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joshbryant

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Check out page 10D of the Denver Post today. There is a terribly written article comparing freeskiing to racing. I'm writing the author a letter.

'who the fuck is trey harrison? he looks like a giant oger fag that is like 'i just drank 8 redbulls, IM TOTALLY WASSTED'!!!!!!!!' - Apestead
 
Youth ski dichotomy keys on tradition versus trendy

By John Meyer

Denver Post Snow Sports Writer

Beaver Creek - To hear the buzz that surrounds the freeskiing movement, you'd think traditional ski racing has become so hopelessly old school it ought to be sponsored by Geritol or Viagra, or maybe a hearing-aid brand. You'd think the U.S. Ski Team soon will have a following as big as curling because, according to the hype, kids in ski towns are hucking and jibbing, not running gates.

In a foul-mouthed interview with Freeskier magazine, to cite one recent example, high school dropout Tanner Hall recently scoffed at the difficulty of World Cup ski racing and predicted its demise. I gather he's some sort of star in the freeskiing movement.

'Sorry to all those racers out there,' Hall said, 'but in 10 years you guys ain't going to be nothing.'

Sorry, Tanner, but youth membership in the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association is up 4 percent over last year, and up 11 percent over three years ago.

NASTAR, the country's largest recreational race program, maintains double-digit growth.

A lot of kids are doing tricks in halfpipes, congratulating themselves on how hip and brave they are, but there are still plenty of racers. They're the ones who understand ski racing was extreme before extreme was extreme.

Hall is upset because Bode Miller makes more endorsement money than he does, so he ridicules ski racing.

'All they do is ski down one icy (expletive deleted) run,' Hall said. 'Put me in a downhill and I might not go as fast as Bode Miller, but I'll make it to the bottom. Put any of those racers in the pipe and they won't even go.'

Daron Rahlves, a free-spirited Californian who finished second in the World Cup downhill standings the past two seasons and has dropped into a halfpipe or two, read Hall's interview and was incensed.

'I'm like, are you kidding me?' Rahlves said Tuesday. 'If somebody is going to be talking smack, they should know what they're talking about. He's not educated, he's young, and he's in his own little freeskier world. It's great to expand the sport.

'It's something the industry must pay attention to, but jumping on rails to me is more like Rollerblades. It's not skiing. These guys are impressive, they work hard to accomplish these tricks, but it's the same thing over and over again.'

The men's World Cup tour is here for four days of racing in super-G, downhill, giant slalom and slalom beginning Thursday. The Birds of Prey downhill course is one of the most challenging in the world, and speeds in Friday's downhill are apt to exceed 80 mph. I don't know Tanner Hall and I've never seen him ski, but I doubt he could finish within 15 seconds of Rahlves on the Birds of Prey - if he made it down. I'd put his chances at 50-50.

'I want to see him strap on some 215s,' said Rahlves, who won the Birds of Prey downhill last year. 'He couldn't even turn those things.'

Ski areas are courting the youth vote by building bigger, gnarlier terrain parks, but the U.S. Ski Team doesn't seem too concerned.

'Kids being in terrain parks, riding rails, riding in a halfpipe, the freeskiing thing, all of that stuff is good because it gets young people involved in winter sports,' said Bill Marolt, chief executive of the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association. 'We want a bigger base of athletes, a bigger pool from which to choose our elite teams. I don't look at it as a negative, I don't look on it as competition, I just look at it as a way to help us market and promote our sport.'

Marolt and David Perry, chief operating officer of the Aspen Skiing Company which hosts the Winter X Games, believe ski racing needs to do a better job of marketing its stars.

'The stars of the X Games are exposed in a lot of new magazines, a lot of new media, ski movies, those kinds of things,' Perry said. 'That's why they're popular. The ski racers aren't getting as much exposure, which is unfortunate, because these are great athletes with compelling stories and they have cross-over appeal.'

Ski racing isn't dying. Miller is making it cool again. My kids can't wait to watch him race this weekend.

'Even though it's gone into a little bit of a dip (in popularity), I believe there's another surge coming,' Perry said. 'Everything is cyclical.'

John Meyer can be reached at 303-820-1616 or jmeyer@denverpost.com .

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-Ben Bormann
 
I cant believe how ignorent this guy is...people that make arguments like this get me so fucking frusterated.

-word-
 
sounds like bush and fox news to me. that's about the most biased piece of trash journalism i've ever read. this dude's just asshurt because *god forbid* somebody said his dear sport of racing wasn't as cool anymore.

-Strode

Only in my sweetest dreams do my streams lack troubled waters, shallow pools full of shallow fools...
 
I wrote him a letter, and he was pretty hurt that I don't think racing is the future. Maybe I'll post his response here.

'who the fuck is trey harrison? he looks like a giant oger fag that is like 'i just drank 8 redbulls, IM TOTALLY WASSTED'!!!!!!!!' - Apestead
 
honestly who wants to stare at another man in spandex? i know i don't. that writer is a douche bag. i bet he takes it up the ass by sum guy name kip who is a hair stylest

Don't take life to serious, you will never get out alive.

-Van Wilder-

Suck my Dick!

-Ron Jeremy-

 
Seriously, It's not like he is thrashing freeskiing, he is just saying that racing isnt going to go to shit. /he just quoted that racer who says T-hall couldnt ski a course very well, but he also quotes tanner saying that they couldnt ski pipe. Who the fuck cares if racers dont like freeskiing. They dont claim that they can do it, when they can't.

'Soooo Sick'

 
i wrote that guy an email expressing my opinions as everyone else should do. if he gets 100's of emails he might change his opinion a lil

Don't take life to serious, you will never get out alive.

-Van Wilder-

Suck my Dick!

-Ron Jeremy-

 
if every one sends mature note he may give us more respect as people but untill he trys the two out for him self and realizes how dificult freesking is then he will never respect or sport and who cares if he does he is some middle age guy in his fortys who is still tryin to get over the fact u can go 'backwards on skis'

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lets see that reply josh. i could care less about his argument, its just a terribly written article regardless. typical modern-day media.

i'm the buffalo soldier, smokin like a dreadlocked rasta. -kweli
 
Dear John Meyer,

My name is Josh Bryant and I own Jibij Pro Shop in Boulder, CO. I am writing in response to your article “Youth ski dichotomy keys on tradition versus trendy�. I was offended by the one sided approach that you took in writing the article. You wrote “youth membership in the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association is up 4 percent over last year, and up 11 percent over three years ago�. According to SIA, the twin tip ski category grew over 662 percent from 2000 to 2003. Carving skis dropped 59 percent in that same time period. The main reason that racing has any growth is that parents are putting their kids into race programs, not because the kids want to be in them.

Daron Rahlves’ comment that “it’s the same thing over and over again� was laughable. What does he think ski racing is? Racing is nothing if not repetitive. We just have to look at snowboarding to see where skiing is headed. Snowboard racing holds the smallest portion of the market, which will be the same for skiing in a few years. If you would like to discuss this further, please give me a call at the number below.

Thanks,

Josh Bryant

'who the fuck is trey harrison? he looks like a giant oger fag that is like 'i just drank 8 redbulls, IM TOTALLY WASSTED'!!!!!!!!' - Apestead
 
This is his response:

What's 'laughable' is a free skier predicting the demise of ski racing.

I suspect free skiing and ski racing will be able to co-exist just fine.

As for being one-sided, what I wrote is a column, which by definition is an

opinion piece. My colleague Scott Willoughby wrote 5 times as many words

extolling the free skiing movement for the Sunday paper about 10 years ago.

I just wanted people to know ski racing isn't dying -- despite what morons

like Tanner Hall think.

I don't care what Hall and other free skiers choose to do for fun, but when

they criticize ski racing I have to point out how wrong they are.

By the way, I take back one thing I wrote. I wrote that Hall couldn't come

within 15 seconds of Rahlves on this course, but the more I think about it,

I don't think he could finish within 45 seconds of Rahlves.

You ought to come up here and watch these guys race at 80 mph. You might

even enjoy it.

'who the fuck is trey harrison? he looks like a giant oger fag that is like 'i just drank 8 redbulls, IM TOTALLY WASSTED'!!!!!!!!' - Apestead
 
that is a damn good letter josh.

meyers response to me was:

What I wrote is a column, which by definition is an opinion piece. That

means stating my opinion, not reporting 'both sides.'

I have no interest in free-riding -- it looks boring to me -- but I wasn't

criticizing it so much as criticizing one of the competitors in the sport

who said some really moronic things about ski racing. It was natural for me

to do this while covering World Cup races involving what I believe to be the

best skiers in the world.

There is no shortage of people in the ski media who will fawn over the

free-skiing movement at the expense of traditional ski disciplines. My own

newspaper was full of such stories less than two weeks ago. I'm just

defending 'old school' amid the onslaught of stories about 'new school.'

Skiing has always been about freedom. Have fun any way you like, but don't

criticize ski racing or try to say Tanner Hall is a better skier than Bode

Miller. That's absurd.

Don't take life to serious, you will never get out alive.

-Van Wilder-

Suck my Dick!

-Ron Jeremy-

 
wow josh props that was a really good rsponse as for the whole 80mph thing the man has obviously never seen tanner hall come haalin into chads gp and then throw a cork seen or chris benchetler hit the humoungus step down at mammoth

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I wrote the guy an e-mail, here it is.

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Mr. Meyer,

Regarding your article in the Denver Post, and the response you gave to Mr.

Bryant, I find it sad that someone of your level of credential could act

such a way. You say you have to point out people who criticize things they

don't know, similar to you and freeskiing? You obviously don't know anything

about freeskiing, let alone where the ski industry is going. You call Tanner

Hall a moron, have you met him, or are you judging him from the one article

you read? That would seem pretty moronic to do such a thing. By the way, the

X Games are coming up this February, guys sailing over 80 foot tables all

while doing something more than pointing their skis downhill, you should

check it out, you might even enjoy it. Thank you for writing about the

freeskiing industry in the newspaper though, the more coverage our sport can

get, the better.

Sincerely,

Evan Finn

--Jibij this.
 
Here is that guys response.

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This is why you people make me so angry. You think all ski racers do is

point their skis down the hill?

You should have been at Beaver Creek today. Bode Miller and Daron Rahlves

finished 1-2, pointing their skis downhill at 73 mph and beating the best in

the world. I want to see anyone in the free skiing movement do that.

And yes, anyone who says what Tanner Hall said in that interview is a moron.

You're right, I know nothing about the free-skiing movement, and judging

from the emails I've gotten about this, I don't want to know anything about

it.

Enjoy skiing any way you want, but stop putting down ski racing. You guys

are the ones who don't know what you're talking about.

--Jibij this.
 
I want to get this guy and Scott Willoughby (whatever with spelling) and take them on the hill. I was in Beaver Creek yesterday. I have been to the world cup. Yea, it's sick to go that fast, but slopestyle is anything but repetitive.

It is only repetitive to the ignorant eye. If you cant tell the difference in what you are watching, you shouldnt be out there in the first place.

I have skied the downhill course on 215cm downhill skis. Oh yea, I mounted them backwards so I could do it switch. I want to see one of the World Cup Racers beat me, or Tanner Hall for that matter down the world cup run, switch.

Face it, ski racing has been the same for over 50 years. Forward, in a tuck, fast, turn around gates. WOOO HOOO.

Lets take this fool out on the hill. Show him some shots of Iannick B on the rails, show some shots of Candide hiting 120+ foot jumps in the French Alps. Then lastly, take him to the world cup course and shut him up. switch.

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

RED TEAM!
 
ok, beating a dead horse here but i didn't get to add this. John Meyer is (as a lot of you probably would have guessed by now) an old fucking fart. He doesn't really ski 'alpine' that much and is mostly a crosscountry skier... need i say more? i will. He's just on the opposite side of our fence and would do anything to get on his knees and suck FIS proverbial dick. OK. that's it. This whole thing is about a month old now and I'm sick and tired of all the bullshit it's caused.... I'm going skiing.

'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

-

Pick up my guitar an play

Just like yesturday

And I'll get on my knees and prayyyy...

We don't get fooled again!' -The Who

 
i figured he was an old fart. i wrote so many letters to him and hes an ass. we should all go to denver post and say hello to him.

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-Jonathan

Jibij Pro Shop

'A little too much hot sauce on that one'
 
Exactly, I mean when I was younger I was gonna race, but didn't cause of two reasons. One was cause the amount of cash needed is ridiculous. The second reason was that its boring. I mean, yes it takes skill, a lot of timing, etc..., but still freeskiing is SO much harder, and a lot more fun. Its like a whole new area to conquer.

But I do think T Hall is a dumbass for saying that.

 
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