Death.

fsscott

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I'm just gonna warn you that if I offend anyone, I'm sorry, I have nothing against anyone.

Tonight I just found out that my friends parents passed away in a car accident. Both of them.

She's in university, and I feel for her like no one else.

I have been putting off making a thread about my thought's on this topic for I've never had the time to rant, or felt the need to, but this has set me off and I need an output.

Have you ever gone to sleep, and woken up, and thought deeply about what you do in those 7 or 8 hours you sleep a night? Have you ever tried to think about why you can't remember anything? Have you ever thought about where you go after death, and questioned every answer to death. I have, or at least for my age I've done my fair share.

I've come to the conclusion that death is nothing more than a dreamless sleep. What some would call darkness, or white. It is something that I call a nothingness that the mind cannot imagine. Because there has to be something there, a color, a shade, something so simple that it would have to be there.

I believed in God and a Heaven for a while, until I asked the question to myself, if God is real, then why would he pick this one planet in this universe to be the over seer of? Which the trillions of galaxies and trillions and trillions of planets, why this one?

This didn't make sense to me, I've known how the Church has been wrong about the Earth not being the center of the Universe, and how they've done things hypocritical to they're own commandments and such, but do not take this part in anger, for it is just my younger mind thinking about all that is knows.

I began thinking about why this book was so special. Why it was still looked at when any evidence of any supernatural happening was long long gone. I am not saying that a Jesus didn't exist, I'm just questioning whether or not what happened was fact or fiction.

What I've come to the conclusion is that Jesus was someone who foresaw what death was, and knew that if people were to come upon this as fact they would be obsessed with it and wouldn't be able to continue with life as easily as they were able to before, so he wrote a book. He wrote a book with rules to live your life, as so you could get the most out of it as possible, all the while not harming anybody elses lives. He gave in depth examples to each of these, stories for us to relate to, so we would not question what was being asked. He gave reasoning that pointed to one part or the other, in a sense creating a errorless program to be run through the human brain.

My first sense of death was a heaven. My next was that you would be able to travel the universe and watch it grow as eternity had it's toll on the universe. Then I came to the conclusion that this was neither sensible nor did it house any proof to it. The brain is merely made up of matter, in which a mind or sense of self would be composed through the happenings of a lifetime. So the only true explanation would have to be one that we could relate to or actually experience for it to be true. So I stopped at a dreamless sleep as truth and as death.

Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone in any way shape or form, these are just my ideas and are free to be criticized by you if you please, I am open to any ideas as I love the thought of heaven, it is a facinating and appeasing one, don't get me wrong!

Thanks for your time NS.

 
i'm so sorry to hear about your friend man, i can't even imagine. and hey rants help sometimes, venting is healthy.
+++vibes to her, best of luck.
 
Don't waste your time thinking about such a black hole of a question, you're alive now. When you're dead you have plenty of time to answer stupid questions, live life to the fullest now.
 
jesus didn't write the bible nor did he have anything to do with it. it was written by other people about jesus.

i can only imagine half the loss that your friend is feeling right now. losing one parent is hard enough.

 
Yes this is true, I've definitely been backing off the question for a while, but a lot of shit's been going on right now and this was it for me.

Funny you say that cause my career path is something along astrophysicist, so staring at black holes will be something I'll be spending a lot of time on haha.

Everything in space seems to amaze me, so I think this might be a good career path :/

Thanks for all the vibes guys, means a lot
 
Well I agree that I don't believe in heaven or anything. But death is just the end imo. there is absolutely nothing not even that nothingness you were talking about. It's just your gone, it's scary to think about when the truth of it really dawns on you, and it's kinda easy to see why people are scared into religion. They need something to grasp. But realistically it's the end there is no legitimate reason to believe otherwise.

Oh and Jesus definately did not write the bible haha
 
that first bit about dreams is pretty mind bottling, i just did my senior thesis on the philosophy of dreams and transformation and shit after chuang tzu's stuff. he's a chinese philosopher that can go pretty deep check him out it you wanna wrap your head around something big and take your mind off death atleast for a bit cause he talks about that too
 
i've never really understood why people are so intimidated by the notion of death or view it as such a monumental event. What lives eventually dies. Millions of things die everyday and millions of things are born. I like the idea of reincarnation because it minimizes the event of death and turns it into a continuum as it blends into life, but im not sure I actually believe it. Well I sort of do, but im not sure i understand my belief in it yet.
I am in no means trying to underscore what your friend must be dealing with because thats awful and best of luck to her.
 
Yea that says a little of what I was trying to get through here, glad I'm not the only one to see it that way!

And with the Jesus bible thing, he got his bros to write it after he died, or someone used him as examples?

I dunno something that makes my story make sense haha
 
charish the times u have no living and dont think about that. the truth is nobody knows what happens when u die. u could just die. nothing else. or you could go to heaven i dunno

but the moral is

spend the time u have now to you best becuase u never know how much time u have left
 
plus vibes to your friend, i could not start to imagine how hard that would be.

on another note, please fill us in in your thread about death threats/
 
Either you go to an afterlife, get reincarnated, or just slip into blackness.

Either way, might as well suck all you can out of life just incase its blackness.
 
Logically speaking, I think Jesus was just a really good magician

I actually proposed this to my religion teacher and shes like well thats a good theory, only thing is how do you explain the resurrection~ I said he like every good magician never gives out his secrets so we'll never know~

But if he was real you have to give him credit for what he taught~ All God stuff aside, they are good principles for peace~

 
the bible, as far as ive been taught wasnt written by just any old people, god picked and pretty much told them what to write in dreams and visions and stuff...but you are right jesus really had nothing to do with writing itas far as i know

+vibes to ur friend man, i really cant imagine what shes going through

and while ur thinking about death i live by this quote and im sorry but i dont know who said it "if you fear death you are not truly living"
 
+vibes for the ones you have lost bro.

the people who wrote the bible (we are talking the new testement here) wrote them all by themselves with out help from each other, the new testement is a collabaration of smaller books and letters,

the people who wrote the bible didnt just make the stuff up, they all got killed for what they wrote and what they belived they were told be jesus after he was reserected that they would be killed for saying the thing that they did, now if it all was some elaborate plot then why would they do that? conspiracys and hoaxs are done for some sort of gain but they were all just killed.

the idea of when you die its just the end, i have not died so really have no idea, but i have felt the love of god and belive that i will be kicking it with him once i am gone.

saying that i am scared as shit of whats going to happen but i know that something great is waiting for me.
 
yo man this has been thought before

im not sharing my thoughts on this cause one day their gonna make me rich but i know the answer to the death question
 
reading that, it got me thinking

what about those who have medically died~ were they actually dead or was it something else

I apparently am one of those people who medically speaking, have died before and it makes me wonder if anvthing happened when I did

 
I have talked to someone who has died before only for like a minitue or two like he was brain dead.

there is a difference between being dead and propally dead (wow that prob makes no sence)

but your soul has to leave your body, god know when its time for you to go and if its not that time he wont take your soul from your body and then your still spiritually alive.

but thats only my thoughts.
 
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