Death

i think that you are going to wake up in heaven never knowing you were ever alive and its going to be a whole new world but without problems
 
Death does not scare me that much for some reason, its just like yeah im going to die, but i wont know it. i actually believe in an afterlife, or heaven, or something, but i dont believe in God.

The thing im really scared about is the end of the world.. it's so weird like i think of what might happen like global climate change and then the world will flood and then third world countries will come over and invade our country but every country will be fighting for the right to be a country but theres water everywhere and u cant tell where is where and while they're still invading and they get this big war going, and then we need to find big boats but people are dying and sinking and floating and some poeple dont know how to swim and they're drowning, and they're all hectic trying to get on big boats and like arks, right, and then all the christians are praying to God yelling , "WHY IS THIS HAPPENING???" and everything right and we're trying to get all our family members together, so is everyone else but theres no phones we cant call our relatives EVERYTHING IS SINKING and im wondering "why is this happening????!!!" and then we're all like DAMN WE SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING, but we couldnt and then al gore and david suzuki and shit come out and they're like "WE TOLD YOU SO" and we're all at their feet, but then a smart person is like "but u said global WARMING, not global climate change," and hes like shit but everything is going on and there's no time for arguing, the presidents and prime ministers and ambassadors dont know what to do they cant broadcast shit on the radio or tv since its all in WATER!!!!!! And we're still going like "oh yeah i knew this is how it was goin down," and we're all secretly expecting this but were too lazy to do anything, and its to horrible cause they got all this cool technology and now its all down the drain and then you stand there for a min on the deck of the transport boat and go like oh mah god this is like the dinosaurs, we are a human race, but then once this flood is over there might be no trace of us humans and all the amazing stuff we did like all our stuff down the drain for future generations, and then somehting else will happen like the sun will explode, and then when will the next race come???? is there no more!!?? IS THERE NO MORE!!!!!!!!!?????????
 
what blows my mind even more is thinking what happens when the world is gone. the sun has a ticking time bomb over it's head just like we do, someday our entire solar sytem as we know it, will be gone
 
i think i'd rather be a brainwashed ultra conservative evangelical than the uber liberal philosophical kid i am. kinda like the matrix you know? i'd rather live a life of inextricable delusion in which i am content than knowing a reality that is somewhat difficult to cope with or even comprehend.
 
Don't laugh at me or anything (and yes death makes me think too, but i think i've learned to accept that it will happen some day, and thats what makes me live more :) )....but I honestly believe we come back, I don't know why but I just have a weird feeling that once we die, we are born again as another person and start over...we just never know it.
 
the energy from your body goes back into the earth and powers everything. just like new trees and plants spring up from a dead tree.
 
i was watching this show and they had a story of a lady that died in a car accident but was revived an hour later.... she said she was talking to like angels or whatever... she said she wanted to stay because there was no pain, no fear, etc.

that is fucking scary tho
 
did you know that your brain releases a chemical called DMT when you die?
you can also extract it from a few plants and smoke it. it makes you hallucinate.
 
i believe something created us. the universe couldn't just magically pop up without an outside source of help. but then who created the thing that created the universe. it is so messed up and hard to comprehend. we are made up of materials that once made up stars, trees, etc. i think when you die that you are recycled. your energy will be reused. maybe a second life or something like that. i don't get why people believe that you just go to heaven or hell and thats that. its just doesn't make sense. also although our life on earth will all end, there has to be other life in the universe. the universe is so huge. we can't be the only life. life is so confusing.
 
I'm not at all religious, but I've pretty much gotten over there being nothing after death. At first it seems terrifying, but when you understand the insignificance of the human race and earth and basically everything around you, it doesnt really matter, just make sure you live your life doing what you want to do, and having the most fun with every possible situation. Also, this understanding allows the past to be more easily forgotten, so that you don't dwell on your big mistakes, because in reality it really really doesn't matter.
 
When I was younger 6-7 I always thought about this stuff and it freaked me out even though i did believe in god then but i didn't really believe in heaven or hell. Nowadays Ive been thinking about it lately to and it still scares the crap out of me. I still don't believe in a Christian god but rather a god that is energy and all the matter in the universe. I know once I grasp the concept of death and no more nothing, life will be much more pleasant and easier for me but I cant just get over the fact that it will be like what it was before you were born, nothing, and it will last FOREVER. I guess I have to accept that it happens to all organisms in the world and its natural and theres nothing you can do about it. All the energy and matter in you gets recycled back into the earth for new organisms to use. Its the circle I life and you just have to accept it.
 
i would love to be alive for the end of the world. It would be like well at least you got to know how it ended. The world is not going to last forever. Doesnt it bother you that most of us right now are gonna die when we basically know nothing compared to what people are gonna know in the future?

like we dont even know anything about the universe. All the big questions are unanswered. We dont even know where we came from or if the universe goes on forever or if there are other universes ...

assuming the human race could last another million years, do you know how much more we will know by then?
 
The thing people dont realize is that our lives on earth are worth nothing. There is no meaning to life. Living, society, rules, government, and the basic structures of our everyday existance are completely meaningless. Also how are we to not know that the life we are living as we are is not an afterlife. Who the fuck made up the belief that we die, go to heaven, and are able to look down on our family, and friends. To the creator of this thread, you are scared of dying because you cannot imagine nothingness. Maybe you are in an afterlife, and along with experiencing the nothingness of your previous existence (which of course you dont pay any mind to because your too caught up in the life your living as a human), you are experiencing your current existence and perceiving this as your only life.

If that blows your mind, think about some of this shit. Image everything you know. Imagine your house, your school, your family and friends. Imagine the towns surrounding yours, and imagine as far as you've driven from your home town. Imagine a map, or imagine the globe. Imagine the world and the billions of people living on it, each with their own identities, own lives, and own problems. Now imagine that all of this was created solely by your brain. What if you were the only person in the world and your brain came up with EVERYTHING YOU KNOW. No one is real. Nothing is real. Only you are real, and you created everything. This theory would contradict itself if i didnt make a point to explain that if you, the one person who created the world and everything in it, then you would have had to create yourself. In saying this, i mean what if you are God?
 
Your first argument is wrong. There obviously is a meaning to life. It can only happen in the right conditions and earth has that, and the purpose of it is to be born, mate, have offspring, and die, or in other words try to sustain and flourish your population. Humans have evolved and have found new and easier ways to do this by making society's, gov'ts languages, etc. Another reason why our lives our worth something is because we effect all other life forms on earth and other life forms effects us, or there would be no life. Like the Gaia Hypothesis states: Life manipulates the environment for the maintenance of life.
 
your wrong

when you die you dont go into nothingness

right now we are part of the nothingness

if you try to find out a unique thing that seperates a living thing from a giant complex chemical reaction you will find nothing. We might not even be alive to begin with.
 
but the thing is, a large portion of us and our body, atomicly speaking, is released and replaced very many times. a large portion of the water inside of you is new to you within the last couple weeks, so although our bodies will serve other purposes when we die, it is rather insignificant, everytime you breath, piss, or take a dump, your are doing the equivilent of what this idea says you do when you die. I am going to talk about my idea of the afterlife later, but I gotta go right now.
 
It doesn't matter to me because no matter what we learn about death, it will not effect the outcome. It doesn't matter if you rot in the ground, go to Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, get reincarnated, or whatever you believe in because that does not change the fact that you're still going to die.
 
yeah that theory of yours is what ive been thinking about for a long time. what if everyone is just something your mind has made up? there are historical accounts of events and human existance for thousands of years, but you've never witnessed it because you werent even alive. you didn't even witness you're own birth. everything can just be made up by your mind that you were born, and so and so. in fact you contradicting me that im a dumbass and what im saying is bullshit, can just be my mind denying the truth and making shit up. you could be the only real person, while everyone is made up and made out of nothing. you could be God's little test subject, while the whole world is one big fake simulation.
 
i like to think that the mind goes on forever unknowingly unaware of death building knowledge and understanding everything you've ever wanted to know.
 
yeah I used to think about that a lot, basically just being what you were before you were born.. non-existant.

gotta hope theres an afterlife, i'll find out when I get there i guess.
 
i like the before birth arguement too. now i can say "i have already experienced nonexistence."
 
I think that the whole reincarnation deal is pretty legit, but what if once we die we get downgraded to kind of mosquitos or something, just to be swatted by people just like ourselves,

Does anyone think this could be the sort of punishment or reward god or whoever gives?

also great thread, I always find myself thinking about this in english, for some reason (perhaps because i feel like i am about to die??)
 
my philosophy prof held a discussion with our class about what we though death was like and he asked how many of us had been put under general anesthetics. i had so i asked what it had to do with. and he said that that is what he believes death is like: one minute you are fully aware of whats happening and then there is nothing. except in the case of general anesthetics you wake up in a totally different place but it feels like seconds later...

i thought that was an interesting theory but it makes perfectly logical sense
 
see, you fear that now, but when youre dead, youre not gaonna give a shit. just straight chillin in the ground doin nothin.
 
yeah dude seriously, like we all die, and thats messed up to think about alone

BUT THINK ABOUT WHEN THE SUN EXPLODES, what the fuck is going to happen....just NOTHING left, nothing, there wont be anything, and that is really really weird, but then you could claim that in glaxays far far away they use light sabers and the force and theyr having a great time
 
yeah its hard to grasp but what ever, i really cant convince myself to believe in religon cus its retarded. Just make sure you make everyday worth it, if it makes you feel any beter when you die your brain is still alive for a lil bit so maybe you can just dream of a heaven or somthing
 
it's interesting that some people have mentioned how pointless and valueless our lives our. I'm not hopeful about going anywhere after death, but I rejoice in the fact that life is an incredible beautiful opportunity...and I'm enjoying it while it lasts.
 
by the time the sun explodes we'll be on a different planet, possibly a completely different galaxy
 
you guys are all stupid... why would you NOT care if you just became.. nothing?

there would be no more consciousness....no more.. nothing. and for those of you saying we will find out when we get there... what if you DONT get there?

wow, good thing im a scientific Christian. it explains everything, seriously.

there is an afterlife BTW you cant get a universe from nothing. and dont ask a stupid question like "where did god come from then...?" its all really an endless line of paralell universes... i got curious about "string theory" (google it) and it really connects with everything i believe in... its nice to be 90% sure you know... lol

hope that made sense
 
very true, however i was not just talking about my body decomposing. i believe that the energy in my body, or my "spirit' if you will, will go on to power everything. kind of like light energy from the sun. i guess yo ucould call it spiritual energy? maybe this makes no sense to you. im having a hard time explaining it.

as for the person(s) who said our lives are meaningless: I disagree with that. every decision you make is going to make an impact on something. big or small, it doesnt matter. you are going to be an example for everyone who comes after you. it may not make a noticeable difference but when millions of people make the same decision over time, that is going to shape how people think and act. Imagine, for example if the nazis had won the war. we would not see the holocaust of the jews as a bad thing. we would truly believe that the arian race is supreme and that it was a good thing to get rid of all those people. because humans have such an impact on the earth the little decisions are eventually going to make a big difference. our earth is part of a solar system/galaxy which is part of a much bigger unit, the universe. a combination of many galaxies. and who's to say there is just one type of universe, it can go on and on in that direction. in the same way it could go on and on in the opposite direction. for all we know, to some creature or being, life form, something (i cant find the right word), an atom in our skin could be their whole galaxy. anyway im just rambling on.

what really makes me mad is that some people can be so sure that what they believe is the truth. to me it is ignorant to say "I know god lives". the thought that there could be a god who is constantly watching over everyone, listening to prayers, and causing miracles, makes no sense in my mind. No one really KNOWS. they can believe, but how can you really say I KNOW? I can see how people can believe, or need to believe this. But everybody needs to have their own opinion. I guess this is such a big deal to me because of my background. growing up in utah....enough said. anyways i dont know wher eim going with this so i'll just stop now.
 
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