I'll have to check out both offerings from on3p, but they are hard to find for demos, etc. The most redeeming quality about the JJ for me is, that although a big ski, it does not feel hefty, nor does it ski like a bruiser. Weight is one of my #1 reasons for posting this thread. The TST is almost what I want, but won't offer me the loose tail. The Solly rocker2 108 weighed quite a bit in the hands today at the shop (I have to admit that might be unfounded). On3p offers a tour build spec which would for sure lighten up the ski, so I'll have to find out when I can try a pair.