Dean cummings charged with murder
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ReturnToMonkey
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Damn. Do yall think this was really self defense or actually murder like police say?
GayWolf420
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14115067:ConesForBreakfast said:
according to police, there werent any really signs of struggle or anything like that so it sounds like he maybe grabbed his rifle to intimidate the guy over a disagreement and shit went bad.
Cheech_Sander
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This is so sad. Sad for the victim whose life was taken away. Sad for Dean who hasn't got the mental health help he needed. He was committed to an asylum last winter but apparently it wasn't enough. Dean gave me the best ski day of my life via H20 heli guides. I hope justice is served and that he can heal but I'm not hopeful.
MilkPlanet
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I got mixed feelings about this. I know it's America, but if you're going to murder someone and claim it was self defense, I wouldn't recommend shooting them with a semi-auto? Regardless, if he's innocent and it really was self defense, I really hope he isn't found guilty.
Saw powders post on facebook. Crazy that everyone is jumping in assuming he's guaranteed to be innocent. I mean, he said it was self defense, so obviously it is.
Idk what happened but gnarly situation for sure.
Idk what happened but gnarly situation for sure.
SofaKingSick
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damn that's crazy. i won't take a position at all but from that one article, he did not behave in a smart way following the death
mcswizzle
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https://youtu.be/n_24JzUbM4Y
Dude has falling off for a while by the sound of it.
Dude has falling off for a while by the sound of it.
MilkPlanet
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14115140:skithemidwesttt said:
My point is that if you murder someone and claim it's self defense, your chances of being charged with murder increase exponentially if you use a weapon made for killing. If he's innocent, that's another thing. If he's guilty, he could've used a lightweight handgun.
270on420out
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14115178:elliotfitzgerald said:
It really has nothing to do with the weapon. The legal parameters for self-defense are actually fairly slim regardless of what weapons are used, even if you are completely unarmed.
SavageBiff
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I don’t think it matters what was used
If I’m in need of true, “self defense” , if there’s a knife, a pistol, a rocket launcher on the table .... attackers getting hit with a rocket and ima b like ya self defense all the way , I’m not chancing my well being, my survival on a maybe
Hope Dean gets help, hope truth prevails
Vibes for the victims family , life can be soooo fing dark
**This post was edited on Mar 6th 2020 at 4:46:02pm
If I’m in need of true, “self defense” , if there’s a knife, a pistol, a rocket launcher on the table .... attackers getting hit with a rocket and ima b like ya self defense all the way , I’m not chancing my well being, my survival on a maybe
14115119:elliotfitzgerald said:
Hope Dean gets help, hope truth prevails
Vibes for the victims family , life can be soooo fing dark
**This post was edited on Mar 6th 2020 at 4:46:02pm
I wonder how junkies get heroin with it being illegal and all.... and we didn’t have to register firearms in Vermont until like two years ago... lots of places are the same... try to take something that doesn’t exist or something that I had before mental problems. That’s why guns laws don’t always work
14115210:pinkcamo1000 said:
ASSholebomber22
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14115178:elliotfitzgerald said:
My dick's a weapon cuz I straight up murder the pussy haha
Someone date me please
sorry. Lemme break it down a little more and try to explain, I totally think he shouldn’t of had it but there are tons of legal reasons he had it.
You don’t know when he got the gun... could of been before mental health problem.... the red flag laws (the cops taking your guns because of mental health or violence) only work if your weapons are registered. If they aren’t registered no one knows you own the guns. A lot of states didn’t require registration until the last five years or unless you purchased the gun from a ffl dealer at a gun shop.
so what I’m saying is that he could of owned an unregistered gun which is not illegal in a lot of states, the red flag laws also may not of been enacted when he had problems before, or many other reason he had the gun from a totally legit stand point should he of had it, probably not, but that’s the fine line we walk... do you wanna be a nark for turning in your boy cause he’s dangerous to himself or just leave it be and try not to worry about it
You don’t know when he got the gun... could of been before mental health problem.... the red flag laws (the cops taking your guns because of mental health or violence) only work if your weapons are registered. If they aren’t registered no one knows you own the guns. A lot of states didn’t require registration until the last five years or unless you purchased the gun from a ffl dealer at a gun shop.
so what I’m saying is that he could of owned an unregistered gun which is not illegal in a lot of states, the red flag laws also may not of been enacted when he had problems before, or many other reason he had the gun from a totally legit stand point should he of had it, probably not, but that’s the fine line we walk... do you wanna be a nark for turning in your boy cause he’s dangerous to himself or just leave it be and try not to worry about it
14115231:pinkcamo1000 said:
SavageBiff
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I never hit a bitch. I’ll beat that pussy up tho.
14115225:Biffbarf said:
blazeonyia
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Everyone please set aside your preconceived notions on guilt and innocence and look at the larger issues here:
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)?? Have any of you ever dealt with Indian Reservation cops? They will bury it immediately unless the crime in question deals with a white person. Also these people are not exactly the FBI.. Just saying, don't throw away a pow legend because he shot a possible meth addict.
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)?? Have any of you ever dealt with Indian Reservation cops? They will bury it immediately unless the crime in question deals with a white person. Also these people are not exactly the FBI.. Just saying, don't throw away a pow legend because he shot a possible meth addict.
ASSholebomber22
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14115275:blazeonyia said:
Impossible to speculate what really went down but this may be a good point. I've heard horror stories of reservation and native corruption.
WoFIowz
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This is wild. Yeah the news article spells no claim for self defense out pretty clearly. Skeptical when reservation cops involved but regardless if there was no struggle or material proof of injury and if the guy had no weapon, he's got no defense. Self defense laws are tricky, but in many states the blame is on the person defending themselves to prove that fact. If you're gonna use a gun for self defense 1) your life must be in imminent danger 2) unless your state has stand your ground laws, you must retreat unless in your home 3) you're probably gonna be shooting to kill. It also matters huge how you respond after the incident. Sounds like this guy fucked up big time
The weapon is irrelevant however in today's political age, this can matter for perception and bias.
Also side note, very funny to hear people/news talk about rifles like they know anything
The weapon is irrelevant however in today's political age, this can matter for perception and bias.
Also side note, very funny to hear people/news talk about rifles like they know anything
dolanslebensraum
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>backcountry skier
if TGR is the only place i felt accepted id want to kill someone too.
if TGR is the only place i felt accepted id want to kill someone too.
DesertStix
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Sounds like no one here actually knows the laws in New Mexico
SavageBiff
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If he is not in fact guilty....
Then hopefully they shoot for the moon with charges, lose focus and blow the whole damn thing
Then hopefully they shoot for the moon with charges, lose focus and blow the whole damn thing
14115356:B.Gillis said:
14115114:Cheech_Sander said:
the american justice system doesnt heal unfortunately
14115405:TRVP_ANGEL said:
They're called correctional facilities, so how could they not correct the problem? If you get arrested and end up with one you're bound to come out a better person.
DesertStix
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Honestly sounds like he handled this terribly. New Mexico is a stand your ground state so as fucked up as it is all you need to do is give a verbal warning that you feel unsafe and if the person doesn’t physically retreat, like walk away from you, you’re within your rights to shoot them. Look how George Zimmerman got away with shooting a teenager in Florida with the same law.
Instead of explaining a scenario where this could have occurred, he told some seemingly baseless story about the guy throwing chemicals on his face (?) and there was zero evidence of that when cops showed up.
Instead of explaining a scenario where this could have occurred, he told some seemingly baseless story about the guy throwing chemicals on his face (?) and there was zero evidence of that when cops showed up.
DentCancan
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Yeah... New Mexico is an extremely violent place. Beautiful country and great skiing but everyone gets murdered or involved in this kind of drama. It almost doesn’t even matter who is guilty or not- violence is just a way of life in Nuevo. That’s why I left. Dean should have never gone back.
Not true... I will say this. I’ve been knowing Dean since he first came to Alaska in 1991, I helped him with some small matters when he was setting up his company. We were both business owners here in Valdez and I can only say that some of the things he speaks to in his YouTube channel are true because they have happened and are happening to me right now. The last time Dean and I spoke face to face he had his son with him and they were out filling pot holes for local businesses who had hired him to do so. I was cleaning up at the end of our property. He was not only fine at the time but thriving, we have been speaking by phone at least 1-3 times a week when he left Alaska and a couple of days before this incident, I’ve been concerned for his safety as he has been for mine. There is something happening here and it’s not good, that I can attest to, because I to have been poisoned and have had other things happen to me and I’m not mentally ill. I pray for Dean and hope that the truth in this matter will come to light, I pray for his family as this must be horrific for his children. I would hope that people let this go the course before passing judgement on my friend because I believe that he’d afford me the same.
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dolanslebensraum
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Switzerland is even more gun crazy than the us, and their murder rate per capita is orders of magnitude less than the rate in the us. America has alot of mental illness because of the migrators mindset. People who chose to uproot from europe and sail to america probably have tangeable genetic differences from europeans who stayed put.
mental health needs more attention.
**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2020 at 4:18:30am
mental health needs more attention.
**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2020 at 4:18:30am
SavageBiff
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14118442:DolanReloaded said:
I’m not gonna agree with the “migrators” part...
Ive never seen a study, and in my experience, foreigners seem to be more.... “evolved” mentally and emotionally than Americans
Mental illness in America is extremely high and rarely treated properly.
GrandThings
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14118442:DolanReloaded said:
If you're ever wondering why people on this website fucking hate you, it's because you post idiotic shit like this. Jesus fucking Christ please either go to back school or focus your fucking account.
dolanslebensraum
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14118475:GrandThings said:
Why you rustled? if you dont think genetics has a non-negligible effect on whether or not a european either by himself or with his family chooses to migrate to a far distant land in search of opportunity, youre pretty fucking stupid and intellectually talentless.
if you had any intellectual talent youd understand that just because something isnt written about in your monthly issue of scientific american doesnt mean it must be false or misguided.
You think being an intellectual is a participation trophy, and that all you have to do to walk around like youre the shit intellectually is read and regurgitate ideas that you could never have discovered on your own.
oh and more ppl here like me than they do a shiteating fake intellectual like yourself.
but none of the books or articles youve read have talked about how much of a fatherfucking loser you are so keep that chin up einstein.
your mommy must be proud of her little scientist boy...
**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2020 at 10:28:59am
animator
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14118442:DolanReloaded said:
I don’t know where you got your information but Switzerland is not “gun crazy.” I lived there for 10 years and I’m a citizen. Any person who is either Swiss, or wishes to obtain citizenship (e.g. a Swiss passport), is obliged to complete 9 months of military service. The reason that data suggests there are a lot of guns per capita is because you are given a weapon for the duration of your service. It is nothing like the United States where you can walk in to a store and buy guns and ammunition as long as you’re over 18. It’s a relatively small country and given that many people complete the military service, there is a high number of guns per person. We’re not “gun crazy” at all.