Damn you, thin edged skis.

ButteredToast.

ButteredToast.

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Srsly. Around 2 days on rails with my Atomic Patents and I already have like 8 edge cracks (there are more, I just stopped counting)

I hate thin edges. Get yo' shit together, Atomic. It's a park ski and should hold up on rails. My Bluehouse MR's held up 3 seasons on MOSTLY rails and only had like 2 edge cracks on each edge and they barely started pulling out. They delammed before my edges started to pull out.

Definitely a poorly spent $500. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, ATOMIC?!
 
All I heard was "blah blah my park skis are breaking blah blah im a fucking idiot" skis break kid.
 
Park skis break. Edge thickness does not have much to do with it. Bluehouse is one of the least legitimate ski manufactures.
 
capped or sidewall
always noticed sidewall edges chip often
my foils, on the other hand, are still goin strong
 
I'd have to disagree.. i believe the egde thickness does make a difference. I believe the thicker the longer they last.

and to have skis break in that short of time sucks nuts.

and idk why you'd say bluehouse is least legit..? what the hell does that mean? apperently they're better than atomic.
 
yea i agree. i ride the suspects that have an average to thin edge and they crack like its their job. Get armada those things last
 
oh my god are you fucking retarded? ive been skiing for a long time, its not like ive never had a pair of skis break on me. edges crack and skis delam, im aware of that, im not some newbie.

all im saying is im disappointed in how fast my edges seem to be falling apart after only TWO days of rail skiing on a ski from a (supposedly) legit company. That didnt happen with my bluehouses. my bluehouses lasted me a while, but at this rate im worried that these skis wont last long.

kill yourself.
 
Ski tech here. Hes actually somewhat right nearly all ski companies use a 1 degree base bevel and a 1 degree side bevel however atomic is the only company that uses a 1 degree base bevel and a 3 degree side bevel. this makes the edges on their race skis mad sharp however the edge is slightly thinnner and sharper making it more vunerable to chipping. however any park rider hitting metal rails should have their edges detuned underfoot at least a little bit. IF they were detuned for a park rider the edge bevel wont matter and theyll be like any other ski.
 
its not only the size of the edge material it is also the type of metal that is used. like armada and liberty for example use heat treated edges and they are really durable
 
ive got the suspects and the edge armor isnt much help. it doesnt prevent the edge from cracking. its suppose to hold the edge in once it cracks but it doesnt do to good up a job. dont get me wrong salomon makes good skis, there just the most durable ones
 
word and dont just use a stone use a file with no guide and round them off. Gummi stones dont do nearly enough.
 
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling...

Edge cracks aren't cosmetic like topsheet chips are; they effect the performance of the ski (very slightly, but they still do) and make it significantly more prone to further damage.
 
You try to make comments in other threads about "kids these days" etc... and you still make complete ignorant comments like this.
How is your karma so high? I don't get it :/
And that does suck man, cracked edges after a couple of days stinks.
 
I just hate when kids bitch about their skis break like they're suppose to be indestructible.
 
if you even looked into this kid at all you would've seen that he made a thread as soon as he got the skis saying that the edges looked really thin and prone to damage.... this kid is making a fair complaint here. He accepts that park skis are disposable, but he isn't happy with how weak they are
 
Patents aren't meant for rails, they're a kicker ski. Hence the thin edges, it saves weight.
 
to answer that question, I wanted a mid-fat park ski. The patent is 95 underfoot, and symmetrical, which is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

There's no specification or any kind of detail on Atomics website that tells you what their edges are like. At least none that I saw when I looked around. I mean it's labeled as a "park" ski... how bad could it be, right?

And to BamBam, some ski tech guy posted above that Atomic uses a 1 degree base bevel and a 3 degree side bevel. I'm pretty sure that's what they use on the Punx as well, so their edges are thin as well. How much weight could a thin edge like that possibly save?
 
I seriously doubt that Atomic would use those edge angles on their park skis. And I'm assuming you bought these online? Go to a shop next time so you can actually see the ski.

That does suck though, that many edge cracks in two days is ridiculous.
 
Definitely this. Third season on my chronics, still only 2 edge cracks. Thin edges should not be on a park ski. I always lol when a company says "for decreased weight" I mean come on, they are edges, they don't weigh that much.
 
Exactly what I am talking about. You aren't going to save much weight by using thinner edges.....
 
Its a valid way to decrease weight. Because we're using a thicker edge we also have to use a thicker base material, and millimeter differences stack up and weigh in.
 
2005 elan m2 twins,they are 155's and weigh the same as 177 afterbangs,the top layer is made from the shittiest plastic i have ever seen and its falling off,on one of them the edge is like 40% gone,they are stiff like a 2x4 and the sidewalls are completely destroyed and all of this is only from one season of riding.
 
2012 atomics have a harder are thicker edge to compensate for this. kinda a common happening, but the bevel will make a huge difference, if it catches, its more likely to crack.
 
I agree it does save weight, but I am not convinced that this is why manufacturers pick thinner edges for certain models....The most likely motivation is that it saves money. Less material, easier to make and manipulatse and easier to get from suppliers. The weight savings is barely noticable when skiing, but the cash saving is obvious especially when you are selling thousands of skis.
 
Probably talking like $5 or $10 total in savings per ski, but yeah, cost is an added factor. Dont discount the weight though, thinner edge means you have to use thinner bases, and thats where you really drop weight.
 
but if you're saving $5 per ski, and producing 10,000 pairs (20,000 skis), that's saving $100k. or $50k if you meant $5/pair. that's monumental, even to a large company like atomic.
 
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