Custom vs. Trim to Fit Footbeds.

Just curious in what everyone uses. I'm trying to convince my shop to start doing custom footbeds. I havent used them personally but curious on peoples thoughts.
 
I have custom heat molded beds for high arches

they helped a lot but there’s still always discomfort , pain after four hours , can’t remember wtf I paid $50/$150 ??‍♂️?? Them

one thing .... the shitty boot fitter told me to curl my toes up while they were being molded I think this was a mistake when I look at how my foot moves etc my toes are not curled up while skiing dude was a real dumbass
 
I use the sidas 3 feet winter footbeds (off the shelf, trim to fit). The low arch model fits me pretty well and I definitely notice an increase in response compared to stock footbeds.

I just don’t feel the need to shell out for a custom one at this point.
 
14054334:SavageBiff said:
I have custom heat molded beds for high arches

they helped a lot but there’s still always discomfort , pain after four hours , can’t remember wtf I paid $50/$150 ??‍♂️?? Them

one thing .... the shitty boot fitter told me to curl my toes up while they were being molded I think this was a mistake when I look at how my foot moves etc my toes are not curled up while skiing dude was a real dumbass

As a bootfitter that was a dumbass move
 
i have both and use my custom heat molded ones. If you go the off the shelf trim to fit do NOT get one with an arch support higher than your actual foot. It is meant to support your current arch not fix anything. When buying new boots at a LSS ask them about custom footbeds and work a discount. 9 times out of 10 they will knock something off because you are buying boots. if you buy a whole ski package, see if they'll throw them in for free. it just might work. customs run around $100 and can go up from there depending on the shop and brand.
 
I bought Patriot footbeds and their straps and it solved all the problems I had with my boots. Highly recommend. Their straps are perfect for full tilts because one strap goes around the liner and the other one goes over the tongue. But as far as footbeds go they are by far the best I have owned. 10/10 would recommend
 
14054428:CabbyArrant said:
As a bootfitter that was a dumbass move

Agreed

i returned a pair of boots to this place that I only got half a day of use out of I bought before I knew anything at all did some research and came into their shop hot as hell

when they open back up in November they’re gonna give me footbeds that ima get molded elsewhere
 
14054539:SavageBiff said:
Agreed

i returned a pair of boots to this place that I only got half a day of use out of I bought before I knew anything at all did some research and came into their shop hot as hell

when they open back up in November they’re gonna give me footbeds that ima get molded elsewhere

Also were you standing or sitting when they were molded. Unrelated but I've been trying to get my shop to become a sidas dealer for awhile but they are really resistant. My shop sells a few cheap trim to fits and some superfeet custom insoles but I'm not about to put anything in my boots that wasn't made to be in a ski boot. I plan on getting a pair molded at another shop and documenting the process to pitch to my shop.
 
I was standing , toes curled up which I was against but decided to trust the derp

they did make a drastic improvement I mean it and could’ve been better I bet

Because when I look at what my foot structure does when I curl the toes up , it increases my arch and shortens the distance from toe pad to heel minimally but enough that I’m sure it’s not proper

mill update when I get the same footbeds same shop no toe curl mid October

also gonna learn about the liner in the Rossi track 130 I would like something more performance plus comfort

My foot structure

On the big toe side hell of an arch

pinky toe side little arch

104.25 (close approx) last

basically a u shape from toe to heel

high instep but medium volume I’d say

small ankle medium and high girl calf

right foot slightly bigger as was run over by 14000 lb excavator rubber track thank god

bulk of pain is in arch

big toe metatarsal between toe and ankle

shin

jumps increase pain exponentially like holy fuck not on landing but I can tell if I spent a day dropping cliffs vs racing
 
14054557:SavageBiff said:
I was standing , toes curled up which I was against but decided to trust the derp

they did make a drastic improvement I mean it and could’ve been better I bet

Because when I look at what my foot structure does when I curl the toes up , it increases my arch and shortens the distance from toe pad to heel minimally but enough that I’m sure it’s not proper

mill update when I get the same footbeds same shop no toe curl mid October

also gonna learn about the liner in the Rossi track 130 I would like something more performance plus comfort

My foot structure

On the big toe side hell of an arch

pinky toe side little arch

104.25 (close approx) last

basically a u shape from toe to heel

high instep but medium volume I’d say

small ankle medium and high girl calf

right foot slightly bigger as was run over by 14000 lb excavator rubber track thank god

bulk of pain is in arch

big toe metatarsal between toe and ankle

shin

jumps increase pain exponentially like holy fuck not on landing but I can tell if I spent a day dropping cliffs vs racing

There's quite a bit of consternation about how to fit footbeds to arches. A good fitter however will never do anything to your arches fully weighted as this will cause your arch to deform and in some cases the ankle will roll in and arch will flatten(pronation). Your foot bends should be fitted with your foot semi-weighted or unweighted. I cant say the toe curl really did that much unless you had them curled through the entire molding where I've heard some people like to do that. Not a great idea. Needless to say you were fitted by a moron...
 
Stay away from Willis of Pittsburgh

ill get my next ones done in Killy when I make a ne trip should be able to find a good boot fitter up there
 
14054341:OhJay said:
I use the sidas 3 feet winter footbeds (off the shelf, trim to fit). The low arch model fits me pretty well and I definitely notice an increase in response compared to stock footbeds.

I just don’t feel the need to shell out for a custom one at this point.

I have them in my own boots and love them. I've been trying to get my shop to carry sidas because even their trim to fits are better than what we carry. Let alone the custom stuff.
 
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