Custom made skis

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I'm gunna be starting up a very small ski company soon called EC Skis and I was just wondering what you would want the skis to be (dimensions, material, etc) and how much you would be willing to pay for a custom built skis to your speculations.

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Something 85-90 underfoot, sidewall, true twin (because that's where people mount twins anyway, may as well be sidecut center too), moderate flex, 70/30 camber/rocker.

I've wondered about a ski with a partial hemp and bamboo construction. It's flex and dampening properties are pretty well known in the longboarding world and it could be something unique to experiment with.
 
13147503:yorick said:
Something 85-90 underfoot, sidewall, true twin (because that's where people mount twins anyway, may as well be sidecut center too), moderate flex, 70/30 camber/rocker.

I've wondered about a ski with a partial hemp and bamboo construction. It's flex and dampening properties are pretty well known in the longboarding world and it could be something unique to experiment with.
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Ok thanks!
 
new name, some sort of vision statement, etc.

that'd be a start. or you can just only make them for yourself because there's already too many random ass brands that aren't going anywhere.
 
If you made a ski with a five dimensional ski similar in shape to the alpha x (but symmetrical) with a bamboo core, dura surf 4000 series bases, 2.5 mm edges I would buy them for 450$....
 
What does EC stand for? Where are you based? What kind of skier are you looking to reach?

You have to figure out some kind of business plan/model before asking for input, if you just get input from tons of people in different places who like different kinds of skiing, you'll never find a niche in the market
 
There is a company named Community skis, and they make fully costum skis for $450. You may want to stick in that price range to get costumers
 
13148609:Watts said:
What does EC stand for? Where are you based? What kind of skier are you looking to reach?

You have to figure out some kind of business plan/model before asking for input, if you just get input from tons of people in different places who like different kinds of skiing, you'll never find a niche in the market
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EC stands for East Coast. We are based in Southern New Hampshire. We are trying to get into the freestyle and powder/backcountry business. We are almost done with the press and have our first ski planned out which is about 125-95-125 and will be at the starting size of 178 because i am going to be messing around with material combinations until we find the best one. We are starting off by using a 4001 grade ptex, a Maple core that runs through the entire ski, tip to tail, 22 oz triaxial fiber, we are yet to figure out the other materials. We want the public to know that unlike most skis companies these days, everything is done by hand instead of using big fancy machines. We have put over 30 hours into building the ski press and molds and will continue to put hours into the skis.
 
13148337:shreddenator said:
If you made a ski with a five dimensional ski similar in shape to the alpha x (but symmetrical) with a bamboo core, dura surf 4000 series bases, 2.5 mm edges I would buy them for 450$....
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All of our parks skis will be 100% symmetrical
 
your first step in this process should be producing several skis. It always ends up being a much more difficult process than what people believe. Next step would be to test these skis on the slopes, let some friends try them out and get some feedback. Step 3 is build on the feedback and improve your skis until you reach a product that is actually marketable. Take your time, everyone would rather see a well thought out and designed product than a first ski out of the press.
 
13149222:SkiJunkyJ said:
EC stands for East Coast. We are based in Southern New Hampshire. We are trying to get into the freestyle and powder/backcountry business. We are almost done with the press and have our first ski planned out which is about 125-95-125 and will be at the starting size of 178 because i am going to be messing around with material combinations until we find the best one. We are starting off by using a 4001 grade ptex, a Maple core that runs through the entire ski, tip to tail, 22 oz triaxial fiber, we are yet to figure out the other materials. We want the public to know that unlike most skis companies these days, everything is done by hand instead of using big fancy machines. We have put over 30 hours into building the ski press and molds and will continue to put hours into the skis.
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^ that sounds like a decent ski to start out with. on that particular ski i would say about 25-30 cm of rocker in both tip and tail. for what i like to do i would prefer the ski you just described and maybe two others. soft to medium stiffness in the nose, stiff underfoot, medium stiff on the tails.

the second would be like all mtn pow- freestyle . so dimensions like 135-118-133. something thats wide enough for the pow yet still can go all over. definately a 4000 series base, 35-40cm of rocker in the tip, and 30 35cm in the tail. maybe a 28 meter turn radius? medium flex in the nose, stiff underfoot, medium stiff tail. and design for the mounting point to be around -3 or so. -just some of my ideas

the third would be a powder ski. dimensions 150-127-145. maybe 50-60 cm of rocker in tip, 35cm in tail? medium flex in nose, stiff in waist, medium stiff in the tail for some stability on cliff drops. turn radius- 29meters. so a ski with quite a bit of rocker but still has some camber underfoot for stabilty on crud/packed snow. mounting point -5 or so?
 
13149222:SkiJunkyJ said:
We want the public to know that unlike most skis companies these days, everything is done by hand instead of using big fancy machines.
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This always gets me. Aren't all skis hand made, just machine assisted? Clearly you aren't "hand clamping them" and you aren't grinding them down by hand with a file, that would be silly, time consuming, and produce a worse result in all likelihood.
 
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^ that sounds like a decent ski to start out with. on that particular ski i would say about 25-30 cm of rocker in both tip and tail. for what i like to do i would prefer the ski you just described and maybe two others. soft to medium stiffness in the nose, stiff underfoot, medium stiff on the tails.

the second would be like all mtn pow- freestyle . so dimensions like 135-118-133. something thats wide enough for the pow yet still can go all over. definately a 4000 series base, 35-40cm of rocker in the tip, and 30 35cm in the tail. maybe a 28 meter turn radius? medium flex in the nose, stiff underfoot, medium stiff tail. and design for the mounting point to be around -3 or so. -just some of my ideas

the third would be a powder ski. dimensions 150-127-145. maybe 50-60 cm of rocker in tip, 35cm in tail? medium flex in nose, stiff in waist, medium stiff in the tail for some stability on cliff drops. turn radius- 29meters. so a ski with quite a bit of rocker but still has some camber underfoot for stabilty on crud/packed snow. mounting point -5 or so?
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I will be horizontally layering the ski and possibly add a layer of bamboo in the middle for a little bit more butter and softness. Once we have a successful layout for the first model, we are going to start making the powder model and then go to the all mountain model. I was looking at similar dimensions as you suggested and think it will handle well. Thanks for the feedback! +K for sure!
 
13149256:momentz said:
your first step in this process should be producing several skis. It always ends up being a much more difficult process than what people believe. Next step would be to test these skis on the slopes, let some friends try them out and get some feedback. Step 3 is build on the feedback and improve your skis until you reach a product that is actually marketable. Take your time, everyone would rather see a well thought out and designed product than a first ski out of the press.
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We have couple of people who are going to test the skis out including myself. We aren't expecting them to be amazing right from the start so we are planning to have the skis available online next season. We are yet to make an Instagram and Facebook page but when we do, it will be EastCoastSkis for the instagram and East Coast Skis for the facebook page so be sure to tell your friends to like us and we will be updating everyone one when the release date for the skis is and how the skis ride
 
13149277:Poikenz said:
This always gets me. Aren't all skis hand made, just machine assisted? Clearly you aren't "hand clamping them" and you aren't grinding them down by hand with a file, that would be silly, time consuming, and produce a worse result in all likelihood.
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True, technically all skis are handmade but what we mean by handmade is that we aren't producing in big bulks and we are going to take more time analyzing each step to reduce the chance of defect. And we are making the ski dimensions by hand instead of using CAD software to make them for us. We don;t want the skis to be looked at like many skis on the market, we want them to be looked at like art in which I mean that they aren't being mass produced and that we take the time to check each little step to erase any possible defects.
 
13149222:SkiJunkyJ said:
EC stands for East Coast. We are based in Southern New Hampshire. We are trying to get into the freestyle and powder/backcountry business. We are almost done with the press and have our first ski planned out which is about 125-95-125 and will be at the starting size of 178 because i am going to be messing around with material combinations until we find the best one. We are starting off by using a 4001 grade ptex, a Maple core that runs through the entire ski, tip to tail, 22 oz triaxial fiber, we are yet to figure out the other materials. We want the public to know that unlike most skis companies these days, everything is done by hand instead of using big fancy machines. We have put over 30 hours into building the ski press and molds and will continue to put hours into the skis.
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Cool. Doing a survey-type thing like this to find out what potential customers are looking for is a good idea, but I'd say in the future make sure you're just looking for responses from east coast skiers. Honestly not being critical, just trying to help. The east coast specific niche is a really good idea, there are a few, but not many, brands that make skis specifically for the east coast.

If you're really serious about this, I'd recommend doing some research on other micro ski brands that are east coast specific, then figure out how you want to/are going to be different from them. Also, you may want to consider thinking of a better name than what is essentially East Coast Skis.
 
13149424:Watts said:
Cool. Doing a survey-type thing like this to find out what potential customers are looking for is a good idea, but I'd say in the future make sure you're just looking for responses from east coast skiers. Honestly not being critical, just trying to help. The east coast specific niche is a really good idea, there are a few, but not many, brands that make skis specifically for the east coast.

If you're really serious about this, I'd recommend doing some research on other micro ski brands that are east coast specific, then figure out how you want to/are going to be different from them. Also, you may want to consider thinking of a better name than what is essentially East Coast Skis.
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I initially just chose East Coast Skis just so people understood that we are from the East Coast not from Colorado where advertisement and getting into the ski business is easier. I have been thinking of some names here and there but nothing has really stuck. I have looked at a company called Lucid Skis that is based in Maine and is a backcountry ski brand and I have gotten to look at them in person and they are pretty sturdy looking.
 
why would you name a ski company ec skis and discourage such a hudge chunk of the market from even considering buying them?

then you have plans to make 3 ski models

how is this custom?

if you think you want to get into the bc ski market best put away your 22 oz triax and start figuring out how to lay up w/ carbon fiber

and spare us the we are specially handmaking our skis to ensure a lower blem rate untill you make a few pair and figure out it doesn't work that way
 
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