Critique my ski sound design

IanAvery-Leaf

IanAvery-Leaf

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the last edit I made was the first time I've done full sound design of every single trick, takeoffs, landings, and slides. I recorded everything separate and edited it in, so I have a different perspective on how it sounds as the editor. It was way more work than I expected going into it but I'm stoked on the results. My friends weren't that helpful when I asked for critique so I'm calling upon the neutral ears of NS filmmakers to take a listen and give me some feedback on the audio, what works, what doesn't, etc. thanks!

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Fantastic edit dude. The sound definitely enhances the whole experience, fitting in with the music well. Crisp and clean!
 
this edit was so well done!! I definitely like when the skiing sound effects are enhanced, although sometimes I though they were a bit too loud and noticeable. However that could be because I was focussing on them and watching for them.

Just curious how you went about recording them? did you basically do every rail shot twice?
 
13916090:LukasSchroeder said:
this edit was so well done!! I definitely like when the skiing sound effects are enhanced, although sometimes I though they were a bit too loud and noticeable. However that could be because I was focussing on them and watching for them.

Just curious how you went about recording them? did you basically do every rail shot twice?
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thank you! yea I definitely need to work on consistent volume of the effects, it was pretty hard to balance that. They overpower some of the softer parts of the song too even when lowering them

for recording I just used a videomic pro but unthreaded from the hotshoe, just holding it handheld as close to the action as possible. There were some tricks that had to be recorded 4+ times (not counting attempts that weren't landed), for multi angles for the video side, then different approaches to the audio, since recording near the beginning of the rail got great takeoff audio but you could barely hear the landing, and vice-versa.

I tried to have Jack re-do the tricks as close as possible so things sounded the most accurate, by far the hardest to capture was the audio from the sw2 to b4 on the S rail, since he lands hard almost halfway down the rail and also spinning out sounds different than just coming off straight, I'm very happy with how that part ended up though, you can even hear the sound of his skis hitting each other in the air as hes finishing the blind 4 rotation
 
Awesome edit. Dunno how this would sound, but you could try making the effects louder for shots when the camera is closer to the skier, and softer/not present when you're filming far enough away that you wouldn't normally hear the sound. Might be worth tinkering with...
 
Ridiculously clean edit. The sound was great also though I agree it could be a bit more subtle at some points, but other than that you 100% nailed it.
 
13916957:Goonsquad_Prod. said:
What did you use to film this? I thought I saw a MoVi pro shadow somewhere in there
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yeah that shadow @1:19 is from a Mōvi M5 w/ a ring mount, makes it way easier to shoot skiing with vs traditional gimbal handlebars. I mounted an A7Sii and a Canon 16-35 2.8 since it doesn't extend/retract while zooming so its perfect for glidecam/gimbal filming. All the tripod stuff was an A7Rii + 70-200 2.8 in super35mm crop mode since the A7Rii pixel bins if you use the full sensor readout

13917048:skiermen said:
Awesome edit. Dunno how this would sound, but you could try making the effects louder for shots when the camera is closer to the skier, and softer/not present when you're filming far enough away that you wouldn't normally hear the sound. Might be worth tinkering with...
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I thought about that but with a lot of the long lens shots even though I'm far away, Jack fills the frame so I thought I would just make everything equal
 
Dude so good...Audio is fuckin rabbit hole so everything you did add sound to was nearly perfect, maybe off by one or two frames but 99% of people watching won't notice any of that. To be critical if your using a song that as quiet as the one you did it would've been sweet to have every clip filled out with audio (of course thats fucking ridiculous and so much work so I get why that wasn't the case). That one shot of shaq's feet in the soft snow was begging for some audio, and some of the cut aways could've benefited from audio too. That screamin seamen disaster cut away was one that bugged me a little just because you cut after he landed on the rail but there wasn't any audio with it. You could play around with ramping some audio too, its pretty fun and makes an edit that much better. All in all though really sick if its your first go, definitely better than a lot of the sound design I've done in the past.
 
13925499:Andrew_M said:
Dude so good...Audio is fuckin rabbit hole so everything you did add sound to was nearly perfect, maybe off by one or two frames but 99% of people watching won't notice any of that. To be critical if your using a song that as quiet as the one you did it would've been sweet to have every clip filled out with audio (of course thats fucking ridiculous and so much work so I get why that wasn't the case). That one shot of shaq's feet in the soft snow was begging for some audio, and some of the cut aways could've benefited from audio too. That screamin seamen disaster cut away was one that bugged me a little just because you cut after he landed on the rail but there wasn't any audio with it. You could play around with ramping some audio too, its pretty fun and makes an edit that much better. All in all though really sick if its your first go, definitely better than a lot of the sound design I've done in the past.
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hey thanks man I appreciate the feedback, glad you recognize how much damn work went into it all. I thought I would include a few shots with no audio so you can hear the song unobstructed but now that you mention that closeup of Jack skiing by its definitely begging to have audio, my b. Also to be honest on that screamin shot, from that angle he never actually hit the rail, one of the reasons we re-filmed from the lower angle for the landing cut ;)
 
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