CREATINE

Wrong you seem to not even know what pre-workout supplements are and anything you say in response to this I'm not even going to answer because you're wrong.
 
Really man you think I'm a douche bag? do you think a douche bag like me would fuck this many many bitches everyday............,because I don't
 
Don't get upset just because you don't know what you're talking about. If you read my previous 2 posts and googled some stuff you would realize I know the most about what's going on here. I've studied under somebody who makes a living researching this and lecturing to NBA teams, Olympic trainers, cyclists, and football clubs in Europe. I'm not trying to impress, but people are so thick headed when it comes to this stuff. The only people in this thread with any intellligence on this subject are the jay guy and zzzski or whatever his username is.
 
got a bunch of free stuff and some questions if anybody knows about this stuff

ACG3 (x2)

1MR

Is there anyway to tell when they stopped using DMAA? All I can find is a pdf listing both under "products formerly containing DMAA" but no dates. They have 13 months left until expiration if that helps. I recently finished some of the Jack3d with DMAA, I only take half a scoop but I think I'm going to stay away from it from now on.

Also got some

ON Creatine 2500 pills which Im going to use

ON Glutamine 1000 pills- quick google and I'm not seeing a whole lot of positives about this?

GU Roctane Ultra Endurance Powder- prob dont have much use for this especially with skiing being over

and some stuff that seems sketchy:

Vanadyl Sulfate pills (20mg vanadyl sulfate, 20mg niacin)

Chromium Picolinate 200 pills

I kept seeing the word "toxic" come up when I looked at the info about these so I'll prob ditch them
 
havent read the full thread, but this is my understanding of creatine. correct me if im wrong.

1) Muscles use ATP as energy. (adenosine tri(3) phosphate)

2) To use the ATP as energy it is phosphorylated (process that removes one of the 3 phosphate groups)

3) ADP (adensine di(2) phosphate) is the left over macromolecule after ATP is phosphorylated/used as energy.

4) ADP then undergoes another process sort of like recycling in order to gain back a phosphate group, once again becoming ATP, therefore being once again readily available energy for muscles to use.

5) As a supplement, when ingested, creatine is converted by the body into creatine PHOSPHATE. The purpose of creatine is to make easily available phosphate groups to help increase the speed of recycling ADP back to ATP. More ATP = more energy, more energy = more reps, more reps = more muscle building.

I know this is pathetic in scientific detail, but i wanted to scrap the jargon and keep it simple. Correct me if i'm wrong, cause i might be.
 
This is true to many degrees, but its all about what you're looking for. Think GSP takes creatine? of course not and he's a physical specimen, but he's not a huge buff body-builder either. I stay away from creatine because I want to be in great shape but still have full motion in my limbs without the size of the muscles literally weighing me down if that makes sense
 
are you a retard? muscles are mostly water, and creatine will not change the proportion of water as you gain weigh. tif you're worried about muscles that are too big don't train for size, although size will barely affect your range motion, unless you go ridiculous, if you continue to maintain flexibility with stretches
 
You are wrong on so many levels. I'd be willing to bet GSP does take creatine. Do your research, because you're blatantly wrong.
 
To reiterate

ADP + Creatine phosphate Creatine + ATP

chemical energy in the body is ATP, so the more you have the longer you'll be able to work out/more you will be able to push yourself.

 
Pretty much. Everyone seems to get so concerned over what combination of supplements they're using that they forget the most important part of lifting is, well...actually lifting. You can take all the best supplements in the world, but unless you're actually in the gym banging out reps and steadily increasing weight, they're not going to help you.

With that said, I'm not against supplements. I take a pre-workout occasionally on off days or when I just don't feel motivated, but I almost always feel more satisfied after a hard workout without it. I may not feel the crazy "pump" that everyone loves, but I also don't come home and feel burned out, grumpy, and tired. I've never been a fan of protein powder or any of that other shit either. To each his own. People just need to remember that supplements aren't magic potions. If you want to get big you have to work for it.
 
They try to claim it's a different type of creatine that absorbs better or some shit. According to reviews I've read it's just as effective as monohydrate. Like you said CMH is CMH, especially when most of the companies use creapure.
 
Geeze why are ppl so harsh on ns. I've been away for a long time now switched to reddit and I've noticed people seem so angry on this site lol. If I am wrong I'm wrong, but I didn't claim to be an expert just going by what I've seen in many of my friends taking it. No need to get all like dat yo
 
this thread is ridiculous. I've been supplementing with creatine for a year now and I believe that it has greatly enhanced my workouts, and in turn my muscle and strength gains. I've never felt bloated, or really had any negative side effect from using it. It however is not a cure all wonder supplement that will make you huge in 3 days. It's made to enhance your workouts and better equip your body to build muscle.

watch this video if you have any questions, and do your research before you take it (or before you spew bullshit broscience on NS).

 
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source: menshealth.co.uk

There is no evidence that cycling on and off creatine is more or less effective than loading and maintaining creatine. However, the greatest benefits of creatine supplementation occur with enhanced training. Therefore, if an athlete wants to cycle creatine, it's more effective to take creatine when they are involved in heavy training.

Read more: http://www.menshealth.com/supplements/articles/The_Facts_About_Creatine.php#ixzz2WUsbosSG
 
Fucking google it I'm not your Personal trainer. I use both and I like CHL better. So yes I spend 30$ on 60 days worth instead of 10$ You got a fucking problem with that?
 
I do have an idea about what im talking about, i looked into every i put into my body, but I know for a fact you don't lift, and I'm not going to waste the time. But look into the body building store if you care it's the 10th top rated product on the site and Goves you a pretty detailed explanation of what it is.
 
Not what I said at all, it has a 9/10 rating from other mebers on bb (you know other people who actually work out) is it better then the 10$ stuff yes is it worth the 30$ more I think so, but some people don't. If you want to actually do some Research and have an argument feel free to.
 
i do the know the theory behind the different types of creatines, and i have come to the conclusion, along with prettty much everyone wh has done the same, that there is no functional difference.

BB.com is overrun with bro science and has horrendous info floating around. You are contributing to both.

I just dont understand how you can put something in your body, and reccomend it to others with ZERO idea how it works.
 
I'm on my phone right now The creatine CHL is more concentrated than the monohydrate and i get more energy from it. Am I saying mono hydrate is bad no there all good, but I found the best results from my personal exsprence chl is better and I'm not typing the since of it on my IPhone.
 
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