Crazy Old Utah Grandpa

Who the fuck still lives in Brighton that isn't specifically there for the resort? I can't imagine that old guy's logic and hatred of the skiers and boarders.

Yeah, fuck the IKON shitheads, but the average Brighton passholder has an even worse reputation.
 
The culture wars in that state and SLC along side the territorial gatekeeping of "our land" by boomers with paid-off houses, NIMBY Dual-Income couples, and kids who just moved there in the last 5 seasons is just too much nowadays. Utah is a melting pot of narcissism and mental illness. Great skiing though, but really shitty people most of the time. Meanwhile people are OD'ing in the front yards of houses just below the University of Utah.

My buddys mom got knocked-out in the liftline of Payday Chair at Park City this season for cutting someone off.

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i thought this was going to be another bashing of some old person who just wants to be left alone but holy that is scary.
 
14593798:GayWolf420 said:
My buddys mom got knocked-out in the liftline of Payday Chair at Park City this season for cutting someone off.
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We need more context. That's insane
 
14593805:HypeBeast said:
We need more context. That's insane
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It was just an exchange of words that led to some asshole putting hands on middle-aged lady for cutting him off. It was my sisters longtime best friend that we grew up skiing with, and they've been longtime PC locals for multiple decades, raised their family there, etc. Theres a video of it that my friend posted but she deleted it cuz I think a police investigation came about from it.

Funny enough this is kind of a common thing at PC resorts and other Utah resorts. I had a guy put one of my athletes in a headlock during the Covid season for a mask disagreement, and while the kids were being little 17 year old shitheads, you're also the adult of the situation and should act like one. I tried getting the lift-ops team to stop the chair or at least mark it and call for backup but they blew me off, so that pissed me off a little bit and I kinda lost my cool, which Management at PC didn't like at all.

But anyways, this asshole loads the chair in front of my athletes and proceeds to film them and take photos of them which was lame. We unload at the top of Crescent chair and just before we unload, thankfully one of the Foreman's stops the chair to talk with me and my kids which was cool. The Chair starts back up, groups are seperated, and then this dude skis over to this kid and grabs him by his neck as he tries to throw him to the ground. Thank god that foreman was there to break it up otherwise I would've kicked the fuckers teeth in with my Cochises.

Long story short: VR banned my pass which caused me to not be able to work despite still being employed, so I got a labor lawyer involved. It was a really shitty ordeal. Also VR failed to call the police and the family of the athletes self-reported to PC Police about it, so i got to fill out witness statements and all sorts of fun stuff. Idk whatever happened to the guy but I hope he's dead somewhere.

TLDR The community aspect of Utah is extremely dead and its sad to see.

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From growing up here I have some of those stories but im sure we all have them at our locals.

PC is where you hear the wildest stories from tho, alot of fighting in the lift line, I think its tourism, locals and having money. This old guy at btown kinda got mad baggy pants tho.
 
14593812:GayWolf420 said:
It was just an exchange of words that led to some asshole putting hands on middle-aged lady for cutting him off. It was my sisters longtime best friend that we grew up skiing with, and they've been longtime PC locals for multiple decades, raised their family there, etc. Theres a video of it that my friend posted but she deleted it cuz I think a police investigation came about from it.

Funny enough this is kind of a common thing at PC resorts and other Utah resorts. I had a guy put one of my athletes in a headlock during the Covid season for a mask disagreement, and while the kids were being little 17 year old shitheads, you're also the adult of the situation and should act like one. I tried getting the lift-ops team to stop the chair or at least mark it and call for backup but they blew me off, so that pissed me off a little bit and I kinda lost my cool, which Management at PC didn't like at all.

But anyways, this asshole loads the chair in front of my athletes and proceeds to film them and take photos of them which was lame. We unload at the top of Crescent chair and just before we unload, thankfully one of the Foreman's stops the chair to talk with me and my kids which was cool. The Chair starts back up, groups are seperated, and then this dude skis over to this kid and grabs him by his neck as he tries to throw him to the ground. Thank god that foreman was there to break it up otherwise I would've kicked the fuckers teeth in with my Cochises.

Long story short: VR banned my pass which caused me to not be able to work despite still being employed, so I got a labor lawyer involved. It was a really shitty ordeal. Also VR failed to call the police and the family of the athletes self-reported to PC Police about it, so i got to fill out witness statements and all sorts of fun stuff. Idk whatever happened to the guy but I hope he's dead somewhere.

TLDR The community aspect of Utah is extremely dead and its sad to see.

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putting hands on an elderly woman is insane, especially over a liftline. covid guy is demented, imagine being so scared of a disease that you would assault a kid.

not as gnarly, but my dad used to be an ambassador at sugarbush. once he got put on the lift line duty up at heaven's gate, and if he got interrupted he would lose his train of thought and forget which line was next, so he'd be like "where was I?" so one time these dudes were like "oh it was us" even though it wasn't, douchey move but not the biggest deal. so a guy in the line that was supposed to go was like "aw it was us", not complaining, just kind of a side hand remark. so then the first guy flips off the second guy and goes "nah nah", probably swore at him too, which is just insane. keep in mind this guy is middle aged, just acting like a fucking baby. lowk hate sugarbush lol mrg much better
 
14593823:SteezyYeeter said:
putting hands on an elderly woman is insane, especially over a liftline. covid guy is demented, imagine being so scared of a disease that you would assault a kid.

not as gnarly, but my dad used to be an ambassador at sugarbush. once he got put on the lift line duty up at heaven's gate, and if he got interrupted he would lose his train of thought and forget which line was next, so he'd be like "where was I?" so one time these dudes were like "oh it was us" even though it wasn't, douchey move but not the biggest deal. so a guy in the line that was supposed to go was like "aw it was us", not complaining, just kind of a side hand remark. so then the first guy flips off the second guy and goes "nah nah", probably swore at him too, which is just insane. keep in mind this guy is middle aged, just acting like a fucking baby. lowk hate sugarbush lol mrg much better
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Welcome to America!
 
People seem angrier in general this year, maybe it's the crowds, maybe it's the traffic, but that dude brandishing a fucking shotgun at the bottom of hidden canyon is the craziest thing I've seen all year. Put up a fence if you don't want people doing that, or just tell them if you care that much without fucking shoving them and brandishing a shotgun at em.
 
14593812:GayWolf420 said:
Thank god that foreman was there to break it up otherwise I would've kicked the fuckers teeth in with my Cochises.

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Real men wear Cochise. Crazy ass story. Shows just how much vr cares about their staff.
 
14593862:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
People seem angrier in general this year, maybe it's the crowds, maybe it's the traffic, but that dude brandishing a fucking shotgun at the bottom of hidden canyon is the craziest thing I've seen all year. Put up a fence if you don't want people doing that, or just tell them if you care that much without fucking shoving them and brandishing a shotgun at em.
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people are angry cause millions of illegals are coming in and our gov is doing nothing
 
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
 
14594082:SkiBum. said:
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
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I think his actions might be enough to constitute a criminal threatening charge. I'm not a lawyer, but the UPD saying its an open case makes me think this was very much not legal
 
14594082:SkiBum. said:
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
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lots of things are legal, but retarded

i like guns but some of you act like since you're into guns you have to defend every idiot's use of them in the world lol. old guy in the video is a complete kook, brandishing and pushing some random harmless snowboarder? come onnn dude lmao
 
Good to know the police in Utah are still fucking jackasses. Regardless if its your personal property, you cannot point a firearm at someone for no reason. I can't wait to hear about some tourist getting blown away and Reyes releasing a statement along the lines of, "no one could have seen this coming! What a tragic circumstance!" Fucking idiots.
 
He was on a public road. Even if the boarder had crossed private property, he was no longer treaspassing and there's no justification to flag him with a shotgun

14594082:SkiBum. said:
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
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14594133:SlushSeason said:
He was on a public road. Even if the boarder had crossed private property, he was no longer treaspassing and there's no justification to flag him with a shotgun
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How do you now that was a public road?
 
14594148:johnblaze said:
There is a difference if I'm off his property and on a public road vs on his driveway dipshit.
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Not every road is public either, a huge portion of roads and some highways are actually private in the US

Not agreeing with the cranky gun weilding geezer but private streets are super common just saying
 
14594148:johnblaze said:
There is a difference if I'm off his property and on a public road vs on his driveway dipshit.
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Not when you're pointing a firearm at someone, you fucking idiot.
 
to bring a chair out to post up with a shotgun was his plan for the whole day lmao.premeditated for sure. i hope it was unloaded. it is his property and i get the want to have access to the forest so not fencing it but the property value must be through the roof if you can ski to it. cash out and move to a comparable property old man.
 
14594082:SkiBum. said:
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
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he may not have done anything illegal bit let's not normalize pointing guns at people that are on your property that clearly have no malicious intent. No wonder people get shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or knocking on the wrong door.
 
14594285:TOAST. said:
he may not have done anything illegal bit let's not normalize pointing guns at people that are on your property that clearly have no malicious intent. No wonder people get shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or knocking on the wrong door.
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Its illegal, you dumb fucks.
 
14594294:skierman said:
Its illegal, you dumb fucks.
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if thats his driveway on his private property as he stated and those people were in fact trespassing then he was fully acting within the law.
 
14594298:partyandBS said:
if thats his driveway on his private property as he stated and those people were in fact trespassing then he was fully acting within the law.
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100% incorrect, you dumb fuck. You cannot point a firearm at someone simply because they're on your property.
 
14594298:partyandBS said:
if thats his driveway on his private property as he stated and those people were in fact trespassing then he was fully acting within the law.
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100% incorrect, you dumb fuck. You cannot point a firearm at someone because they're on your property. I'd say google it but you're clearly too fucking lazy to do so.
 
14593812:GayWolf420 said:
It was just an exchange of words that led to some asshole putting hands on middle-aged lady for cutting him off. It was my sisters longtime best friend that we grew up skiing with, and they've been longtime PC locals for multiple decades, raised their family there, etc. Theres a video of it that my friend posted but she deleted it cuz I think a police investigation came about from it.

Funny enough this is kind of a common thing at PC resorts and other Utah resorts. I had a guy put one of my athletes in a headlock during the Covid season for a mask disagreement, and while the kids were being little 17 year old shitheads, you're also the adult of the situation and should act like one. I tried getting the lift-ops team to stop the chair or at least mark it and call for backup but they blew me off, so that pissed me off a little bit and I kinda lost my cool, which Management at PC didn't like at all.

But anyways, this asshole loads the chair in front of my athletes and proceeds to film them and take photos of them which was lame. We unload at the top of Crescent chair and just before we unload, thankfully one of the Foreman's stops the chair to talk with me and my kids which was cool. The Chair starts back up, groups are seperated, and then this dude skis over to this kid and grabs him by his neck as he tries to throw him to the ground. Thank god that foreman was there to break it up otherwise I would've kicked the fuckers teeth in with my Cochises.

Long story short: VR banned my pass which caused me to not be able to work despite still being employed, so I got a labor lawyer involved. It was a really shitty ordeal. Also VR failed to call the police and the family of the athletes self-reported to PC Police about it, so i got to fill out witness statements and all sorts of fun stuff. Idk whatever happened to the guy but I hope he's dead somewhere.

TLDR The community aspect of Utah is extremely dead and its sad to see.

**This post was edited on Feb 26th 2024 at 7:55:53pm

**This post was edited on Feb 26th 2024 at 7:57:05pm
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i moved to park city from alta it was a big change i the first thing i noticed is all of the rich assholes there is plenty of people that will yell at little kids for not knowing how to alternate in the lift line i make it my personal goal to be nice as possible
 
14594318:skierman said:
100% incorrect, you dumb fuck. You cannot point a firearm at someone because they're on your property. I'd say google it but you're clearly too fucking lazy to do so.
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listen hear ya inbred piece of shit, i did google it and you most certainly can point a firearm at trespasser if you feel threatened of death or serious bodily injury. which the latter part of that would be a stretch but I bet a mormon jury supports ol elmer fudd on this one.

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14594349:partyandBS said:
listen hear ya inbred piece of shit, i did google it and you most certainly can point a firearm at trespasser if you feel threatened of death or serious bodily injury. which the latter part of that would be a stretch but I bet a mormon jury supports ol elmer fudd on this one.

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Those skiers and snowboarder on the public road are a real threat.
 
14594358:snowfinder said:
Those skiers and snowboarder on the public road are a real threat.
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pretty sure the old man is in his driveway which is his private property. they are still not a threat in my opinion. i just like to take any opportunity i can to call skierman inbred.
 
14594082:SkiBum. said:
Open carry is legal. Open carry on your own property is legal. Telling a trespasser to leave your property with a gun is legal.

Could said situation have been handled different, sure. But nothing in video is out of line in the legal mindset. I bet that snowboarder doesn’t come back!

Also was funny he said Ikoner.
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14594148:johnblaze said:
There is a difference if I'm off his property and on a public road vs on his driveway dipshit.
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14594298:partyandBS said:
if thats his driveway on his private property as he stated and those people were in fact trespassing then he was fully acting within the law.
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14594349:partyandBS said:
listen hear ya inbred piece of shit, i did google it and you most certainly can point a firearm at trespasser if you feel threatened of death or serious bodily injury. which the latter part of that would be a stretch but I bet a mormon jury supports ol elmer fudd on this one.

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Y'all are missing the point. He needs to have a treat of imminent danger to a person's life to justify that level of force. What the old guy did was 100% illegal. It's insane the amount of gun owners who don't understand this concept. You can't protect property with firearms in most (if not all states?) states simply on the basis of preventing loss of said property or for trespassing, unless a person is inside your home. You shoot someone for being on your property and you will get convicted and you will go to prison.

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He didn't use any force let alone deadly.

14594477:HypeBeast said:
Y'all are missing the point. He needs to have a treat of imminent danger to a person's life to justify that level of force. What the old guy did was 100% illegal. It's insane the amount of gun owners who don't understand this concept. You can't protect property with firearms in most (if not all states?) states simply on the basis of preventing loss of said property or for trespassing, unless a person is inside your home. You shoot someone for being on your property and you will get convicted and you will go to prison.

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