from what i heard it sounds like it was both their fault, when you fall on something like that you should get out of the way as quick as possible, and wait to get your gear, atleast thats what i do, and kye should have atleast waited longer, or gone off a different area. they both made a mistake any one of us would have made. but i think cr. needs alot more help than kye does, it sounds like he is really messed up.