CPR for Guys

Having taken Advanced cardiac life support today, I found that CPR destroys the sternum into a mush of broken bones. Hey, its better than dying.

Yea, lets do it to hot girls... NOT
 
If you've only found that out now it can't be that advanced.

Also the 2nd related video is pretty horrible
 
we also learn what drugs to administer for what cardiac episodes that emerge for tachycardia, brachycardia, torsade de pointe, ventricular fibrilations and what not and how to maintain an advanced airway via endotracial tubes with a laryngoscope and a laryngoscope mask airway, but yea... just figured it out bro. Good call.
 
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Not to claim anything but I'm a lifeguard in the summer.After doing CPR on people twice so far I can tell you that it doesnt save anyone.

It just keeps the blood and air flowing in their body till someone comes over with a defribilator ( I dont know if I spelt that rite ).

We revise techniques every morning before work.

How to do it on a pregnant women or on a child, how to dislocate the jaw to help the air flow when the air cant get into their body.

We even practice on a real mannequin to see how deep and how fast we need to go with the compressions.

And believe me , the person would rather have you break their sternum , than to die.
 
Isnt that why you tilt the patients head back to open up the airways to the lungs?? Disloacating the jaw just makes it harder to breath, and put the patient in more danger. Who the fuck is preforming and teaching people to do shit like that? Did you even do some reacearch on your own to back that up? Just google it, and you'll find out that this is a really fucking bad idea and could make things much worse.

Humans is not like anacondas.
 
My friend told me that his mom just took an EMT course and apparently breathing into their mouth doesn't do anything so you should only do the chest compressions. Can anyone back me up on this?
 
If i'm not mistaken, the point of breathing in to their mouth isn't so much to jump start them, but to try and replace some of the air in their lungs so that there is some o2 for your compressions to circulate through their body. help minimize brain damage due to lack of o2. granted, it's not perfect, but it's obviously better than no new air at all. you can see how quickly they'd run out of o2 in their lungs if they aren't breathing.
 
It's better to do both. If you don't have a pocket mask and don't want to endanger yourself, chest compressions are better than nothing. In the case of an unconscious drowning victim, only doing compressions is not the greatest as getting air in the lungs is a priority (since there is no air underwater..).

I've been a lifeguard for 5 years now
 
Lol I can see EMS showing up and being like what the fuck are you doing it took us 10 minutes to get here why have you done only one set of compressions

fucking finger walking man, shit takes time
 
I'm a lifeguard too, and yes sternum, and potentially, ribs do break In the process. And yeah CPR isn't going to save anyone. Just keeps the blood moving throughout the body. But you guys already said that!
 
Your stupidity really does know no bounds.

On an unrelated note, the video never tells you to check for pulse. Never do chest compressions on somebody without first verifying that they don't have a pulse.
 
i've been cpr certified for most of my life..the method is turning mostly to compressions and less breaths. you can survive a lot longer without fresh air through the lungs than blood moving to the brain.

 
A few of us need to be certified at work and that's what we were taught this year as well. I hope to god I never have to perform CPR or use the defibulator on someone.
 
We dont just do CPR , we practices situations in the water. How to do bandages.We are 37 lifeguards on duty .

Its a pretty massive place.

Has 3 beaches and a water park
 
i need to recycle cpr and first aid courses yearly because i'm a diving instructor and it changes every so often... last update i heard was that because checking a pulse is pretty difficult for an untrained person it is removed from the cpr process and is completely replaced by checking for breathing because

1: if there is no pulse the person also wont be breathing (or at least not for long)

2: if there is no breathing and the victim is unconscious in most of the cases there also won't be a pulse and even if there is, the breathing might be stopped by for example a foreign object and commencing chest compression will most likely evacuate this object and enable normal breathing again ....

so unless you're a trained professional, check for breathing ....

how to check for breathing: put the victim flat on his/her back, remove clothing from chest and put one of your ears close to the face of the victim to hear and feel breathing while your looking down the chest of the victim to see if it is rising and lowering as you'd expect with normal breathing ....

remember that a slow breathing cycle can take several seconds between breaths so take your time to verify ...
 
If the victim has a neck or spinal injury. If you would tilt their head back it would make it worst. Even kill them.Therefor they suggest what is called subluxation of the jaw. Its not a total dislocation. But it helps to get the air inside instead of tilting the head back.

This is standard red cross procedure .
 
I was doing a course a month or 2 ago, and they were still saying to tilt their head back, how recent is the subluxation thing?
 
Fuck that, now when I try to remember how to do CPR I'll get a boner and that will make sucking on some guys face 2x as gay.
 
You have to tilt their heads back. But in the case where the person May have a spinal injury they use that méthod. Ive Been certified since the âge of 16 as a Lifeguard and its always Been like that
 
you must make a difference between trained medical professionals and lay rescuers ....

people with a basic CPR education are taught the simple head tilt chinlift method, only trained medical professionals are still taught the jaw thrust manoeuver ...

that being said, if you know what your doing and are trained in the jaw thrust manoeuver and there are signs that suggest a spinal injury, the jaw thrust method you're describing is definitely the way to go ....

if you have not been trained to do so, then the head tilt chin lift method is still better than doing nothing at all ...
 
I am not a trained medical professional. Unless you consider lifeguards medical professionals.We are only first respondent.I learned about that technique when I was 16 the first time.

I think the course structure in the US might be different then Canada.
 
I think if its a matter of life or death. It doesnt really matter if you break their bones or dislocate their jaw. As long as you keep them alive.
 
Well seeing how the only people you've tried to help died, I'd rather go out quietly rather than have some bitch breaking my ribs and ripping apart my jaw while I die.
 
Who said I helped people and they died ? So far, no one ever died in my hands and Id love to keep it that way. Training everymorning to keep up to date on our techniques is excellent for that.I had to go in the water more than once this year to save some kids. Parents think were babysitters
 
Well this makes total sens to me. I dont know but if someones not breathing, that means they probably dont have a pulse and if so they need air asap.
 
you're right, these things differ between countries, i think that in europe we follow the resuscitation council's guidelines: http://www.resus.org.uk/pages/gl2010.pdfthese say that jaw thrust is too complicated for lay rescuers... (page 21)

i've been looking through several guidelines of the american heart association but can't really find what i'm looking for...
 
oh boy. I suggest you do some research yourself.

as a ski patrol, I can definitely say that is a perfectly legit technique for opening up the airway when there is a suspected spinal injury since it doesn't put any other pressures on the spine.
 
worried about a c spine injury? Use this. Opens up the airway without tilting the neck and you can get a good placement of your cpr mask. Just be ready to roll the patient over if they throw up.

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I know that in Canada. Once you are qualified you have to go back each 2 year to do a requalification.In all places I worked at, we also did one team training ( physical and technical ) every week and we also did short 45 min training before work in the morning.

 
You dont check pulse anymore.If they dont breath, theres very slight chance that they have a pulse.

You are just not up to date with your technique.
 
berman oral airway. They are like $5 for a kit and there is also another device you can use that is a tube that goes up the patients nose to the throat to create a open airway but I forget what its called. Just make sure to roll the patient over when they vomit and sweep or they will die three days later due to vomit in the lungs if they are brought back.
 
Yea. Ive seen people almost drown in their puke even if you roll them over. Its pretty fucked up , you def have to stick ur fingers inside their throat to get everything out
 
illegal to use in Canada without a suction device for vomit, so you shouldn't have to roll them over. plus if you're using it, chances are they have suspected spinal problems and you don't really want to be rolling them all over the place anyways.
 
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