Cork 720 help

elkoning

elkoning

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Last year near the end of our season I tired a couple cork 720's. I have never done them into a foam pit or anything, but I can get them on a tramp consistently. When I did them on skis I was throwing them to inverted. Any tips?
 
I had the same problem at the end of last year, never tried them into foam but had them consistent on tramp, even with different grabs. I found that the way it's set on skis versus tramp is very different because your center of gravity is much lower because of the skis adding weight. When you do it on tramp it is actually more inverted because of where your weight is, so on snow it's almost a different trick. To compensate, you would obviously just not throw it so far back to be less inverted. I know just that won't help, so the best way to think of it on skis is to try just dropping your leading shoulder on the takeoff rather than your whole back like you would on tramp. Also contrary to what you want to do, leaning back, you actually want to come into the jump with a lot of shin pressure. If you do this, you can pull your feet forward in the air while you drop your lead shoulder giving you the cork while you spin, but it's really controlled by your movements and not just thrown where you think you should go. Pulling your feet in and forward will give you the force back into a corked spin much like someone doing a backflip on the ground would pull their legs up to flip back, rather than throwing their back toward the ground. I've personally learned this and that principle has helped a ton in learning and controlling tricks in the air. Good luck this season. Let us know when you get them.
 
Somethng that really helped me was driving my right knee to a spot beside you at the take off (I spin left, do the opposite for right). Doing this will make your rotation not too backwards but to the side (i dont know how to explain it). If you get the chance, try this, it really helps alot. Also try double safety with your trick, seems to control the flip more.
 
13486424:THEE_wizard said:
I had the same problem at the end of last year, never tried them into foam but had them consistent on tramp, even with different grabs. I found that the way it's set on skis versus tramp is very different because your center of gravity is much lower because of the skis adding weight. When you do it on tramp it is actually more inverted because of where your weight is, so on snow it's almost a different trick. To compensate, you would obviously just not throw it so far back to be less inverted. I know just that won't help, so the best way to think of it on skis is to try just dropping your leading shoulder on the takeoff rather than your whole back like you would on tramp. Also contrary to what you want to do, leaning back, you actually want to come into the jump with a lot of shin pressure. If you do this, you can pull your feet forward in the air while you drop your lead shoulder giving you the cork while you spin, but it's really controlled by your movements and not just thrown where you think you should go. Pulling your feet in and forward will give you the force back into a corked spin much like someone doing a backflip on the ground would pull their legs up to flip back, rather than throwing their back toward the ground. I've personally learned this and that principle has helped a ton in learning and controlling tricks in the air. Good luck this season. Let us know when you get them.
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Really great advice, as someone who is also looking to learn how to do the corky 7 this helps! k+ dood
 
13486424:THEE_wizard said:
I had the same problem at the end of last year, never tried them into foam but had them consistent on tramp, even with different grabs. I found that the way it's set on skis versus tramp is very different because your center of gravity is much lower because of the skis adding weight. When you do it on tramp it is actually more inverted because of where your weight is, so on snow it's almost a different trick. To compensate, you would obviously just not throw it so far back to be less inverted. I know just that won't help, so the best way to think of it on skis is to try just dropping your leading shoulder on the takeoff rather than your whole back like you would on tramp. Also contrary to what you want to do, leaning back, you actually want to come into the jump with a lot of shin pressure. If you do this, you can pull your feet forward in the air while you drop your lead shoulder giving you the cork while you spin, but it's really controlled by your movements and not just thrown where you think you should go. Pulling your feet in and forward will give you the force back into a corked spin much like someone doing a backflip on the ground would pull their legs up to flip back, rather than throwing their back toward the ground. I've personally learned this and that principle has helped a ton in learning and controlling tricks in the air. Good luck this season. Let us know when you get them.
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Thanks homie I will try out your tips, and let you know if I get them.
 
I learned cork 7's this summer. My first 2 cork 7's had the exact same problem as you mentioned. What I did to correct this was really focus on the spin part of the cork 7 and not the flip at all. The slightest dip of the shoulder was able to get me into a true cork (head and feet level with each other) instead of a more D-spin like rotation that I was doing before. On skis barely any shoulder dip with get you off axis, where on a tramp the flip really has to be thrown much harder.

Probably not my best written response but hopefully this helps.
 
13486499:.otto. said:
What size jump should a cork 7 be thrown of for a first try?
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Id say around a 25ft depending on how comfy you are with big jumps and if you can throw stuff on that size. If you are very comfy go 25-30ft. If you aren't quite as comfy id say 20-25. You want a big enough jump to get it around without making it uncomfortably fast.
 
13486424:THEE_wizard said:
I had the same problem at the end of last year, never tried them into foam but had them consistent on tramp, even with different grabs. I found that the way it's set on skis versus tramp is very different because your center of gravity is much lower because of the skis adding weight. When you do it on tramp it is actually more inverted because of where your weight is, so on snow it's almost a different trick. To compensate, you would obviously just not throw it so far back to be less inverted. I know just that won't help, so the best way to think of it on skis is to try just dropping your leading shoulder on the takeoff rather than your whole back like you would on tramp. Also contrary to what you want to do, leaning back, you actually want to come into the jump with a lot of shin pressure. If you do this, you can pull your feet forward in the air while you drop your lead shoulder giving you the cork while you spin, but it's really controlled by your movements and not just thrown where you think you should go. Pulling your feet in and forward will give you the force back into a corked spin much like someone doing a backflip on the ground would pull their legs up to flip back, rather than throwing their back toward the ground. I've personally learned this and that principle has helped a ton in learning and controlling tricks in the air. Good luck this season. Let us know when you get them.
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13486494:bedinski said:
I learned cork 7's this summer. My first 2 cork 7's had the exact same problem as you mentioned. What I did to correct this was really focus on the spin part of the cork 7 and not the flip at all. The slightest dip of the shoulder was able to get me into a true cork (head and feet level with each other) instead of a more D-spin like rotation that I was doing before. On skis barely any shoulder dip with get you off axis, where on a tramp the flip really has to be thrown much harder.

Probably not my best written response but hopefully this helps.
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As somebody who is hoping to get them down pretty early next season, I found these 2 replies incredibly helpful! Wish me luck when I can finally get to a comfy jump!
 
Do this at your own risk, but.... I've heard people sometimes jump with ankle weights to emulate the weight of your skis. Another thing is film your hits on snow and that will help you get an idea of what you need to adjust. Good luck man! Show us some vids this winter, people would be more than happy to help.
 
do a 7, put your left ear to your left shoulder (if you spin left) and commit. Thats what helped me a ton. Good luck man!
 

This tutorial worked wonders for me, breaking the trick down and giving little tips.

He has a section where he talks about adjusting how inverted to go by spotting different areas behind you during the set. It sounds like you need to take off spotting the area a few meters back from your skis, rather than actually the tails... this may set you on a flatter axis. Hope that helps, I only learned them towards the end of last season. Had a few rough days trying them for the first time, then watched that video and was getting them on 40'ers! Have fun
 
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