conspiracy theory...

JibbaJabba

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I don't know why but I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I've been entertaining the idea that our government was actually behind the 9/11 attacks. Think about it, everything that the US wants to do outside of its border it justifies it with 9/11 and 'the war on terrorism'. I'm not saying it's true, but just what if the bigwigs did do it. Maybe they did it to take attention from the ever-declining economy but perhaps their motives ran deeper. Maybe they did it as leverage to go out and conquer in order to gain control of the most valuable resource on this planet, oil. I dont know if i even believe this, but just something to think about in your spare time.

 
ive thought about that too before and quite frankly, i really hope that our government would not be assholish enough to kill that many people just to get to the oil, saddam, and bin laden

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its the same conspericy as pearl harbor was. why were all the air craft carriers missing that day. same things with 9/11 where does all this bogus information about a lot of things come from. infact our government tries to cover so much up that the government denied that area 51 existed even though people had pictures of the perimiters. and up to today the government still denies what goes on with a lot of things

 
what amazez me in how efficient they attacks were. These people had either been planning this for years or else there was government hand in it.

 
everything ties together some how,who knows maybe bush and bin laden and saddam are all buddies and theyre living at the whitehouse with an unlimited supply of opium,hash and whores

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there is a theory going around that 9/11 was not created by the taliban, but an anti-taliban organization. The UN was going to help out the crimes against humanities in that area, but the chose not to, and dropped the subject. They dropped the subject on 8/11.

I think i'm going crazy...
 
i dont know if this conspiricy could be true, i mean yes the motives are right and everything but morrally would the us gov go to drastic measures such as that?

 
It doesn't make much sense to me that the U.S. would have much interest in rooting out terrorism if they hadn't been attacked. That's saying... officials decided one day: these terrorists are so bad we need to bomb our own towers to let the rest of our population know that terrorists are bad. Granted there is some interest in Middle Eastern countries with Oil, but how do you explain the want for the government to create this conspiracy to go into Afghanistan? This country has no economic resources and the U.S. had nothing to gain by going in and changing the government. It doesn't sound logical to me that there was such a scare of terrorists before 9/11 for the U.S. to create an attack on its own people. At least if you believe in a Pearl Harbor conspiracy there ALREADY was a war going on and the government had a reason to feel at risk.

 
yes, sure its hard to believe that our own government would intentionally harm and kill thousands of people, but then again not too many people know about jose pidilla either...

i don't think that our government really did that, but there has been alot of speculation on how much the CIA and FBI did know - that there was a good idea of a potential attack, who would do it, where, when, how, there has been alot of accusations that gov't agencys knew about this but poorly communicated with each other thus the attack.

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also, why would the gov't purposely sabatage our economy? it doesnt make sense.

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thats true, but w/ the iraqi conquer they wanted to help the economy in the oil industry

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we havent gained anything from these attacks. weve spent millions on bombs and have the task of rebuilding these countries. and if we wanted iraqs oil we would've taken it by now. it doesnt add up.

 
theres def. a conspiracy theory. i mean the 9-11 attacks gave america everything we wanted to do.

1. support any war the bush adminstration wants to go into and say they are fighting to end terrorism.

2. Get all the americans to support our government to no end and ahve all kinds of patriotism because of 9-11.

3. Win the 2004 elections by claming they are in the middle of the war on terror and the country can't afford a new leader...and also maybe magically mind osama 3 days BEFORE the election! (Wouldn't that be something)

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theres def. a conspiracy theory. i mean the 9-11 attacks gave america everything we wanted to do.

1. support any war the bush adminstration wants to go into and say they are fighting to end terrorism.

2. Get all the americans to support our government to no end and ahve all kinds of patriotism because of 9-11.

3. Win the 2004 elections by claming they are in the middle of the war on terror and the country can't afford a new leader...and also maybe magically mind osama 3 days BEFORE the election! (Wouldn't that be something)

Me: Yeah, all the hicks and stuff in are school make in the hallway its gross.

Sisters bf: Well, they don't care. Their not leaving town, their just like 'Fuck it.'

Sister: Yeah, thats how i feel about law school right now, 'Fuck it, make out in the hallway.'

 
do you really think that pres bush would kill about 3000 people in the attcks, hundreds in the war, and spend milliions of dollars all to win the 2004 election... come on

 
excatly, the conspiracy is not true

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Sugarloafer I have to say your reasoning is pretty retarded:

'1. support any war the bush adminstration wants to go into and say they are fighting to end terrorism.

2. Get all the americans to support our government to no end and ahve all kinds of patriotism because of 9-11. '

Any wat the admninistration wants to get into? Why the hell would they have wanted to go into Afghanistan, do you really believe that much of the government are so trigger happy they'd want to be the cause of 9/11? All kinds of patriotism? Do you know how much opposition within the U.S. there is to these wars? Like people have said, why spin the economy downards and push the deficit even further into the red to fulfill these kind of things you listed? You make it sound like it's impossible for the government to have reacted to 9/11 as it has without it being a conspiracy. That's crap, they may have reacted poorly to many, but a bad reaction and handling of the circumstances does not mean it's a conspiracy.

 
actually no it wouldn't surprise me at all really. sure we are no KGB, but it is nice lil plsu there huh, get to run a country, splurge its resources, extend your power. hmmm the benefits huh? i'm not saying it was a planned attack, i'm just saying that 911 was definately enlisted as a beaurocratic ally for war. that attack was the neoconservative beacon, it finally gave them reason to do everything they've wanted to do.

initially bush didn't even want to go to war, neither did cheney, but b/c of wolfowitz and company they got swayed and lauched a war.

just goes to show how narrowminded our government can be.

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ya thats true ive thought of that a few times before to, it would suck if our gov't would do that much, kill that many people just for oil

 
kink, we already have taken iraqs oil. Before the war was even over the oil fields were contracted out to American companies. Pretty fucked up.

 
I can tell you that connot be true. But back in the Vietnam War, the Tonkin Gulf Incident (that led to the escalation of the war, making it full scale) was purposfully started by the Lyndon B. Johnson administration so that he would get more poplularity for the upcoming election. I did a research paper for history on it and got an A, so im pretty sure it is true.

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it makes sense, but, thats so fucked. If you found out that shit was true... holy fuck... that'd me the end.

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Doug- FUck, that kid had no style, he wasnt even as high as my left testicle.

 
and if you wanna talk conspiracy's, lets go to every murder of world leaders, jfk, the reagan shooting, abe lincoln (oh yeah that far back) and what the hell was up with jfks, i mean, they still havent figured it out? or have they... or did they know all along... you know what im talking about.

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Doug- FUck, that kid had no style, he wasnt even as high as my left testicle.

 
yes yes we know

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OK kids, basically what was needed was a little bit of political capital for bush, you see, if he doesn' have that he doesn't have anything because it takes votes from other people to do these things, so he decided to go to war...but he didn't plan the attacks and i'll give you a few good reasons...the number one reason is civilians, bush is EXTREMELY against total war (which kills civilians) so i find it kind of hard to believe that he would do that to his own people when it is one of his selling points. another reason that he didn't do it is because if he did, do you honestly think he would lead our country into some goose chase for a person that's possibly dead? he's spending millions of dollars a WEEK to find bin laden, if bush KNEW bin laden didn't do it, he wouldn't be spending so much to l ook for him, he would be focusing on war. just think about it kids.

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Bush was also against afirmative action....but we see how that went...

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haha there is this thing on the daily show called Bush vs. Bush where they have a clip of him while he was still governor and one of him now and they totally condradict each other. so damn funny.

 
yes those shows like snl and shit always have hilarious shit bout bush on them

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From UnixPunx (a long read, but worth it):

DADDY, WHY DID WE HAVE TO ATTACK IRAQ?

Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction honey.

Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.

A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?

A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we?

A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.

Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?

A: To use them in a war, silly.

Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them?

A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves.

Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons to fight us back with?

A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did.

A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q: And what was that?

A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country.

Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country?

A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q: Kind of like what they do in China?

A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.

Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?

A: Right.

Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?

A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?

A: I told you, China is different.

Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?

A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist.

Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?

A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?

A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Like in Iraq?

A: Exactly.

Q: And like in China, too?

A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not.

Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?

A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us.

Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists?

A: Don't be a smart-ass.

Q: I didn't think I was being one.

A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?

A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.

Q: What's a military coup?

A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.

Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?

A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend.

Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?

A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader?

A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan.

Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?

A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?

A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men? Fifteen of them Saudi Arabians? hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans.

Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?

A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban.

Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands?

A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001?

A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs.

Q: Fighting drugs?

A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies.

Q: How did they do such a good job?

A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons?

A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread.

Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?

A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply.

Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?

A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q: What's the difference?

A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes

and fingers.

Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.

A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends.

Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia.

A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q: Who trained them?

A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q: Was he from Afghanistan?

A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man.

Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.

A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about?

A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now.

Q: So the Soviets ? I mean, the Russians ? are now our friends?

A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?

A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do?

A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?

A: Well, yeah. For a while.

Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?

A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily.

Q: Why did that make him our friend?

A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?

A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend?

A: Most of the time, yes.

Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy?

A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better.

Q: Why?

A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless un-American Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq?

Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?

A: Yes.

Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?

A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do.

Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head?

A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.

Q: Good night, Daddy.


 
oooo thats golden. pretty much tears apart alot of reasons for war.

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wow my answers to our government have been solved. thank you. now i can safey say canada is the only good place to life for now on. o wait they have sars. GOD Damn it there is no where elnse to go in this world. o wait anartica is still a peaceful place i think

 
of course they were, to draw attension away from the economy and get oil, notice how the previously high oil prices havent gone down since we took iraq? its cuz theyre all skimming off the top. why is weed illigal? cuz cigarette companies allow the govt to tax the hell outta cigs so the govt will kepp their potential biggest competitor illigal. its all bullshit, all the corps are in on it and so is king george II

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wow, that was a really good thinger, those things talked about are so true its scary

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truth is this

there is so much shit going on that we will never know about or even consider in our wildest of all wild dreams.

its better just to sit back and not bother thinking about it, cause thats how you go crazy. people literally drive themselves to the point of insanity just chaseing questions like this one.

i personally suggest watching good movies. ones like beautifull mind and such give you a good idea of what is actually going on, but try and cover it up as hollywood crap.

thats my conspiricy.

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i can agree i tend to not think about things like those questions i'd rather be passivist in a question and answering like that rather than going nuts trying to figure out the actual answer

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Jibbajabber you're misinformed. The oil wells were delegated to ONE US company to rebuild (not plural). Yes they will get some profits from them but they are the people with the know how to get them working again for the iraqi people.

BlindBlinds, you do realize that Lincoln isn't all that far back? why don't you conspire over Ceaser. that would be all the way back.

What_A_Wookie, you do realize that bush has NOTHING to do with the supreme court right? That he hasn't even appointed anyone to the SC yet. But all affirmative action does is give a handicap to people who don't need it (if you say they do doesn't that mean you think white people are better then them?).

Krongos, have you ever thought that possibly OPEC has lowered the crud price to get ready for when the Iraqi people start selling their oil on a free market that hadn't been available to them because of the UN's Oil for Food plan that gave the people of Iraq the short end of the stick. 'Here give us $100 billion of oil and here is $500 million of food to feed your people. To bad you have no decision in this because we are the UN and we passed this resolution' -short hand of Oil for Food plan from the UN resolution.

There is so much ignorance going on within this thread it is ridiculous. You people must really hate this country if you think all of that. Oh someone got an A on a paper from a liberal perspective from a liberal teacher so it must be true. I honestly hope that you people start to think for yourselves and some re-iterating information like a bunch of schoolgirls going for valedictorian.

somethings to think about.

 
bush wanted war I'M sure

all his friends and contacts are in these industries Army stuff and Oil

if he wanted to put down sadam he would have done something esle all the money he spend is for his friends who own US Army supplier buseniss and want to give oil to his family and friends

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yep, I'm sure it would have worked as well as when JFK tried to take down castro (those hated leaders have a way of being prepared to not die, not to mention the several body doubles Sadam has). Bay of Pigs? at least we won the war in iraq. Dam dem's can't win any wars/battles. This thread is just littered with leftist propaganda and it's sick.

 
dude the whole 9/11 thing was set up by the illuminati and skull and bones socciety al quaieda is on the cia'S PAY LIST THROUGH THROUGH THE PAKASTAINI SECRET SERVIES. THE WHOLE WAR ON TERROR IS A SAT UP FOR CONTROL OF THE OIL RESERVES IN THE CASPIEAN SEA AND TO RUN A PIPE LINE FROM THE CASPIAN SEE TO PAKISTAN SO THEY CAN SHIP THE OIL TO THE FREE WORLD i HAVE EVIDENCE OF THIS AND MORE AND WILL POST IT LATTER TODAY

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