Conservatives and Liberals

Ice-Is-Scary

Ice-Is-Scary

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IF you call yourself a conservative or you call yourself a liberal I'll call you an idiot. IF you adopt a 'parties' point of veiws on various topics your ignorant. Learn to think for yourself. You should be going into every topic with 100% open mind and no pre-conceived un-informed notions. I think people would accomplish a lot more in politics if they would look at things more objectively. Try to form your own opinions on the facts and stop adopting your dads political preference or his stance on issues at the dinner table. Thank you please drive through

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let me tell you a little secret... conservaive and liberal arent political parties. now that we have that under control, would you like to rephrase your statement?

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i can spell. conservative... with a t...

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
Sorry adopting an ideaology 100% aswell. Fine substitute liberal for democrat and conservative for republican.

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its a general classification, im a conservative democrat, according to your thnking thats impossible

dont worry about what i can or cant do, worry about what you cant do to me
 
Ok please explain to me what you mean by your a conservative democrat is that kinda like african-american?

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liberal and conservative are parties in Canada, the third best nation in the world to live in. Liberal means you hold more left wing views while conservative means you are more right. You don't have to believe everyhting from one wing or another to be liberal or conservative but you can usually tell who is more inclined to a certain wing.

 
I understand what they mean I was being sarcastic. I understand what your saying by leaning more to the left or more to the right on most issues but that still doesnt change the fact that you should always go into situations with an open mind.

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unless its a debate on wether or not we should allow child molestation. i think ive got my mind pretty much set against that one... very closed.

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When she places them in front of you

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The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
wow, this thread is going nowhere real fast

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I agree, but most people have certain opinions pre-established in their minds goign into any situation and as much as we try to be opened minded, those opinions are going to be there. Whenever I am entering a discussion on a topic I am not familiar, I try to keep an open mind not not lean to a left or right point of view but I try to go with what i feel is right, but usually that is left.

 
so... youve already got a preconcieved notion that you will favor liberal views... hmmm... that doesnt make it easy to keep an open mind does it?

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The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
i said that i do favour liberal views, but when approaching a new topic, i keep an open mind, but usually liberal views are what i side with since that is usually best representative of what i believe in

 
if you look up what the Liberal ideology represents, as it was established in the mid-late 1800s, you'll find that it means something completely different than what it is today.

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well all my views are very liberal, so i call myself a liberal and a democrat. so now i'm an idiot?

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^ sure if you jump into a topic with pre-conceived un-informed notions and already think you know what your stance on a topic based on what your party's opinion. Then yes I would call you an idiot.

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don't worry, i read the newspapers and i make sure my facts are facts and not opinions misconstruded as facts.

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I dunno man I think all media is fairly biased. I think working off personal experience is usually the best bet when possible.

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key words: when possible

it is hard to live off of personal experience when it comes ot, let's say, the war in irag. I don't think there are many, if any people on here that have experienced that first hand. BUT, i do agree with you on that, much of the media is biased, but if you take in a bunch of different sources, it is possible to establish some sort idea of what the truth is

 
Well not necessarily your own personal experiences also include personal experiences of people you know/trust. While I havnt been to Iraq friends of mine have so they provide a little personal insight into the situation.

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they are coming my children...WATCH OUT!!!! THE LIBERALS ARE ONE OF THEM!!!!

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the words 'conservative' and 'liberal' only describe skews in a person's ideologies. The parties are the republican and democratic parties. Even those terms, however, allow seem ideological leeway. For example, you can be a republican who favors choice in abortion, even though traditional republicans favor life, or a liberal who supports the death penalty.

It actually sounds like YOU adopted this idea from your dad, given how little you appear to know about things in general.

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No i just dont see why people feel the need to label themselves so theyll fit into some form of accepted category so they dont feel alone in their ideas.

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Also, anybody who claims to abandon their political biases before tackling every new issue they come across is full of shit. These are the same people who claim to read 4 different newspapers every morning, 'just so they know all the sides.' Usually, these are dip shit 16 year olds who don't even read, but want to sound knowledgeable anyways.

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Hey Ice-Is-Scary, i understand exactly what you meant and sorry that everyone has to get so defensive. Everyone relax, we all know what he meant even if you want to get into the argument over liberal vs conservative, demo vs republican. he meant that why do people feel the need to define exact lines rather than taking it on a issue by issue basis. by this i mean so many choose(and dont get defensive here if this is not you) one side over the other and adopt/support all their ideas but for me this world is not two choices. nothing is two choices. there is no simple black and white with on right or wrong answer. i agree with ice. while i will fall under the liberal side, i also find stuff on that side that i disagree. liberal is the term that others would use to define my beliefs but if you ask me what party im apart of, if im conservative or liberal, im going to say that I am me, and overall views are a unique collection of thoughts on issues and ideas just like my DNA. but for some reason in this world people like to define not only what they are but what they arent so when we break ourselves and views into groups, we are saying not only that we are republican/democrat but that we are not apart of the opposite. this can only make things in my views harder

 
^ whered this guy come from? It's amazing someone who doesn't try to nit-pick peoples statements apart and twist what they are trying to say to disprove them. As far as right and wrong answers to these issues, I also believe there are not clear cut solutions only comprimises on any of these controversial issues.

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shit slam, that is so fuckin stupid. you say you hate gay people, rather than you hate their beleifs or ideas. I know i hate bush, but does that mean i hate people that like bush?? absolutely not, ya know why, because im not a closed minded person. i could have a friend that is gay, i dont, but i could if he was a good guy. Just because somebody beleives in something different doesnt mean that you should hate them. maybe next time you should say that you hate their philosofies.

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everybody that will be old enough to vote needs to realize that we need to get our dictator bush out of office, he is an ignorant fuck, and cant string together a sentence to save his life. he cant se that there are ways around war, and he needs to be gone

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i like your award idea crystal... it gave me a good laught just to see it all of a sudden...

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
no i am not indecisive, there is just not a right or wrong, good or bad, ys or no to anything in this world. abortion for example. liberals are pro-choice, conservative pro-life. me? well i cant say either. if a girl is raped and becomes pregnant or molested and becomes pregnant, then how after something like this could a girl have to give labor to someone who took advantage of her but on the other hand i disagree with abortion for people who were too lazy too put on a condom or get an abortion because they are careless and immature.

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highfly your being a relativist, which is pretty indecisive. your saying relative to someone situation something is right or wrong. and as for that stuff about people feeling they need to fit in, they do so get used to. everybody wants to be apart of something eventually only youths who think they are different feel the need to assert themselves as individuals.

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'Liberal' and 'conservative', etc, are useful words to have around... otherwise we'd all have to come up with our own names for our beliefs. I would say I'm a liberal... that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have the same views and ideas as the next liberal you talk to. It just happens because humans like to seperate into 'camps' or whatever you want to call them, which also makes sense from a political stance since there can only be so many parties and candidates.

I personally have a bunch of pretty strange ideas... but I also happen to be pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and against Bush's policies and the wars in Afghanistan/Iraq. I don't think of myself as a liberal because those around me are (in fact, some more rabid liberals irritate me as much as fundamentalist conservatives because neither appear to think about their views before preaching them)... I think of myself as a liberal because out of the political parties most likely to carry some of my opinions into presidential office/other positions of power, I agree with the general 'liberal' point of view more.

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'Let me tell you a little secret... conservaive and liberal arent political parties. now that we have that under control, would you like to rephrase your statement?'

more proof to my theory that a primary conservative tactic is belittling and discrediting their opponents by either making them sound like cracks, idiots, or radicals all the while dodging the issue at at hand. I'd be a millionare if I had a dollar for every time I've seen it happen.

My two cents... I think the words liberal and conservative get thrown around like racial epitaphs...

They've really become derogatory names for two groups of people with infinite variences in their own respective ideologies. Which is in a sence what I think Ice-is-scary was getting at.

These days it seems focus mainly on the word liberal. Case in point, the republicans blabbering as loud as possible about Kerry being the most LIBERAL member of the senate, you know they weren't saying that to try and bolster his image. Then ad to that the endless drum beat of Rush and O'Riely and all their wanna-bes and you'll soon have yourself a LIBERAL witch hunt.

LIBERAL is anything but a dirty word. Lets not forget that America was founded on LIBERAL ideas; 'Give me your poor, your weak, your hungry...' Those ideas got us here over the course of 200 years, so 'liberal' can't really be THAT bad.

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