Congratulations America!!!!

More Facts for those too lazy to look them up for themselves:

-Less than 3000 Died on September 11th

-Death toll is in the THOUSANDS already

-Property damage in the Billions

-Entire towns wiped out

-Mississippi Power reported 167,000 of its 195,000 customers without service Friday.

-Entergy had 137,705 without service and expected further outages from weakened tree limbs while crews restored power lines. Of the company's 410,000 customers, more than 300,000 saw the power out at the peak of the storm.

-ON SATURDAY, BUSH ORDERED MORE THAN 7, 000 ACTIVE DUTY FORCES TO THE REGION AND 10, 000 NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS WERE BEING SENT TO THE GULF COAST. ALL TOTAL, THE NUMBER OF GUARD PERSONNEL IN THE STRICKEN STATES IS ABOUT 40, 000.

-America under the Bush Administration has donated more to the Global Relief Fund for AIDS than ALL OTHER COUNTRIES COMBINED and has committed 10 BILLION dollars over 5 years

-Americans are not hated by Iraqis

-Insurgents are almost entirely foreign nationals

-National Guard and Reserve Units have been activated and sent to New Orleans

The internet is a powerful tool that contains information and can be used for things other than watching ski videos, buying more material goods, and finding porn. While the internet is one of the last places for free speech it is important that this right is not abused by those willing to undermine their credibility with rash and unfounded statements.

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

-Voltaire
 
quoting jimi821: Insurgents are mainly foreign nationals.

Exactly. what we don't realize is there is an endless flow of insurgents coming down from Syria and Iran. This war is rediculously like vietnam. we'll never be able to stop the flow of terrorists coming down from Syria and Iran, the sooner we get out the better. Otherwise a lot of Americans will be dying for a LONG time

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Dude, seriously. That is the exact type of arrogance that really irritates people. Why does it fucking matter if he lives in the US or not? A person from another country has the same right to an opinion as someone living in America. If you disagree with that, you may proceed to forfeit any of your opinions about other nations.

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The reason People hate America falls into one of three categories:

1) Ignorance

2) Jealousy

3) Bad experience with some arrogant, brash, egotistical American(s)

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

-Voltaire
 
or a historical beef with the USA acting unilaterally.

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Honestly, who throws a shoe?
 
^I was about to say... how about

4) Offensive foreign policy?

or

5) Government statements and posturing reflecting #3?

In fact, numbers 1 and 2 on your list sort of applied to #3. Quite interesting, I thought. No, we're not "jealous" of the USA. I'm quite happy not to be American.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
yeah, i don't know about canada, but i think all of them apply to france, at least in my experience... but it is in no way limited to the three originally mentionned.

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Honestly, who throws a shoe?
 
Is Michael Moore Using his Millions to help get people out, or is he going to tape them and say this is Bush's Fault?

There's no honor in taking that after school job at Mickey Dee's, honor's in the dollar, kid
 
all you kids say fuck Michael Moore, etc,etc, are hilarious. First, if you've seen any of his earlier work you would realize he actually makes intellegent films. F911 was a bias movie for sure, and some of the things in it were skewed. Ok...it was only a fucking movie!!!! Michael Moore makes a film depicting a different side of the Sept 11 attacks and Iraq and people flip shit.....yet out president lies to us about why we are invading a country that results in the death of almost 2,000 Americans and 50,000+ Iraqis??? Where is the logic in that? I just don't get it. Moore is a film makers, shows his opinions, whatever, but to say fuck him for showing a different side to that war in Iraq is ignorant. It isn't like the Bush Administration is showing us a truer picture of what is really happening....

Now about katrina.....WTF?! You guys says fuck Michael Moore while his whole letter makes extremely valid points. Bush didn't even stop his vaction until 2 days after katrina hit. Wow....he sure seemed concerned about the 120,000 black people who were to poor to get out of NO on their own. That fact that it took a week to get some people food and water is pathetic. Just a joke.

Nice preperation as well. they had tons of time to prepare for this...yet after Katrina hit it was a total Clusterfuck. It sure gives me hope to know how prepared out Gov't was for this, but sadly terrorist don't give us so much of a warning.

And saying the 9/11 was the worst "disaster" in US history is again stupid. You need to learn some vocab and learn the difference between a terrorist attack and a natural disaster. Quite different. 9/11 was horrible, no doubt. but comparing the two doesn't really work. It is completely possible that the death toll for Katrina will excede 9/11, at the moment that really have no idea. As far as comparing the destruction between 9/11 and Katrina....are you stupid? Do you have any concept of what matter or space or size is?! Possibly losing a major US city plus all the smaller towns that are COMPLETELY destroyed vs. 4 planes, 2 110 story buildings, and a part of the pentagon?? I'm sorry, but Katrina was a tad bit more destructive......

The fact is the president has again let the US down. The effects of Katrina could easily match those of 9/11. We'll just have to wait and see. Sadly for Bush, though, Katrina has given him no reason to invade another sovreign country. Hopefully people will get past this bullshit about moore making films having some qualities of propaganda and start worry about how the President reacted to the millions of people who just had their lives destroyed or severly damaged while he spent his time in other parts of the coutnry worrying about, apparently, far more important things. If any of you were from NO I'm sure you would be wondering the same thing.....

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It’s possible to lay blame, but Moore does in the worst way possible. Making arguments like he does in his letter wouldn’t get you through a basic college composition class.

If you are going to blame Bush, be sure to blame every president before him that has been in office since New Orleans became a US city. Also blame the Mayors, city planners, Governors of Louisiana, etc...also blame Homeland Defense, the list goes on and on.

For Christ’s sake, If blame is going to be passed around look at the whole history and why things went the way they did. Blaming it on one person is ignorant. You are a dumbass if you attribute it all to one person.

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I'm pretty sure no reasonable person is going to disagree with the notion that it's more than a little ridiculous to blame the president for the effects of a natural disaster. And to be perfectly honest I tend to expect blunders in handling this sort of thing. Having everything go perfectly is fairly unrealistic. Saying forces that could have helped were diverted because of the gian cluster-fuck that is Iraq is absolutely obvious... but again, was Bush of 2003 supposed to weigh the possibility of New Orleans being wiped off the map by a hurricane into the decision making process regarding a war halfway across the world? It's not like he could have predicted this would happen. In some way, yes, it's his fault... but it just ends up being indirect reasoning and as much as I agree with a lot of what Mike Moore said here, the argument itself is cheap and thin-seeming. This is the kind of thing where the left-wingers (the rational ones, anyway) want to disassociate themselves from the argument and a lot of... mentally underpriveliged... right wingers take it as an opportunity to make broad, sweeping claims about "liberals" and "America haters". Arguments like this are dangerous that way. And I don't think Mike is helping his own political "side" in any way here.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
MM has not helped his side much, because out of choice he chooses to be the "anti Bush" and not a solution in himself. so while his jabs are reasoned to some extent, he goes over board in the Bush bashing for little help from his own side.

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Honestly, who throws a shoe?

 
I don't blame just one person. The Governer of Louisiana and homeland security it also to be at blame. They also didn't do their jobs. But this wasn't about their fuck up, but our President's fuck ups. If we were discussing what happened and should have happened preparing and dealing with Katrina this would be a different conversation. But we were taling about how Bush was not being a responsible president in his reaction to katrina.

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well it's like this guy is chillin down there in new zealand talking about how everyone hates America, while we're going threw the worst natural disaster the western hemisphere has ever experienced. now do you see why his statements kinda pissed me off?

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More Facts:

Natural Disasters are handled by the states and FEMA

Previous presidents have done little more than fly over previous natural disasters such as Hurricane Andrew and the Mississipi River floods of 1993 because being PUSA doesn't give you the ability to walk on water.

The majority of the military doesn't train to handle natural disasters

Being poor and without transportation was not the major reason that people failed to evacuate, but rather being to stubborn to realize that a hurricane was coming that was going to flood your below sea level coastal city

Michael Moore is a filmmaker not a politician and has as much political clout as any other celebrity

The majority of Americans get their ideas and opinions from the media

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

-Voltaire
 
Unfortunately, I think very little of non-constructive finger pointing. That includes blaming only one person. What good does that do? It’s just another vague critique of a much more complex situation. Some people argue “Moore is just telling it like it is. Despite being bias, he is bringing the issue into focus and that is what’s important.� Bullshit. One-sided or narrow-focused criticism “enlightens� no one. The “audience� has just as little knowledge with the issue as before. Its just a horse of a different color and nothing more. All more did was tint the looking glass.

It also irritates me that Moore plays with heartstrings to make people angry about an issue. Anger clouds good judgement, and good decision making. Anger is a very dangerous motivator because it promotes irrational actions. Moore’s anger-drive is a poison. Period.

Moore wants to blame Bush and Bush only. That’s incredibly shortsighted and naive. Go after FEMA. Go after Homeland Defense, go after Bush, go after everyone who at any point was in charge or in a position to make commands or decisions. Why didn't the Louisiana and Mississippi governments call in the state guard? Is it not Moore business to do this? That’s 31 flavors of crap. If he can call out Bush, he can call out everyone else...but he chooses not to for reasons he never discloses.

Of course he won’t go after the other parts of the equation...why do that when its easier to go after someone you already know and hate? Or how about contemplating the perspective or possible justification of his opposition? Thats way to hard for him. Why try to offer a solution or alterative...when its easier to say “HE DID IT!� Queue the non-constructive-anti-Bush rants. God forbid he actually does some real work.

Moore’s methods are juvenile. Get the whole truth not just a fraction...I guarantee you will feel like a better person.

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I think we are ignoring what is being said on one of the most enlightening programs on television (which is in the host's own opinion quite troubling) The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He makes fun of all sides and we should listen to what people like him and other independent news sources have to say. Remember the news is brought to you by huge corporations that push their agenda through their owned media outlets including your newspaper, television, magazines, and even your cable news stations.

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

-Voltaire
 
That’s not entirely true. Look at NBC. They are a notoriously left leaning network. They are owned by General Electric, on the world’s largest companies. The upper tier of GE are mostly conservatives Bush supporters.

Its an overused myth to consider independent media sources to be more balanced than the corporate networks. Who says they are less influenced. They can be controlled just as easily as the mainstream. Keep in mind that the mainstream gets information faster too.

Take both with a grain of salt.

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Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahhahaha... Worst natural... haahahahahaha... No. Not close. Ever heard of those things called "earthquakes"?

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
Jesus Christ! My last post was riddled with mistakes. I could sure use an “edit post� option.

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Yep. There have been many huge disasters in the Western Hemisphere.

Like the colossal Chilean earthquake/tsunami disaster in 1960.

Or the 1985 Volcano disaster of Nevado del Ruiz in Columbia? It claimed the lives of 25,000 people.

Or the rain-caused landslides that hit Venezuela in 1999? The death toll is still undetimind, but conservative estimates say 30,000 deaths.

Or Hurricane Mitch in Honduras and Nicaragua? 10,000 people were dead and 2 million left homeless.

A 7.8 earthquake at Mount Huascaran, Peru in 1970. It cased massive avalanches that buried two towns and killed as many as 20,000 people.

The 1902 eruption of Mont Pelée in Martinique, killed nearly 30,000 people.

In 1780, the Caribbean is hit by what was called "The Great Hurricane." It killed 22,000 people on the islands of Martinique, St. Eustatius, and Barbados.

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the mayor of new orleans is as much to blame. he called the late evacuation and didn't offer the resources to the vast majority of people that don't possess a car due to N.O. superior public transity system and also that some can't afford it.

they mayor called the evacuation the day before just to keep the casinos open.

anyways while all this was going down and watching what resembled third world africa only with concrete buildings on cnn, i was getting ready to go to one of the many clubs in cancun. hahaaaa

 
You see how powerful facts make your argument people?

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

-Voltaire
 
Not even in the United States... back at the turn of the 20th century there was a large flood that killed somewhere between 5 and 10 thousand people. Hell, go as far back as pompeii... Vesuvius killed over 3000 in 79 A.D. and has killed many more since in later seismic events. Yes, this is a tragedy, but peoples' penchant for overdramatization is ridiculous.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
Actually buddy, it is the largest recorded in size, not people killed. And by size i mean the number of people it effected, as well as area

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"Affected"? What the hell does that mean? Can you be more vague? Hell, it "affected" me, I'm here typing stuff about it. No, "worst" tends to mean the cost, and cost in lives is the worst kind.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
Oh sure, those aren’t even big ones. Here are a couple natural disasters that are just staggering...

In 1596, China was rocked by an earthquake that killed 830,000 people in the Shansi Provence.

The deadliest earthquake in history happened in 1201 along the Mediterranean sea. Historical accounts suggest that approximately 1.1 million people were killed.

...and this is just the stuff that has survived in recorded history. Imagine what has escaped human records.

But yes, I think its overdramatized.

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Nope. This doesn’t hold a candle compared to Chile 1960.

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or you could stop playing the stupid card, by effected i mean people that had to leave their homes behind, everything they've ever known. was that seriously so vague that you didn't know what i was talking about when i said effected? cause if it was...i'm really sorry

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Are you guys seriously trying to shirk the hugeness of this by weighing this up against shit that happened tens, hundreds of years ago, when emergency services did not exist or were not available? This is 2005, and that slippery slope does not wash. Unless you can have it tilted the other way. "Remember Nagasaki? The Ice Age? Just be happy this wasn't as bad as THAT!" "The media is overblowing things, it tends to do that - I mean that 9/11 business, it didn't even kill as many people as the Holocaust, but count on the media to RUN with it!" Either you are trying way too hard to be objective, or you are such a die-hard supporter of government that you forget that after 9/11 the government encouraged people, "not to be objective, this time - only pure anger and vengeance will suffice for a tragedy like this."

I'm actually past being shocked by the NS disconnect to the situation (there are effectively zero black or certifiably poor ppl in an ski magazine, this site, whatever) but don't be so flat-out fucking reaching. This is human life. This is 2005.

 
I mean you guys have such an overwhelming entitlement mentality you took the time to be outraged abt 'the man' cancelling some stupid fucking idea to build a ski jump in the dead of San Francisco summer, but this is not really big a deal as they're making it out to me. OK. I'm going to the lake and maybe I can catch some wakeboarders complaining about their stupid fucking dad not being there to drive their stupid fucking SPEEDBOAT

 
I don't know about anybody else, but I think what I was trying to get at there was the implication that because it happened in "America the hegemonic 21st century superpower at whose feet the world should grovel", peoples' lives are somehow more important and therefore this is OMG TEH WORST THING EVAR. As for our readiness as a community to feel for the victims, I think we all do to some extent, but the media coverage focussing on the "everybody's looting, usually tragedy brings out the worst in people but apparently not this time" angle doesn't help, and to be honest, neither does the melodramatic attitude of a lot of americans. It seems like every time something happens to the USA it IS compared to a past event as being, in this case, "Our hiroshima", and if something happens elsewhere, like the London bombings, it's suddenly all about the USA... "So Wolf, what have kind of impact have the London bombings had on opinion polls here at home? Let's talk about 9/11 for an hour and a half." You don't see the Spanish people looking at London and saying "Well, WE had the Atocha bombings", do you? When you talk about overdramatization, you kind of have to look at the root cause of it, and a lot of it is sensationalism on the part of the media that extends to an almost nationalist-propagandistic plane. This kind of response to New Orleans isn't limited to this site, I've spoken to a number of people from various countries in Europe and Asia and seen much of the same... 300,000 dead in Burundi barely registered for most of your population, but this gets 24 hour news coverage for a week? Why? Because it'll sell... On some level it's apalling and cheapening and, unfortunately, it makes people not want to care. I shut it off last thursday and haven't watched a minute of coverage since. I couldn't care less how the white house wants us to shape our perspectives on tragedies, I'm perfectly capable of shaping my own, and I'm not sure when "objective" became a bad thing to be.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
on another note, correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the 1906 san fransisco earthquake similar in number of people killed and displaced?

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Honestly, who throws a shoe?

 
almostaskier:

Only 478 deaths were reported at the time of the earthquake. Modern estimates range from 3000 to 6000.

I agree with JD. It’s all about perspective. It really is selfish to think that this is one the worst disasters ever. I’m not trying to “shrink� the size of anything. I’m not saying that it isn’t terrible, or that its not a huge disaster, I’m saying its overplayed by to many people. You are damn right I’m being objective. The only way to keep a level head in life is to be objective.

Les, so you think I’m not sympathetic just because I’m not “touchy felly� with this whole thing? I donated $300 to the Red Cross. Suck on that.

You think I’m just rushing to support anything the US government says? Thats a straw-man argument if I ever heard one.

And your post about the San Francisco ski jump is totally off topic. I find it ironic that you are playing “holier-than-you,� but you have the balls to lump everybody into one group. DON’T FUCKING STEREOTYPE! If you want to strike one of my nerves, generalizing is the best way to do it.

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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at the risk of going completely off-topic... what then hell happened with logistics in this tragedy??

this report (by Geraldo of all people) is absolutly incredible. It seems as though that there was absolutely no disaster plan. an oversight?

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-Colmes-Smith-Rivera-freak-in-NO.mov

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Hahahahaha... the url says "Hannity Colmes Smith Rivera"... this I HAVE to see.

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"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
i mean and that was 6 days after it hit (on friday i think)... everyone was looking for the federal government to take charge of the situation.. but nobody seemed to either want to take charge or care to. It then evolved into chaos and the whole situation was symbolized by a flyby by the President on vacation 2 days afterwards.

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here's a quote about the interview...

"When a network like Fox can't prevent its reporters from speaking the truth, you have to know the situation is so much worse than we've been told. Geraldo was crying, Shep Smith looked like he wanted to drive a knife thorough Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes. How frustrating for them to watch reality get trumped by spinned photos of supply-laden ships arriving. The reality is that 12 hours after those ships arrived, nothing has changed for those in lock-down at the convention center or exiled on a highway"

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This one is definitely worth watching. Harsh, but hey... it's direct. Olbermann's a bit of a nutjob, apparently (if you remember he recently declared Rush Limbaugh the worst person in the world... not that that isn't debatable, but... Osama's out there somewhere.)

... But anyway, this was SCATHING.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Olbermann-Blasts-on%20-Katrina.wmv

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

"Most guys know that women dig guys with money. Would Donald Trump be fucking models if he wasn't rich? That question is rhetorical. Now I don't even believe this is wrong, I think it is just nature. But I also think women who are this way (and it is almost all of you) should be honest and admit that they are basically whores, and stop saying bad things about the so-called "actual whores" who are just trying to earn an honest living."
 
wow.. that's a great rant, on msnbc too..

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oh my goodness... that interview so heart gripping... i cannot believe the TV hosts on that...

thank you for finding this.

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Honestly, who throws a shoe?

 
I'm not pushing 'touchy-feeliness' - I just don't BUY the Critical Distance act right now, from anyone. This is a situation that is going to be spinned, overblown left right and center and you guys are treating it like sharp incisive social commentary that you NOTICE this - maybe I worded this wrong: it's good to be objective, but not to SEEM objective. If this changes things, LET IT be overblown, since so much else has been swept under in the most mind-twistingly transparent ways.

Quinny, you're right, the ski jump comment was a bit off color and tangential - and probably speaking to something else in me that's just angry with the nature of ski kids in general - but you still parse my shit badly, like I give a fuck if I 'push your buttons', or that I actually wrote 'shrink', or if you keep telling me that ass + door quote over and over again, or that you advertise your philanthropy.

I'm just getting angrier and angrier as this goes on, guys, and I guess I should keep it under control - but this all looks kinda like a 2nd-yr media studies class - I thought EVERYONE following this had seen those clips days ago. I actually got mad at my little brother for not keeping close enough track, so maybe I am too into this.

 
And as much as I hate to admit it, I'm a total hypocrite on one thing: I talk about the put-on critical distance thing because I have done it so many times myself to seem like the one who is clearly weighing it all out, qualifying statements with any padding available, when really I'm pushing ideas way more personal and specific - so when I vent on that shit it's because I recognize it so sharply from my own BS. For some reason this is changing me.

 
quinny, your the man hahaha, okay uh i dont even know where to start, i guess with the whole you guys being mad at bush thing because of the levees (sp), clinton had 8 years or whatever to do that shit and he didnt, so why the blame for bush? and um moore is a jackass, i guess thats about it, i'm better at backing myself up so someone just say i'm wrong and i'll wreck your ass later.

-kulpy-

gangsta raps lyrics are all the same, Someone gets shot, someones frontin, someones a wangsta, someones benchpressin, someones makin fried chicken, and the beans dont burn on the grill. You can see that shit in kentucky. Fuck the bronx, deep south bitches-scientist
 
Go ahead. Cool off. You’ve been making this thread personal since your first post (or at least it “SEEMs� that way). Being an antagonist doesn’t impress many people.

I get the feeling you are picking a battle that really isn’t there. I haven’t been distancing myself from this at all. Nor have I been acting nonplused. So what if you don’t “BUY� what I am doing? I’m not trying to fool anybody. Oh, and you can drop the “I know because I’ve been there� mentality with your critical distance. You are venting at me because your know what you own BS smells like? Frankly, I think your Bull Shit Detector © is broken.

And what so bad about “SEEMING� objective? I rather not come off as polarizing myself on everything, thank you. I also refuse to get swept up in much of the excess crap that comes with events like this...the emotions, oversimplifications, blame, and other bullshit like that. I will look and interpret the world as I damn well please, and not be sidetracked by filler.

Go ahead, keep getting angrier and angrier. Acting "high and mighty" doesn’t help. A little restraint wouldn’t kill you.

I’ve had my fill of this thread.

Peace.

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-Apple

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

**Proud member of the d-loc fanclub**
 
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