Comparing bush with hitler is purpoustrous.

"if you think you are more rightous then anyone else"

"if you vote for GW over Kerry, that makes you a scumbag."

You are saying your vote is more righteous than another vote. You indeed are contradicting yourself and showing us what is wrong with modern democracy.
 
that is ridiculous, bush is not and has never been evil, he just makes bad decisions. He means the best, hes just dumb.

 
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Oh course it doesn't fully compare to out government. I'd love to see anyone try and install a totalitarian dictatorship in the U.S. haha. I only said that elements of the patriot act represent some fascist ideals. I never said our government was fascist. But if people had their way... who knows?

 
I really dont understand. maybe you can help me out with that. I know what the goldent wheelchair is, but why is that a good nominee?
 
speeches and how they carry themselfs can be so fucking fake. thats why it doesnt matter. what does, is their actual views. that and that alone should matter when it comes to a president.
 
americans need to watch the daily show more. your worrying about what the world thinks of americans? i would think that you'd already know the answer to that
 
Meh, he has some interesting views, but he needs to stop the election thing and try a new tactic.

And I've seen more than a few candidates here for the GW award. Too bad its done, those were good times.
 
Holy crap yes! What "era" are YOU talking about anyways?

Wanna know a "Hitler" of this "era"? Robert Mugabe! The Ugandan government sponsoring the Lord's Republican Army (kids raping and killing other kids for racial reasons)!

Come on man!
 
absolutely unfair. i dont like bush in the least, but thats like comparing a water pistol to a machine gun. hitler was far brighter than bush is, but he used his intelligence in a different way. this comparison cant be made.
 
BUT BUsh spies on your phone calls!!!!1!1!!1 hes EVi;l!@!@!11!! 9/11 is a govmnt plot by buSh tro kill america!!!111! hes homosexual life partners w/ bin laden! vbush doesnt catre bout america!!!11!!! hes fashhhissssyt! nbomg you republican are soooooooooooo stu[piud!1!!
 
ethnic cleansings aside, bush is responisble for the largest number of non-combatant deaths in recent years, i personally know for a fact that US marines shoot pretty much everything that comes near them
 
im not saying i do but i know alot of people who hate americans coz they think that they r arrogant i dont thats just stereotypical. imj sure none of them would compare bush to hitler though
 
Oh shit, again with the "ethnic cleansing aside" argument!

Ill take a mine, but take the charge out of it, and the detonator, and the metal stuff, and then ill compare a mine to a puppy, since they are both harmless!

And what is it you mean by "recent years"? Remember Milosevic? Kosovo? 1999?

Most non-combatant deaths in the world too? Are we forgetting AIDS and cancer? But you probably meant war-time collateral damage. Point taken, although warfare in Africa (LRA and other such things) are way up there aswell.

Let's stop demonizing Bush. No one is glorifying the war, it's a disaster. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Ask your grandparents and great grandparents if THEY think that Bush is tantamount to Hitler. I'd expect you to get slapped and taken out of their will on causes of "sheer ignorance".
 
Then you must obviously know that most of the people the marines fight are dressed in civilian clothing. In Iraq, you have to judge everyone. Anyone could have a bomb strapped under them ready to blow.

You're pretty fucking ignorant and I suggest that you stop posting in this thread.
 
no shit i do know that i also know that men women and children are equal over there, that anyone could have that bomb, fuck dude i have friends and family there, i have seen families american and iraqi torn apart by this war, marines coming home and shooting up their neighborhood because they have been so mind fucked since they got there, how dare you call me ignorant when i have seen this first hand not on fox, i don't even watch american news anymore it's censored. im not gunna bull shit you with sad stories about u.s. soldiers and iraqi civillians in iraq, but you're a pretty cold hearted fucking person to say "shoot everyone that comes close" and i cannot fucking believe that if you went there and came back that you would be the same person what so ever. get a fucking clue dude, war isn't a good thing no matter what so yes i say bush is the comparable to hitler of this era why? hitler didn't just kill jews, he over took countries to use their natural resources, to make his counry stronger, what is the iraqi occupation all about? im not saying bush is a mass murderer, i'm saying that bush and hitler both have common interests in expanding their influence world wide using force, not diplomacy
 
You lack perspective and are too quick to conclude that a connection exists, let me tell you why:

_ Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and he killed millions of innocent people in camps specially created for that purpose (Auschwitz being the largest with at least 1 million killed there, their numbers) and worked millions of others to their death creating missiles, roads and bom shelters (Dora mines).

You dismiss this by saying "oh yeah, besides that". It's a pretty huge "that" to set aside. In contrast, the people that Bush has killed due to this war (if we're putting all the blame on one man, like with Hitler) have been combatants (you expect this) and collateral to the war (ie, not intended) and are due to the nature of the war itself. You can't carpet bomb a place you know is housing the insurgents without civilian casualties (especially because the insurgents pick heavily populated areas to hide, using the innocent as human shields to get following for their cause. Which is worse?). The USA has yet to round up an entire town and shoot all of the inhabitants with no regard for anything moral. That there have been immoral actions, yes. But they are isloated, and not a trademark of the USA. The Nazis however...

That the war was unfounded and pushed forwards based on lies, fine. We're not discussing that, we're comparing two "war mongerers"

_ Secondly, Hitler's attempt to take over the world vs Bush's. It's tough to not come across as condescending, but come on man, it is NOTHING like it. Hitler started getting his lebensraum with areas east of germany, then the now Check Republic, then Poland, then France with everything in between (Belgium, Holland, Lux.), then attempted taking over England, and tried to take over Russia... He was going after all of his allies, and major world powers (England was a if not THE force to be reconed with, as the USA was supposedly neutral). He didn't go after little countries really far from where he lived. He tried to take over everything around him, and when he did, that became part of Germany, or a german protectorate. He was destroying everyone around him to in effect take over Europe and then some.

In contrast, Bush is doing nothing of the sort. We're attacking Irak, far far away from the USA, maybe for oil, or maybe for a genuine conscern for the WMD's being sold to terrorist and which have since been moved to syria, or both, or neither. Irak is not going to be the 51st state of the USA, we're trying to pull out, not stay and control the country. The army is not going to then invade saudi arabia, Iran (well ok, maybe), egypt, syria (again, eeeehhh)... you get the point.There is not a blitzkrieg going on or a massive offensive. If Bush was trying to be Hitler he's failed, and im sure Himmler is appauled at the comparison. The Germans had plans to take over Europe. The USA doesn't even have a plan to get out like they would like.

_Finally, Bush and Hitler do and did want to expand their influence world wide... That's what ANY leader of a powerful country wants to do. You say by using force, so then you are saying their methods are the same. They aren't. No offensive is currently being held, and the USA is trying to bring stability to a region in perhaps the worst way possible, but not in any sort of Hitler style.

Dude, ask your grandparents of great granbdparents if THEY, who would know, if Bush is acting like Hitler.
 
you have made some good points, and while bush isn't hitler's twin you must admit that there are some resemblences, and mi(scratch) instead of just ripping apart everyone else's post why don't you bring up some good reasons for the war, no WMD bull shit, cause there weren't there
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the point of this thread was to justify the war, but rather to discuss whether the comparison between Hilter and Bush is justified. It certainly seems that the most organized ideas are in support of the thread maker, despite his disregard for the english language. And I don't think that there is any justification to compare the two beyond a few minor similarities. Keep in mind that every human being shares 99.9% of thier DNA so logically there will be some common motives for both Hitler and Bush's actions. However, it is clear that they do not have the same goal of global domination and genocide of massive perportions, nor is Bush making any effort to expand the United States at the moment.
 
im not discounting hitlers intensely sinster nature patty, but the man was brilliant. read the book "the wave" sometime, it talks about a teacher who conducted an in classroom experiment along the lines of hitler's "aryan society" (minus the killing and violence of course. hitler literally found out a way to brainwaash an entire nation into believing that simple hereditary traits such as blond hair and blue eyes were the determining mark of a more advanced person. hitler literally- not figuratively- hypnotized an entire nation
 
First of all, I never said shooting everyone up close was justified. You are the only one that even used those words. Get a clue.

Second of all, this war is nothing compared to what troops went through in WWI, WWII, and Vietnam.

Could you please answer me this. What "resources" and "countries" have we "taken over". I'm sure you could answer this because you are oh so smart.

"what is the iraqi occupation all about?"

Why are you asking me this? I would like to know the answer since your use of rhetorical questions only benefits my side of the argument. It's not for oil, because we haven't seen a drop of it from Iraq.
 
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