Coming to Japan This Year?

MitchPee

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So you finally did it and committed to buying that round-trip ticket to Japan. Awesome, you'll most likely get good snow and at the very least eat great food! Here are some things to help you, humble you, and hopefully fill you full of stoke.

I've been going to Japan to work as a guide for 5 years now. Through the generosity of other people and some crazy good luck, this country has given me more than I could ever ask for and some that I never did. Don't ask me for a job I can't give people jobs. Anyways this isn't about me, it's about Japow.

Some cultural things to know about Japan-

It is a very passive culture. You could be stepping on someone's toe and they will keep smiling at you while you cause them great pain. Don't worry if you disrespect their culture they will just take it out on those of us who try to live and work there, so please don't do that!

*Most ski tourism areas are not going to require you to take your shoes off, but the majority of Japanese people remove their shoes before entering ANYTHING considered to be someone's personal space. Sometimes, that is a small business, home, etc. Please be conscious of this at all times

*Yes, Japanese girls tend to be attracted to foreign guys. You know what Japanese girls aren't attracted to? Drunk foreign teenagers/tweeners belting out pick up lines in a language they can't understand. Don't be that guy.

*On that note, try and learn a bit of the language before coming. Most likely, you have a 20 hour flight. Learn the difference between Kawaii and Kowaii. People absolutely love it if you try, even if you butcher the words. Give it a go.

*Things are punctual here. If you tell a taxi to meet you at a certain time, be outside at that time. Maybe even 3-5 minutes early because the driver will probably be there, gloves on ready to assist you.

*All you can eat and drink does exist. Does it mean you should try to fit all the alcohol you can drink into 2 hours? I have seen many people do this and very few walk away with dignity or a memory of their last night in Japan. Don't you think of all the thousands you spend on a trip you would want to remember a fun night out on the town?

*You are not a novelty, especially if you are going for skiing. If I had a dollar for hearing about the times someone said that other foreigners in a place ruined their pure authentic experience of Japanese culture I would be a very rich person. Look, Japan is still a very unique place with a very undiluted culture, but you're not going to be the only ones there. If you want that, go check out Kyrgyzstan, Karakoram, or North Korea.

*The food here IS that good. Slopeside ramen, boat-fresh sushi, made-with-love sake, it all exists! It's also all there to enjoy at a reasonable price. Search high and low for places. Sometimes if you get out away from the mainstream enough, you will be turned away as a foreigner because the establishment can't speak English and doesn't want to play point the finger and bring out something you "didn't order" game. Don't take it personally, accept it and move on. Also, this can be racially motivated. Racism exists everywhere, even Japan. Although very rare, I have experienced a few occasions of it.

*Rules are still rules. If there's a sign (especially one in English), that says DO NOT SKI ON THESE AVY BARRIERS, guess what? Don't ski on the god damned avy barriers! The thing about these signs is they never existed until a couple years ago. People started to flood over the avy barriers, hanging out in the road that's iced over and dangerous for people who are driving. There are still lots of avy barriers that are off the busy roads or pillows in the forest to jib on.

*Although Hokkaido and most of Japan has a very docile snowpack when compared to that of Europe and North America, people still die here. Last year I watched one of the most experienced snow-science people I have ever worked with and a guide out of Canmore, Alberta, get ripped through some trees on a pretty serious slide. Luckily, our heli operation is in the area and we were able to assemble a 5 man team to DRAG this guy through a series of streams and chest deep powder with a shattered leg and elbow. After about 5 hours, we were able to get him out and by some miracle he didn't sustain life-altering injuries.

The same goes for a Canadian girl going out with a party, who was studying a PHD in snow science at the University of Calgary, on what we would rate a High danger day. They skied a slope that was so obviously ridden with depth hoar, it's a miracle that only the girl broke her back and lived when she got carried 1,000 feet down the face.

Think about this being you. Laying there probably not having a cell phone work in Japan. Nobody or maybe just one other person knows you're there. You have a broken leg and can't move and it's dumping snow on top of you. The weather changes here faster than most places in the world due to its proximity to the ocean and large volumes of rapid moving moisture. It can be bluebird on a peak one minute, and dumping snow the next. You always have to know where you are. Several times last year there were close calls with people of all nationalities in this area being lost overnight and caught in slides. Almost every time it's someone new to the area and unaware of the local terrain. I can't stress enough how quickly this happens and how easy it is to get lost in this very confusing terrain.

There is no reliable snow forecast in this area. You cannot go to UAC, CAIC, etc to receive a detailed forecast from a credible source. Every morning at Black Diamond Tours, we do an internal forecast. If you are curious and in the area please message me and I will try to relay the general information. Otherwise stay tuned to our facebook page as I do not check messages on here that often in the winter. Again, the weather is very micro-climated and fast changing. So what is true for Niseko isn't necessarily true for Kiroro.

Obviously, as a guide, I am a bit biased. I believe we know the ins and outs of Japan skiing better than most people. I realize this is not an affordable option for everyone, and a lot of people on here think they know better. That's great, and if I meet you out on the town, I will likely tell you true information that will make your trip better, because I don't ski in Japan for the money. I genuinely love to see people have a good time in a place that has given me many. Hopefully, some of these tips can help you have a more smooth interaction with the Japanese and you have all my well wishes on good weather and deep snow.

Japow Jah Bless! Enjoy your trip.
 
We need more of this on ns. people who know what they are talking about talking, and people who don't shutting the fuck up. You sir are the true homie.
 
13488984:50Kal said:
Question about visa's. What's the best way to get one for Americans.

Work very hard in a particular field and reach out through Japanese societies found at most universities. Teach English is probably the easiest.

13488990:Sklar said:
I'm heading to Japan this year, and I'm STOKED

Hell yeah man hopefully see you out in the pow.
 
Great post Mitch! My girl and I were in Hakuba last year and had a great experience. We weill certainly be back.
 
This doesn't just go for Japan. It goes for everyone who goes on any vacation. People become such fucking cunts when they go on holiday. Or go skiing. Is it that hard to be nice and respect the mountain? Just have a smile on your face and don't take yourself too seriously.
 
13489570:S.J.W said:
This doesn't just go for Japan. It goes for everyone who goes on any vacation. People become such fucking cunts when they go on holiday. Or go skiing. Is it that hard to be nice and respect the mountain? Just have a smile on your face and don't take yourself too seriously.

Very true. People are usually pretty good in Japan, it's just a few spots here and there.

Story time. Last year, a Japanese friend, co-worker and I all set out to do one of the biggest amounts of vertical you can ski in Hokkaido. It was a really nice day, somewhat windy (normal), but otherwise the visiblity at 7,000 feet was good which is very rare. After about an hour from the ridge summit, we dipped back into the plateau. After that we had to basically summit one small peak, drop down the back and then do one more hour ish skin to the top of our descent. Timing was looking good, weather was looking good, we were feeling good, it was all good! About 20 minutes before we reached our last peak some low clouds blew in. Ten minutes after that it started snowing. Fifteen minutes after that I could no longer see my hand in front of my face.

At the top of the ridge we had randomly run into two locals who had never heard of the peak we were going to, so they were really interested in tagging. They knew my Japanese friend from high school and were welcomed in our group. Thank god one of them had a GPS, because that may have been the difference between getting back just post sunset, and having to snow cave in the alpine under very windy and cold conditions.

After the whiteout hit there was a pretty big flaw in communications. 3 Japanese, 1 American, and 1 Czech wandering around the alpine aimlessly. After using the GPS, we got back to the summer trail which we found the last 2 inches of a 5 foot fence sticking up, phew.

We cruised down to a nearby resort and got in our cars and had the most delicious bottle of sake and ramen I will ever eat.

It's not joke, everyone gets humbled here. Me, you, the locals, everyone. It's just a gnarly place sometimes, so we have to treat it as such.
 
I'm not but would love to sometime. Either gotta snag a job there somehow, or maybe just take a week off in the middle of the season and take a trip some time.

Someday.
 
I spent last winter working in the Niseko area and had a great winter. Really cool experience, but I was astounded by the lack of real certified guides, and a major lack of respect towards the backcountry. People hiking to the peak, skiing the back bowls without any avy gear and people getting lost. Lost of uncertified people leading groups into the backcountry and just a lot of bullshit and politics.

Please do your research when you come to Hokkaido, and make sure you talk to your guides/guiding company. Obviously not everyone is an IFMGA certified guide, but some people are guides without even having their AST1. Just because they're certified by Niseko Winter Guide Association doesn't mean they're legit.

Also please respect the niseko nightlife rules. It makes really difficult for the people that live and work there, when a bunch of foreigners are getting rowdy at wild bills or big foot and then go puke in the streets and piss all over the place.

But come to Japan, eat lots of ramen and come ski the deepest and lightest powder out there.
 
This brings me joy.

Heading out there Solo in January. Hoping I make friends fast.
 
Seriously considering japan the season after this one. I'll be going out with my girlfriend. Question about accommodation, from my small amount of research it seems like most jobs offer staff accomm? Problem is I'd be looking for a bootfitting/ski tech job and she'd most likely be looking for something in a hotel. Obviously we'd want to live together, are employers pretty willing to do some negotiating etc?

Also having done 3 seasons in Europe (france & Austria) is hokkaido still best to go to? from the sounds of it the south island generally has more vert but less snow?
 
Quick question- From the minimal amount of knowledge I have on skiing in japan, it seems that a honshu trip would be cheaper than a hokkaido trip. Is the quality of skiing on one island significantly better than the other? Or are they pretty equivalent?
 
13502687:Edward. said:
Quick question- From the minimal amount of knowledge I have on skiing in japan, it seems that a honshu trip would be cheaper than a hokkaido trip. Is the quality of skiing on one island significantly better than the other? Or are they pretty equivalent?

They are very different in terms of terrain. Honshu is very hard to break down as one entity. Hakuba and the minakami alps get more snow than Hokkaido in the upper elevations but the lower elevations receive denser pacific west ish snow. It's still great and the vertical/terrain is bigger than Hokkaido.

Hokkaido has the most continuous and lightest snowfall of any developed ski area in the world. That's not to say it doesn't rain sometimes but the chance of getting good light tree skiing powder is there. There is also some very big terrain options but it's all hiking access and usually pretty remote. This leads to hard to predict avalanche conditions.

There's really no way to say what is better than the other. I prefer Hokkaido in Jan Feb and Hakuba in March/April but hey that's just like my opinion man.
 
Got a couple days booked with Hokkaido Powder Guides while I'll be there, Stoked!
 
Hey man!

I got a question for you- I'm booked with a group of guys and we are going to ski Honshu the last week of February, we aren't into backcountry stuff- but we are looking to get that powder fill still.

We are going to do the whole van trip and I was wondering if you had any recommendations on good locations to ski! I've seen Hokkda pop up a couple times, but I'm at loss right now haha
 
13507374:MitchPee said:
They are very different in terms of terrain. Honshu is very hard to break down as one entity. Hakuba and the minakami alps get more snow than Hokkaido in the upper elevations but the lower elevations receive denser pacific west ish snow. It's still great and the vertical/terrain is bigger than Hokkaido.

Hokkaido has the most continuous and lightest snowfall of any developed ski area in the world. That's not to say it doesn't rain sometimes but the chance of getting good light tree skiing powder is there. There is also some very big terrain options but it's all hiking access and usually pretty remote. This leads to hard to predict avalanche conditions.

There's really no way to say what is better than the other. I prefer Hokkaido in Jan Feb and Hakuba in March/April but hey that's just like my opinion man.

Bump on the dope thread. I'm pretty committed to spending next winter in japan, i assume Niseko is the easiest place for foreigners to get work in either rental shops?

Whats housing like in Niseko area? is it easy to get for season rental, i've done abit of research and seems like Kutchan (sp?) has more options than Niseko itself? is it easy to get to hirafu from kutchan?
 
Good to see this thread again. This information was useful for my trip this past season, and for all those who are going for their first time next winter, use it accordingly!
 
13685445:JibbaTheHutt said:
Bump on the dope thread. I'm pretty committed to spending next winter in japan, i assume Niseko is the easiest place for foreigners to get work in either rental shops?

Whats housing like in Niseko area? is it easy to get for season rental, i've done abit of research and seems like Kutchan (sp?) has more options than Niseko itself? is it easy to get to hirafu from kutchan?

It's not all that easy to get a job. The area is saturated with tons of young Aussies so most of the bar and shop jobs are taken by them. I'd start emailing them now and make sure you get a working holiday visa.

Niseko is definitely the most foreign friendly place you can live in Kutchan, but I would make sure you live with others because the bus works but can be a bit of a pain. It's a lot easier if someone has a car. Employers will probably be able to help you with housing more so.
 
I lived in Tokyo for three months if anyone wants to know about to the bar and party scene down there too.
 
13685729:MitchPee said:
It's not all that easy to get a job. The area is saturated with tons of young Aussies so most of the bar and shop jobs are taken by them. I'd start emailing them now and make sure you get a working holiday visa.

Niseko is definitely the most foreign friendly place you can live in Kutchan, but I would make sure you live with others because the bus works but can be a bit of a pain. It's a lot easier if someone has a car. Employers will probably be able to help you with housing more so.

hmm i got the feeling it might be like that, i've got my eyes on a few places that appear to be advertising for next winter. Whats the crack with having a car for just the season, is it relatively easy to buy a car and insure it for an ok price?

i assume getting somewhere to live for the season in hirafu is pretty difficult? lots of hospitality jobs seem to mention staff accomm, not sure whether this would be in hirafu or not...
 
13686022:JibbaTheHutt said:
hmm i got the feeling it might be like that, i've got my eyes on a few places that appear to be advertising for next winter. Whats the crack with having a car for just the season, is it relatively easy to buy a car and insure it for an ok price?

i assume getting somewhere to live for the season in hirafu is pretty difficult? lots of hospitality jobs seem to mention staff accomm, not sure whether this would be in hirafu or not...

I've just come back from a season in Niseko, quite a few job offers comes with staff accommodation maybe half the jobs listed on either kutchannel (Niseko job, sale things, anything niseko) or recruitment agency's (where I found my work) can come with staff accommodation I'd say. My boss then told me jobs will be going around earlier this year due to the demand of visas has been increasing yearly (some places already looking for staff for the 16/17 season!)

What I suggest you should do is get a working Japanese visa first, all the works will look for this first when you apply for jobs and just apply which mentions staff accom in hirafu area, ask about the accom in skype interviews or emails, then you'll be in luck. I ended up working in a kitchen of a pizza restraunt which was interesting to say the least.

Also some work gives a shared work car/van which you can use freely if you need to go into town etc don't think you'll need to buy a car for just a season.
 
13686086:HappySoda said:
I've just come back from a season in Niseko, quite a few job offers comes with staff accommodation maybe half the jobs listed on either kutchannel (Niseko job, sale things, anything niseko) or recruitment agency's (where I found my work) can come with staff accommodation I'd say. My boss then told me jobs will be going around earlier this year due to the demand of visas has been increasing yearly (some places already looking for staff for the 16/17 season!)

What I suggest you should do is get a working Japanese visa first, all the works will look for this first when you apply for jobs and just apply which mentions staff accom in hirafu area, ask about the accom in skype interviews or emails, then you'll be in luck. I ended up working in a kitchen of a pizza restraunt which was interesting to say the least.

Also some work gives a shared work car/van which you can use freely if you need to go into town etc don't think you'll need to buy a car for just a season.

I've had a look and lots of places seem to say end of may to start recruitment. Annoyingly im in NZ until November so can't get my visa sorted, but i did phone the embassy in London and the fella i spoke to seemed pretty confident there would still be plenty of visas available in November. I guess i could always apply and say that i have one, i assume they dont ask for visa numbers/details during interview?

I noticed in your description it says you've worked for snowtrax, did you try and get work in ski shops in niseko or not really bother?

did you know any couple who worked for different companies but still managed to live together? this is my worry as i dont think my girlfriend could get a shop job but she's ben an assistant manager for a hotel for a while so should get a job in hospo...
 
13686188:JibbaTheHutt said:
I've had a look and lots of places seem to say end of may to start recruitment. Annoyingly im in NZ until November so can't get my visa sorted, but i did phone the embassy in London and the fella i spoke to seemed pretty confident there would still be plenty of visas available in November. I guess i could always apply and say that i have one, i assume they dont ask for visa numbers/details during interview?

I noticed in your description it says you've worked for snowtrax, did you try and get work in ski shops in niseko or not really bother?

did you know any couple who worked for different companies but still managed to live together? this is my worry as i dont think my girlfriend could get a shop job but she's ben an assistant manager for a hotel for a while so should get a job in hospo...

Yeah the visa sound alright I guess, I haven't worked at snowtrax only used to ride there alot whilst at uni. I'm not too sure about any couples that worked in different places that lived together to be honest, but the resort itself is pretty small and is own and run by group of people that knows eachother pretty damn well, like different companies actually share same staff accommodations etc.

I'm not sure what sort of jobs you are looking for but if you apply to any major comapnies in niseko like, ski japan, niseko company, ht holidays I'd reckon you'll be in luck.
 
I had a great time in Hakuba for a month, not the best year for snow but caught it on a 3 footer one day and had a few other good days as well. I fell in love with the area, as much as I want to go to Niseko Hakuba is such a cool little town with some awesome terrain.
 
13686188:JibbaTheHutt said:
I've had a look and lots of places seem to say end of may to start recruitment. Annoyingly im in NZ until November so can't get my visa sorted, but i did phone the embassy in London and the fella i spoke to seemed pretty confident there would still be plenty of visas available in November. I guess i could always apply and say that i have one, i assume they dont ask for visa numbers/details during interview?

I noticed in your description it says you've worked for snowtrax, did you try and get work in ski shops in niseko or not really bother?

did you know any couple who worked for different companies but still managed to live together? this is my worry as i dont think my girlfriend could get a shop job but she's ben an assistant manager for a hotel for a while so should get a job in hospo...

From what I've heard visas aren't that hard to get, it's not as competitive as getting a Canada visa for example.

I'm planning on heading there next winter, haven't got any work lined up yet. I'm probably gonna apply for my visa as soon as my exams finish, possibly sooner. Super hyped for this trip, November can't come soon enough.
 
Anybody worked for, or know someone who has worked for Skijapan ? i've just sent off an application to be a rental tech.

Will most likely try Rhythm aswell, i've heard good things about working for them!
 
13691362:JibbaTheHutt said:
Anybody worked for, or know someone who has worked for Skijapan ? i've just sent off an application to be a rental tech.

the owner's daughter of Skijapan goes to my school actually
 
13691362:JibbaTheHutt said:
Anybody worked for, or know someone who has worked for Skijapan ? i've just sent off an application to be a rental tech.

Will most likely try Rhythm aswell, i've heard good things about working for them!

I only just remembered the name after googling it, but had a friend working in hire with Larry Adler and he was in a shared house with other companies like vale and was located near the resort centre. Could try and get employment with them?
 
I'm really hoping to get back this year, some friends already have tickets booked, but im poor
 
13488994:MitchPee said:
Work very hard in a particular field and reach out through Japanese societies found at most universities. Teach English is probably the easiest.

Hell yeah man hopefully see you out in the pow.

Yea I've been looking into taking trip to japan before i head off to college. which resort would you recommend?
 
13723203:JibbaTheHutt said:
so who is coming to Niseko this season then? always looking for riding buddies!!

I was looking to going there, but I've never been. I would need to figure out a place to stay and everything. what do you usually do?
 
13723312:_ALPHASQUAD_ said:
I was looking to going there, but I've never been. I would need to figure out a place to stay and everything. what do you usually do?

this will be my first time there, i believe most employers provide accommodation so once you find a job the rest is sorted (other than travel)
 
In my short time there, I noticed they seem to like alcohol for breakfast. Maybe it's just at the airport, but I can get down with that

Definitely learn some language if you can.

Had a short layover in Tokyo en route to Bangkok. Flight got delayed a few hours at LAX, we missed our connecting flight in Tokyo. The people Haneda we're trying to be helpful to the best they could with the language barrier and this dude on our flight tries to lay into this lady helping us. She doesn't work for American Airlines, she didn't cause us to miss our connection but he goes off on his long list of demands what he wants for missing the flight. If you're gonna bitch you better at least speak some of the language or you're on your own

For our long ass flight from Denver-Bangkok, we bought some edibles. Were deciding "when should we eat them--before DIA,or sneak them and eat them for the flight from LAX-Tokyo. Well we chose the latter, and ate them very late on our flight having totally disregarded the fact that we had a lot of shit to figure out when we got to Tokyo at like 2AM. Blazed AF and had no idea what was going on--good times. Some of the girls were cute
 
13723506:chiefclul said:
Does anyone know when the best snowfall is in Japan? Looking to visit next year

Mid January to Late February. After that, it starts to melt quick.
 
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