Colors

JRullo

JRullo

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I have this theory that two people could look at the exact same thing say a red computer, and they could both see it as completly different colors but still call it red. Like one person could see somthing that both consider red but it might look like what the other person thinks of at blue, and what the other person thinks of as yellow. This is realy making me think, does NS have any thoughts, or know if this is true.
 
studies have been done on this.
We are all seeing the same wave lengths of light for each color and see the same thing, but how our brains interpret color can vary to a degree. Most often in blue/green shades and red orange shades since red green color blindness exists. The reason it exists is because of problems with the rods in the eyes and is genetic. People can have varying degrees of this causing somethings that have red or green so be off.
However, many studies have been done which show that people of all different cultures perceive colors the same way. Red is vivid and vibrant, blue is soothing, orange on blue stands out more than any other combination.... So yeah, we all see basically the same thing with the possibility of shade variances.
 
I always thought about this...

like.. my green is your blue.. and my yellow is your red... and my black is your white... pretty damn mindblowing.
 
We all see the same colours, your "theory" is retarded and based on no research whatsoever. Every person who thinks they're deep and philosophical comes up with this exact idea, disregarding the fact that scientific research clearly shows that we do in fact see all the same colours apart from colourblind people.
 
dude, we all precieve the same wavelengths the same, so we all see red, but the same cant be said about the color of everyday life.
 
We also see everything upside down by our brain turns it rightside up. There was a guy who did this experement where he wore glasses which made everyything look upside down. His brain eventually compensated for it and flipped the image, but when he took the glasses off he was seeing upside down. Eventually his brain reflipped the image. Brainz be crazy.
 
we looked at this problem in my physicalism class. Its called "inverse qualia"

I can point you towards some (very thick and dry) literature that may answer some questions for you.
 
im red/green colorblind, but its not that bad. But i understand what you are talking about, some shade of a color may look good to me but it turns out to be an ugly color to someone else.
 
I was thinking about this today actually and there is no way to prove this isn't happening. Last time i check wavelengths doesn't depend on what color something is so there is no real way to test this question. It's not like scientist can go into our minds and see exactly what we are seeing it just isn't possibile. Maybe some colors i see don't even exist in other people's world that's something ill never know
 
you are right.

We assign positive and negative values to colors, (for red=positive, green=negative; and blue=positive, yellow=negative).

We can't have a color experience that is both red and green, or blue and yellow, and all of our experiences of color come from some combination of red-green and blue-yellow values.

I don't know the specific neurophysiology behind all this, but its supposed to explain why our brain sees colors the way it does.
 
I swear this "philosophical" theory comes up more than anything else in NSG. There is an NS Thinkers cult where this has been EXTENSIVELY discussed...look it up if you are so interested.
 
I've thought the same things!!! Like what if everyone's mind saw things differently or smelled things differently. You're not alone bro.
 
we already had a long discussion about this. Colors are impossible to describe to someone who has never ever seen color. you cannot describe the color red to someone who has been blind from birth

I forget the name of it, but i read an wikipedia article on it, and it was fucking fascinating.

check that, its called Qualia. Read into this stuff, its amazing and makes you think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
 
then lets add semantics and ferdinand de saussure into the mix and ask why we call blue, blue and why can't white be black.
 
but "colors" like white or yellow or like navy blue u can say are really light with no color or very dark
 
ya but you could have allways been taught that yellow was light and navy blue was dark your entire perception of light and dark couldd be off also no like pitch black vrs white but more along the lines of darker vrs lighter colors
 
Weird. I've been thinking the same thing for the past few years now. The upside down thing (mentioned above) is pretty cool. It's amazing the way our brain works.
 
ive thought about that exact same thing before. if you think about anything really deep, you can come up with some crazy shit
 
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