Colorado State vs University of Utah

I didn't have a bad experience. The overall scene of Colorado just doesn't work for me. There are places that I would much prefer to live.

CSU is not a good school. If you're paying out of state tuition to go there you may want to rethink the whole college thing. Even at a school that is a standard deviation higher than CSU you're pretty fucked trying to get a job, so unless you have some good connections it's going to be incredibly tough to pay off those loans. Unless you have your parent's picking up the tab, then this myopic decision won't come back to haunt you quite as bad.
 
I see you are an elitist. WE, on the other hand, are here to get a good education from a good school. In fact, in my case, the Warner College of Natural Resources is top 2 in the country. Shitting on CSU without anything specific is laughable.
 
I'm not an elitist, I just understand logic and how the world works.

Anytime someone shits on their school the person gets defensive and points to the school's high ranking in some esoteric form of education.

The point is that overall it is a shitty school and the brand of school will get you nowhere. Look at overall rankings, that's what matters. You think you're going to get a good job or get into a great grad school because of the CSU name? You're fucked. To pay out of state tuition there is just overall retarded.

What the fuck are you going to do with your highly valued CSU degree? Make $60K as an engineer in fucking Rifle? Yea, you're killing it.

 
getting an idea of the college life from a ton of idiots that live in the area and have experienced the atmospheres to compare and get a better idea of what each college is like is definitely not a bad idea compared to just spending a few hours at each one and basing your decision off that. runonsentenceswhogivesafuckcomeatmebro

Also, the fact that you get your entertainment by trying to be an asshole to random people on the internet is beyond sad.

I guess if your really board then that's just what ar6 riders do.
 
Actually, I'll likely be making 40k a year in the outdoor industry doing what I love in the form of skiing, rafting, and fishing. I'll be happy, living in a cool place, and loving life.

According to you, 60k is inadequate. 60k is way above what the average american makes, so you are in fact an elitist. But to each his own. From what it seems like you value, I'm guessing you will be making lots of money and living in a city with millions of others looking to 'make it' while commuting in traffic and working a desk job. Meanwhile, you might be wishing you could get more time off to do the things you love.

These are all assumptions, but my point is that people have different priorities. I value my education because a lot of Americans don't have the opportunity to get one at all, so don't shit on my school. I'm basing my education off of something that I think I will be happy doing instead of 'getting somewhere in life' which is a retarded notion that I should give a shit about what other people think of my career choices.

Anyways, more power to you for doing what you want. I'm just sick of the fact that people are not considered successful just because they are not making tons of money. Success is something that should be gauged by yourself, not others. Have fun conforming to society, though!

 
I don't think that's something that you need a college degree for and if you pay out of state tuition you're coming out of school with $100K+ in debt and you're going to be pretty fucked.

If you've ever worked in he 'outdoor industry' you know that you're going to catering to over entitled gapers. I would rather put a gun in my mouth than deal with fucking affluent Texans all day. And fuck living in some mountain town year round with the same 2,000 people.

$60K is inadequate if you're trying to support yourself and others. How do you support your parents or a family down the line? Oh, Becky, we can't get you braces for 4 years because dad wanted to bum it and stuff hairy girls in resort towns for a decade.

I do commute in traffic and I do work a desk job. And my easiest day during the month is orders of magnitude harder than your hardest day. Yea, that sucks, but I also live within walking distance of surfing and I guarantee that I get more days in the water than you get on the mountain, river, etc. I do wish I had more time off but that isn't really an option in many industries, it's either you do or you don't. And the benefits of doing it greatly outweigh the benefits of not doing it.

Success isn't about how much money you make, but there is a correlation between the two. If you're actually doing public good on a large scale and in an innovative way you're likely going to be compensated commensurately with that. Yes, I have turned down opportunities that would allow me to make considerably more money but those are providing no value to society and not allow me to surf/ski. So I think my priorities are much more in line with providing a benefit to society, increasing my happiness and providing for my future. Yours on the other hand seem very myopic and self centered.

 
Again, my point is that I will lead a happier life doing what I want. Your ability to contribute to 'the overall good of society' is dependent on your own happiness. If you hate your life, then what motivation do you have to contribute? Luckily, all the "successful" people like you decided to bunch up and live on top of each other in cities that are dominated by capitalism, fast food, pollution, and crime. I'll take my mountain town any day.

In 10 years when you have earned a pile of money at your same boring desk job, wishing you had the time to spend it, I'll be looking back on all of the sweet places I worked at seasonally. I will also have somehow personally affected all of the people who I will personally showed and guided in amazing places during my travels. Then, when I'm done wasting a decade in various stinky ski towns, as you put it, I'll raise a family in a modest way in a mountain town, which generally have minimal crime, tons of outdoor activities, and a mountain to shred at on the weekends, just as I was raised. I'll be working management jobs due to my experience, or will perhaps have started my own business using my business minor that undoubtedly would do my no good since its from CSU, according to you.

Also, I'm not dumb enough to ever pay out of state tuition. In fact, in one year, I'll graduate with no debt to my name. You, on the other hand, seem to have bought into what society deems 'necessary' and 'responsible.' Have fun being who others want you to be.
 
Very literally of this has to do specifically with Colorado State University.

And if you seriously think $60k a year is unmanageable you are either incredibly immature, financially inept, or both. Maybe if you live in San Francisco where a manager at Target makes $57k a year, but in most places in the country $60k is above average.

I did not go to CSU, but several of my friends did and many of them are extremely successful and happy with their choice. It's certainly a gateway to what you want if you put in the effort, and that education can be had a more reasonable price than larger schools. You can't possibly generalize an entire institution like this one when it has a record of success comprable to most other state schools.

That being said, where did you go to school? It sounds extremely impressive to those of us who can hardly feed our families with our measly $60k salaries. CU and now you live in Cali so you're some kind of 23 year old savant? Bottom line, you work a desk job. You don't know what it's like when you go skiing or mountain biking after work and it's not the most exciting or fulfilling thing you did that day. When you have 43 paid personal days off saved up and have no plans to use them in the foreseeable future, then you can talk to people about how to live their lives and what a fulfilling career is.

 
i never ever understood why people would want to go to school and rack up 150 k in debt. your lifes biggest expense would be a house if you bought it and you could probably get one for 150k in most areas. instead you take 20 years to pay off your school loans while living with roomates and never skiing.

then if you got a fancy degree and a job related to your fancy degree you probably have to move to a place where houses are inflated because people around you have fancy degrees and fancy jobs and make lots of money then you have to buy a beamer because you would be the lauging stock of the neighborhood with a rusty subaru.

stay one step ahead of the game and dont go to school.
 
Or work hard and like what you do, get a full ride.

Or be a moderately motivated and intelligent minority, and get a full ride.
 
Yes....$150k will buy you a nice house in Phoenix for example. Yet another comment alluding to the fact that skiers typically grow up in a very privileged and slightly ignorant lifestyle.
 
I agree with almost everything; then you said that.

CSU has 5000 acres. There are quite a few universities which are larger than this. Berry in GA has 26,000 acres. Stanford has more than 8000. . . .

Anyway, I'd probably still go to Utah, maybe.

Which is cheaper?

To anyone discussing the out of state tuition, depending on how you go about things, you can usually have in state tuition by year 2, and if it's cheaper than your present state's tuition, it could be well worth it.

I paid $17,000 for my first year, then $4000 each year after that. UofM was around $11k in state per year. After year 2, I was saving money. Although, you could lose out on instate grants your first year that you may have otherwise qualified for. So really depends on the cost, but $5000 - $10000 becomes pretty negligible if the program is better or it will ultimately make you happier.
 
It boggles my mind that people consider this a good time. I figured that most people would go out of their way to avoid a pit of sweaty dudes undulating to shitty laptop music.
 
Living costs in coastal CA are much higher than the front range. I can't go to super Wal Mart to buy avocados. I also can't rent a room for $350. I pay a lot to live by the beach but the ability to walk to surf can't be quantified for me. Bar tabs also rise in parallel with your salary.

I'm not 23, I'm 5 years out of school now and not some genius. I'm pretty smart but also work incredibly hard and have had some luck along the way.

Yea, I work a desk job. Even if I open my own business I'm still going to be working behind a desk most of the day. That's actually a pretty great line about skiing after work not being the most fulfilling part of my day. I don't believe that exists for me. I would put a gun in my mouth working park crew, ski instructor, surf instructor, guide, any of that bullshit involving selling out to gapers. Even if it is something that you really like doing you're not going to like it after 60+ each week without a break. You're in the Air Force right? That sounds like a cool job. You get paid alright, have a solid pension while doing what you want to do.

The thing is I and others are funding that, so that you can subsidize your education to be a commercial pilot. Can you really rationalize your job and the costs associated with it when you look at yourself in the mirror as net positive to society. Is some of it necessary? Yes, but most...no.
 
I'm honestly surprised that the kid who moved to Breckenridge to fit people into rental boots daily and learn how to convince people to buy more shit they don't need has the audacity to lecture others on life choices. This thread was about college choices and you made a ridiculous statement about CSU not being worthwhile in any way and listed worst case scenario financial figures. You're simply trying to elevate your mediocre degree and cookie cutter lifestyle by putting down those who are legitimately happy with the niche they've found via other means.

I have zero desire to ever be a commercial pilot and I pay those same taxes, and if you have something that isn't laughably ignorant to say about that I suggest you vote accordingly. You cannot look me in the face and pretend to understand what I do.

I will always do what interests me and makes me happy, and in fact I probably won't get a military pension unless they let me fly fighters for all 20 years it takes to get that (it won't happen). I have a civil engineering background and practiced carpentry most of my life. I would love to design and build energy efficient houses one day honestly. I'm still not sure why you are lecturing me on jobs I would never find attractive anyway, or why you think people go to college to become park crew.

 
Yeah no shit you can buy a really shitty house for 150k (Unless it's a foreclosure but i'm not talking about that) see how many people go to college for 4years Have a degree and live in a 150k house.
 
Not sure where you're from, but most places you can buy a 2-3 bedroom house for < $100k but like Dustin said, most skiers come from rich or middle class families where their neighborhoods and areas cost 5-10x more than those areas that aren't controlled by tourism. Just saying, you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
typical statement from someone whos never been here.

and you can buy full strength beer at the liquor store you dumb twat
 
college is what you make it, unfortunately this statement is completely false. How many times have you gone to the U of U and lived in utah? Yeah, zero.

also had to chime in on this:

"personally go up every weekend and stay the entire weekend. but i know kids in utah that ski thursday-sunday and i know that would wear me out"

skiing 4 days a week wears you out? Sorry that going out and raging is your #1 goal but i know kids here who party 4-5 days a week and ski 5 days a week EVERY WEEK ALL WINTER and alot of other kids wanna do that too. Being too hung over on friday from your epic party thursday night is no pussyclot excuse to not ski. you're fucking what 20? wait til you're 24 youre gonna think life is real tough
 
Sorry, that was not clear. I was referring to the actual amount of open grassy space on campus, not the actual size of campus. I heard that on somewhere i dont remember, so it may not be 100% factual, but CSU has a lot of open space
 
I do, my family is currently looking for a house in Schenectady ny. A three bedroom house does not qualify as a "nice house". All I'm saying is no one's going to spend $150k on a house and then have people drive by complementing them on how nice it is. Most people I know who have gone to college live in much more expensive houses that's the argument. Because that guy was saying college isn't worth it.
 
You sound like such a rich fucking dick head, im going to move on and stop caring what you have to say.
 
I can assure you there are millions of people in this country with that exact situation. Most places property prices are extremely low compared to the market you likely experience in New York, or most ski resort towns.
 
A 3 bedroom house is very nice if you are single or don't live like a classic American douchbag with 4 or 5 unused guest bedrooms. But as you said, you're parents understand real estate and you're an ignorant kid who puts stock absolutely in the wrong places.
 
yes I made money in stocks so it was put in the wrong places?have fun thinking college isn't worth it. come talk to me when your 26 still living in breck at in your SWEET 150k pad.
 
What if its a 150k condo and he lives alone? It would actually be pretty sick.. you seem to know nothing just stop posting
 
1. Not literal stock you incompetent child.

2. LO-fucking-L, I never said anything about college not being worth it. I have a Civil Engineering degree and from a top 10 school and I was on the Dean's List all 4 years. I put stock (not money, this is called speaking figuratively) in education, don't worry about it.

3. Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about. Talk to me when you touch something worth $50,000,000 and I'll laugh at how you think your parents house is something people drive by and point at.

 
I'm not arguing that 150,000 is not a decent house. What he said is no one should go to college for $150,000 instead you should just spend it on the house. And all I'm trying to say is if you get a four-year degree you can probably Have an easier time buying a nicer house even with the loans.
 
why the fuck is everyone getting so angry, were all just stating opinions yes some may be wrong and if you read all my posts im said im not sure what it would be like in utah but i imagine, cant you just respect someones opinion and say actually ive been here and done such and it was awesome instead of fuck you, you have no idea go fuck yourself sounds like a bunch of pathetic high schoolers, if this is what newschoolers is coming to I'm out
 
I just graduated from CSU and had a great few years. I'll admit it's further from skiing than most of us on this site would prefer but I was easily able to get about 40 days a season at some great places (keystone, breck, vail, abasin). Fort Collins is awesome as well. Not really sure how some people hate on it cuz there's really nothing to hate. Horsetooth Reservoir and Odell sort of explain it all.
 
Smoking weed is easy to do there.

Multiple resorts are within 30 mins. of driving, two of which are considered to have the best snow on Earth (as in fluffyness, that's motherfucking science right there), PC has a pretty fun park(s) although it used to be better but I still wouldn't choose any resort over it for spring skiing and you have the southern Utah area which is full of national parks and the mecca of MTB big mtn. riding and XC... the DH trails aren't too shabby either down there.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO COLORADO?!
 
If you're looking for a great college town AND skiing, University of Missouri is about 90 minutes from Missouri's best ski resort, Hidden Valley.

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Yeah no not quite yet. Just because the vote passed its not like you can just go buy weed from a store now
 
This douchebag refuses to say where he went. I remember asking him and assuring him I went somewhere better and he shut up. He tried calling me out a few months back and giving me the same shit about how I am actually poor and slumming it and stuff.

(Im a humble ticket scalper since I don't work normal hours or anything ski bum 2-3 month a year and make 60-70k ish.) I do remember this snowblades idiot hating hardcore on me and bigging himself up for living by the ocean and having a job.
 
Ya I wasn't remotely interested in that miserable sounding job of his. I'd shoot myself, I can't handle bullshit like that and especially for less pay.
 
Yeah Im only 27 so my friends are all 5/6 years out of school. Of the kids who hit good jobs right out of college and were up to the 70-90k pay range in a couple years I think half of them have quit to travel around or do something else. (I am sure the job snowblades brags about is similar to there's and he's not a doctor or lawyer or anything.)

Not everyone has it in them to 9-5 at a desk.

I personally have only ever had shit jobs in my life and would love to show up and fuck around at a desk for 2k a week of someone elses money. I wish I knew what that kind of life was like. Its not easy being self employed I have to put up 10s of thousands of dollars of my own money in order to make money, not just show up somewhere for 8 hours 5 days a week.

I know which is easier.

But even with the best 9-5 in the world I'd likely get miserable soon enough.
 
holy hell this thread turned into a shitstorm.

i wonder if some people are just too ignorant to realize that living expenses are drastically different in different parts of the country and that a 60k salary in a rural area is basically equivalent to an 80-100k salary elsewhere.
 
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