College

13711862:Yung_Jimmy said:
Kind of threadjacking a little bit here but does anyone know of some smaller schools that are close to good resorts and also have good football programs? Depending on what happens my Junior and Senior HS seasons I'll make a decision but any helpful insight would be appreciated
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Look into the NESCAC schools as far as the east coast goes. Most of them are pretty hard to get in to though. Idk how the football at any small schools out west is.
 
13711907:Brule. said:
Plymouth State in NH is pretty nice. You're within a short drive from Loon, Waterville, and Cannon (even Tuckerman's), and they're pretty big on skiing. It's a good decision for a good east coast skier's school for half the cost for UVM if you're out of state.
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Definitely take a look at Plymouth op, close to 5 mountains and tons of backcountry, along with endless places to hike and climb if you're into that, and highland bike park is 20 min away if you mtn bike. And everyone is cool as fuck, could count on one hand the number of stuck up girls or frat douchers I met last year. With your gpa/ sat you'll get a real nice scholarship, I had a 3.4 in high school and get around $7000 per year. Pm me if you have any questions about it man I'm going to be a sophmore and would totally recommend it to anyone on here it's an awesome place.
 
WTF goes on in college? Do you actually learn? Not trying to be a dick but I swear I meet way more narrow minded complete morons with no common sense that are in or coming out of college, than anywhere else. Hopefully its just the schools around me but damn, its scary hearing what comes out of the average college kids mouth.
 
13713257:XtRemE11 said:
WTF goes on in college? Do you actually learn? Not trying to be a dick but I swear I meet way more narrow minded complete morons with no common sense that are in or coming out of college, than anywhere else. Hopefully its just the schools around me but damn, its scary hearing what comes out of the average college kids mouth.
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I'd argue the opposite, in terms of world views, social views, tolerance of others, and the ability to get along with people from vastly different back grounds. But that's my experience.

What have you seen and heard?
 
13713261:californiagrown said:
I'd argue the opposite, in terms of world views, social views, tolerance of others, and the ability to get along with people from vastly different back grounds. But that's my experience.

What have you seen and heard?
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In terms of accepting modern progressive ideas, I would say the average college kid is right up there. I guess the problem is that I don't think they know why they are accepting of it, from what I can tell they're taught an idea that they're supposed to agree with, and they accept it without actually critically thinking through it. The ideas they seem to be mindlessly accepting just happen to be modern, progressive, "tollerance" etc.

Though when I try to have a conversation with somebody about any of these ideas they cant go any deeper into it, its like they accept but don't think.

Ive got a perfect example from a couple days ago.. I tried having a conversation with a girl who called herself a feminist, every single time I brought up an idea that went against her thinking, she got offended, called me sexist, and froze up. Never offered anything to refute any of my points, just labeled them all as sexist. She had these basic points that women make less than men, are given less opportunity, are treated like sexual objects, etc.. but offered nothing past that, just stated that thats how it is and to critically think about it was sexist and offensive.

Thats a perfect summary of 90% of the students I try to talk to. The second you bring up anything that may question what they've been taught is accepting, tolerant, equality, whatever, you're a racist, sexist, something-ist. they dont know why, you just are. And its kind of ridiculous because that kind of thinking is exactly how TRUE racism, sexism, etc. forms. Their mind is going through the same process, same kind of thinking that a racist goes through to believe that another race ins inferior. Thats whats scary.

The actual smart students ive met seem to be the ones who are in school for something like engineering because they actually have to learn these things to pursue a career they're interested in. its the ones just going for a degree who seem to be absorbing and accepting these ideas and not actually learning anything valuable.

The mark of an educated mind is to entertain a thought without accepting it. Thats what seems to be lacking big time in college educated people.
 
13713272:XtRemE11 said:
In terms of accepting modern progressive ideas, I would say the average college kid is right up there. I guess the problem is that I don't think they know why they are accepting of it, from what I can tell they're taught an idea that they're supposed to agree with, and they accept it without actually critically thinking through it. The ideas they seem to be mindlessly accepting just happen to be modern, progressive, "tollerance" etc.

Though when I try to have a conversation with somebody about any of these ideas they cant go any deeper into it, its like they accept but don't think.

Ive got a perfect example from a couple days ago.. I tried having a conversation with a girl who called herself a feminist, every single time I brought up an idea that went against her thinking, she got offended, called me sexist, and froze up. Never offered anything to refute any of my points, just labeled them all as sexist. She had these basic points that women make less than men, are given less opportunity, are treated like sexual objects, etc.. but offered nothing past that, just stated that thats how it is and to critically think about it was sexist and offensive.

Thats a perfect summary of 90% of the students I try to talk to. The second you bring up anything that may question what they've been taught is accepting, tolerant, equality, whatever, you're a racist, sexist, something-ist. they dont know why, you just are. And its kind of ridiculous because that kind of thinking is exactly how TRUE racism, sexism, etc. forms. Their mind is going through the same process, same kind of thinking that a racist goes through to believe that another race ins inferior. Thats whats scary.

The actual smart students ive met seem to be the ones who are in school for something like engineering because they actually have to learn these things to pursue a career they're interested in. its the ones just going for a degree who seem to be absorbing and accepting these ideas and not actually learning anything valuable.

The mark of an educated mind is to entertain a thought without accepting it. Thats what seems to be lacking big time in college educated people.
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Idk, I've had the polar opposite experiences living in SF and now Seattle post college. Maybe, like a lot of times in life, the loud people eager to engage on a touchy subject in a social setting (politics, religon, etc) just have low self esteem and want to regurgitate arguments to feel superior? Idk.

One of the more underrated things about college is it will teach people how to write well. I was astounded how shitty 90% of my classmates were at writing in my first semester freshman English class. Like, it was fucking horrendous.
 
13713257:XtRemE11 said:
WTF goes on in college?
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Skiing, boozin, smokin, and fuckin every day on party mountain. Pretty much only go to class during the fall until the resorts open. If I'm not too tired after my ski day I might take a couple dabs and go to my music appreciation class.

jk I missed the biggest pow day of the season because I didn't wan't to fail calc.
 
13713310:californiagrown said:
Idk, I've had the polar opposite experiences living in SF and now Seattle post college. Maybe, like a lot of times in life, the loud people eager to engage on a touchy subject in a social setting (politics, religon, etc) just have low self esteem and want to regurgitate arguments to feel superior? Idk.

One of the more underrated things about college is it will teach people how to write well. I was astounded how shitty 90% of my classmates were at writing in my first semester freshman English class. Like, it was fucking horrendous.
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I've spent a but of time in Seattle and Portland and had the same experiences there. In terms of people having what would be considered accepting and forward thinking opinions on issues but not really knowing why they believe it. They're told they need to have that opinion, almost none of them come to the same conclusion by critically thinking about it from all angles.

I went to some "raise awareness for the struggles of a female in college" (dont remember what it was actually called) get together. because my girlfriend who's in college wanted me to go. the entire time I was thinking of arguments against what they were saying, only spoke out on a couple, but I was shamed or labeled something every time I tried to argue the other side. It was like they completely refused to analyze these "issues" these thoughts never occurred to them, and they refused to consider them. They were being told that as a female in college they were being treated unequal and being taken advantage of, and thats all they wanted to hear. Sure they believe in what a millennial in college would consider progressive and open minded thoughts. but i've never been around such close minded people. its insane.

anyway, rant over, I just think there's something very lacking in most colleges, it seems like kids are taught to accept ideas and not being taught to learn, analyze without emotion, and think for themselves. I see it where I work too, kids fresh out of college that have an extremely out of touch view of the real world and within maybe 6 months of being in that real world they finally start to figure it out, relax and realize all these things they're taught to think dont necessarily apply. some never figure it out.
 
13713553:XtRemE11 said:
I've spent a but of time in Seattle and Portland and had the same experiences there. In terms of people having what would be considered accepting and forward thinking opinions on issues but not really knowing why they believe it. They're told they need to have that opinion, almost none of them come to the same conclusion by critically thinking about it from all angles.

I went to some "raise awareness for the struggles of a female in college" (dont remember what it was actually called) get together. because my girlfriend who's in college wanted me to go. the entire time I was thinking of arguments against what they were saying, only spoke out on a couple, but I was shamed or labeled something every time I tried to argue the other side. It was like they completely refused to analyze these "issues" these thoughts never occurred to them, and they refused to consider them. They were being told that as a female in college they were being treated unequal and being taken advantage of, and thats all they wanted to hear. Sure they believe in what a millennial in college would consider progressive and open minded thoughts. but i've never been around such close minded people. its insane.

anyway, rant over, I just think there's something very lacking in most colleges, it seems like kids are taught to accept ideas and not being taught to learn, analyze without emotion, and think for themselves. I see it where I work too, kids fresh out of college that have an extremely out of touch view of the real world and within maybe 6 months of being in that real world they finally start to figure it out, relax and realize all these things they're taught to think dont necessarily apply. some never figure it out.
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Wait, you went to a feminism rally, tried to argue against it, and then felt as though you weren't taken seriously or respected?

Wow. So you're one of those people, huh?

More proof common sense ain't common I guess lol
 
Anybody else looking at schools in areas devoid of skiing? UChicago is near the top of my list and I've pretty much accepted that if I get in, I won't ski (save for breaks). Also looking at some schools in DC.... definitely won't have anyone to ski with on breaks there
 
13713596:JohnLocke said:
Anybody else looking at schools in areas devoid of skiing? UChicago is near the top of my list and I've pretty much accepted that if I get in, I won't ski (save for breaks). Also looking at some schools in DC.... definitely won't have anyone to ski with on breaks there
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You will have plenty of fun without skiing. You will also likely pick up new activities/hobbies/passions that stick with you after school.
 
13713596:JohnLocke said:
Anybody else looking at schools in areas devoid of skiing? UChicago is near the top of my list and I've pretty much accepted that if I get in, I won't ski (save for breaks). Also looking at some schools in DC.... definitely won't have anyone to ski with on breaks there
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Ive thought about it and even though there are some perfect schools in non skiing areas the thought of not being near the great outdoors for four years is just horrible like Id get depressed or something
 
13713600:mswizzle3 said:
Ive thought about it and even though there are some perfect schools in non skiing areas the thought of not being near the great outdoors for four years is just horrible like Id get depressed or something
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That's why Dartmouth is any skier's paradise
 
13713600:mswizzle3 said:
Ive thought about it and even though there are some perfect schools in non skiing areas the thought of not being near the great outdoors for four years is just horrible like Id get depressed or something
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Mate, I think your are a little too critical about the whole "how close to the mountain" a school is instead of what the school offers. You can always take a weekend trip or if you really wanted to make it count, work hard and get ahead and right after mid-terms you could take a week long trip. That's what I would do.

That being said, I went to the University of Michigan and there was a mountain ~20 minutes out of campus. I honestly found myself there much more than I should have been. I was cutting classes and all that jive. Then the next season I began taking EARLY classes, like start at 8am, done by around 2 or 3, and I would go straight to the hill ad meet up with my buds. I was much better off doing that.
 
13713563:californiagrown said:
Wait, you went to a feminism rally, tried to argue against it, and then felt as though you weren't taken seriously or respected?

Wow. So you're one of those people, huh?

More proof common sense ain't common I guess lol
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I really didn't want to, went to make my girlfriend happy. I'm not at all a confrontational person. I tried so damn hard to resist speaking up more. It was a discussion style deal where everyone's involved, so I would have thought they'd be open to actual discussion.

Outside of a college setting I feel like I can have these kinds of discussions and actually get somewhere, nobody gets angry or offended, you just talk and bring up good points. But anything that didn't further feed their skewed views was seen as offensive and sexist.

Im not trying to piss anyone off or say college kids are incapable of thinking for themselves. Im just trying to figure out what it is in college campus's that seems to breed that kind of narrow mindedness.
 
13713656:XtRemE11 said:
I really didn't want to, went to make my girlfriend happy. I'm not at all a confrontational person. I tried so damn hard to resist speaking up more. It was a discussion style deal where everyone's involved, so I would have thought they'd be open to actual discussion.

Outside of a college setting I feel like I can have these kinds of discussions and actually get somewhere, nobody gets angry or offended, you just talk and bring up good points. But anything that didn't further feed their skewed views was seen as offensive and sexist.

Im not trying to piss anyone off or say college kids are incapable of thinking for themselves. Im just trying to figure out what it is in college campus's that seems to breed that kind of narrow mindedness.
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Man, if you can't figure out on your own that a feminism rally is a bad place to voice a dissenting opinion, you've got problems haha.

Do you also go to anti-abortion rallies and trumpet the merits of abortion? Lol.

Some self control, self awareness, and a big helping of common sense would do you well.
 
Currently go to MSU, Bozeman is an amazing town. Everything you would want to do is super close to campus and town. The town has an amazing vibe all the time and the people are friendly. MSU also has a really good engineering program.
 
13713795:Tater.Tots said:
Currently go to MSU, Bozeman is an amazing town. Everything you would want to do is super close to campus and town. The town has an amazing vibe all the time and the people are friendly. MSU also has a really good engineering program.
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ow ow bozo
 
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