College Acceptance 08 thread

Dude I already made my choice, I got into those schools last year. I'm about to finish my first year at Sierra JC with straight A's pretty much. Besides, Ivy league ain't my style, I'm too lazy.
 
haha well im real sorry bud. if my parents STOPPED putting money into retirement, sold our cabin, made minimum payments on our house, etc, then we probably could. and yes, thank you^, taxes.
 
i realize taxes pay a part but my dad is the only parent that works in the family, pulling in about 125 to 130 a year, and he has enough money put away to send me and my brother to pretty much any college for four years. Its all about putting away money early.
 
If you cant pay for college when you have an income over 200k, its pretty obvious that a lot of that money is being poorly spent. You guys are grossly overestimating the sliding scale from being 1 tax bracket ahead of my family (less than 80k). From my point of view, its very frustrating to me that you feel that you can only go to such and such college because your parents make only 200k. From what you tell me, the money is either being squandered or spent on complete non-essentials, and god forbid you have to take out a loan and fill out a stack of scholarship applications like many students who value their education above their fucking cabin. Christ, I mean if you dont want to go to college or you only want to take it easy and have some fun thats fine by me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but please dont blame it on your financial situation.
 
I completely agree. You're in the top 2.67% of household income and you can't afford to go to college?
 
not exactly an acceptance to any college but i just got a 25 on my act and im pretty stoked!!!!!111!!!1!!one!!1111eleven
 
Well to me wasting 30k a year on something as stupid as undergrad general ed is pretty fucking pointless. And fuck taking out a huge loan, my dad worked his ass of paying back his loan. I'm not blaming it on my financial situation, besides the fact that if my parents didn't make shit I could go there for free.

And seriously I'm not a fucking leech. Perhaps you are unaware of how expensive it is to live in California. I'd rather him have the money to spend on better things (i.e. house next to awesome surf breaks in costa rica) then on something as unimportant as undergrad. I think I'm actually getting a better education from professors at my JC than from those TAs in auditorium style classes they have at the UCs. Graduate school is where it counts anyway.

200k may sound like a lot but its not when in California.
 
Are you serious? You think you are getting a better education from a junior college than a university? I mean, it really seems like you are and Im about to start laughing at your ignorance. You are sooooooo wrong to say that big Universities are nothing but huge lecture halls taught by TAs. Sorry, but all TAs do is grade your homework and answer any questions you have in a smaller classroom. Not only that, but only some introductory classes are in big lecture halls with a hundred other students. The classes are taught by professors who are top researchers in their respective fields, they have a wealth of information and experience that they can share, its not like they are just teaching out of the textbook or something.

You also say "something as unimportant as undergrad". It's perfectly acceptable to me that you don't value a college education as much as surfing, thats your choice, but dont say undergraduate education is unimportant as if you are just going to go to a Junior College then go back to Yale and say hey, why dont you let me in your graduate program, Ive got an associates degree! Of course with only 2 years under your belt you'd have to apply for the undergraduate program... but thats a waste of time in your eyes so I suppose you wont be making it to graduate school.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with your choices, I'm sure surfing in Costa Rica would be pretty fucking fun, and if that is more important than you than a university education thats ok. My problem comes with how you justify your choices and how you automatically denounce an undergrad education as "pointless", you can do so much with a bachelor's degree, and so much more when you use it to get into grad school for your masters or whatever.
 
I'm already about to sign up for guaranteed admission to several UCs after I get out. My junior college is the best in California. It'll be very easy to transfer, especially when they see that I've already gotten in and because I have mostly As so far. The top UCs are the best public colleges in the United States. When did I say I was just getting an associate's degree? Most of general ed is busy work, might as well get it out of the way on the cheap. Don't think that 4 year institutions are all that, its a lot of hype.

And yes I've sat in with my friends at some of their classes at the U of O, and the auditorium thing sucks. Whenever I have a problem I talk to my professors and get all the help I need. I would say I'm getting a much better education in my smaller classrooms.

I know professors at UC Davis who are friends with my parents and they tell me its becoming a genuine joke.

And where the hell do you get off saying I don't value my education? I just put value in my money and the finer things in life. All of you that think spending huge sums of money on getting a "better" education are suckers in my mind.
 
It sure seemed like you didnt value your education or was planning to go to a four year university to me, if you are, thats awesome, but from what you posted earlier, its pretty easy to see why.

"something as stupid as undergrad general ed is pretty fucking pointless"

"I'd rather him have the money to spend on better things (i.e. house

next to awesome surf breaks in costa rica) then on something as

unimportant as undergrad."

"Besides, Ivy league ain't my style, I'm too lazy."

"I do not qualify for that, my parents make too much, and I don't want

to go into debt. Maybe I'll transfer when I'm done with JC, we'll see.

For now, I still enjoy having my freedom."

-This one is still funny, yeah you probably wont have any freedom at a University, but apparently since then youve decided that you will transfer to a university since an undergraduate education is suddenly not pointless and its worth the money.

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I'd be an idiot to pass up going to a fucking easy cheap JC"

" Actually I love taking easy classes."

It sounds good, I mean if you think general education classes are nothing but busy work, and can be better taught by your JC professors, you are still pretty ignorant, but now that you seem to have suddenly rediscovered the merit of an undergraduate education, it sounds good to me. I guess it sucks for your friends at U of O, I mean I cant speak for them, but I make an effort to speak to my profs after lecture and make use of their knowledge. If you do actually have connections to professors at UC Davis thats some pretty interesting opinions coming from a professor, but I think if you actually took a moment to consider some other opinions, you would find the vast majority of students and professors highly value the undergraduate education system in place.
 
his point is that he is in a smaller classroom, where he can have constant contact with his teachers, ensurring he is learning the material...compared to a big ass lecture hall where you have limited contact and are just a number...what hes leaving out is when you get to a higher level course in a big university a lot of classes are less than 30 people.

i dont get why you guys are getting personal over whos getting a better education..different people learn better in different environments, so both of you are so far from the truth.
 
thats awesomeee! Its such a beautiful campus. I was recruited by them for track, but wound up not applying b/c ieven if I did get in, I'd be treading water the whole time...

AMERICAN UNIVERSITY 2012
 
I started the argument merely because originally he rejected the opportunity for a University education (even Yale, which soo many students would absolutely kill for) in favor of classes he admits are very easy at a Junior College. The class size debate was thrown in there, and we did get a little off topic. That probably should have been left for a small versus large college debate. If he made his choice based on class sizes, he wouldnt have applied to big colleges in the first place. Instead he made it off the difference in cost (as apparent, I believe it wouldve been well worth it) and his feelings that undergraduate education was nothing but general classes with busy work taught by TAs, while implying that there was no way to form a connection with your professor. While your post holds a lot of truth, Id actually consider it aside from the original purpose.

 
ok. im going to give this another try.

im not sure how much my parents make. i think its between 125 and 150. it might be more, im not sure. could be less.my parents spend money on: putting $ into retirement, house payments, my sister current college education, our cabin, and some other piddly shit. we dont blow a couple grand at the mall. we dont buy boats. we dont drive nice cars.

IF (for the third time), my parents stopped putting money into retirement, they could probably pay for a $40,000 education. but personally, im not willing to ask them to put off their retirement.

IF my parents sold the cabin, they could probably pay for a $40,000 education. but personally, im not willing to ask them to sell something they love.

IF my parents stopped paying for our house... (do you get the point yet?)

The problem with the amount of money we make, is that we cannot get need-based financial aid.

and buddy, im not blaming shit on my financial situation. i was making a statement, not asking for sympathy because my family makes money.
 
I based that post off of you saying "my parents pull in about 175-200k". If they make 125k, sure its going to be more difficult to pay for college, but college is very rarely something you pay for out of pocket. Its a planned investment in a child's future, the higher the income the easier it is to build a college fund. When I was referring to your "situation" I meant more your college choices, not your lifestyle (poor word choice on my part, I can see how you thought thats what I meant). If your parents didnt put money in for a college fund, then yeah for sure its going to be very difficult even on a higher income. I can only respond to what you tell me, I apologize for any inferences I make based on your statements that turn out to be false.
 
What the fuck? I was writing specifically about maybe transferring to Yale... Not opting out of a 4 year degree. And no I do not retract anything I said. Most of general ed is pointless busywork. Am I a science major? No. Then why the hell am I taking these classes? I'd rather take classes that are not my strength in an environment where I can get all the help I need and do well. And seriously, for my science and other classes do I really give a fuck if these people are "top of their field" or not? Am I going to spend 30k a year and plunge myself into debt to listen to some ass who is "top of the field"? No.

You put far too much emphasis on GE, the only classes that really help you are those relating to your major. And just out of curiosity, where do you go to school?

 
actually its quite easy. i disagree with you, but not enough to try to convince you otherwise. like the other guy said though, do what you want man. its your life.
 
i realize that may be the case but its not that your parents CANT pay for you to go to college its that they made different choices. In your case having a second home was more important. My parents are pulling in about the same, but we only have one house. However the mortgage is paid off, and tons of money has been set aside since the beginning both for their retirement in roth IRAs 401ks etc, and in various cds and other investments for college for me and my brother. thanks to better financial planning we will be fine.

Im not hating on your situation but there are tons of kids out there that have it ALOT worse and truly have financial problems with going to college
 
yes, im quite aware of that. and if you can find me a place where i said that they didnt, i would gladly retract everything i have said in this thread.

 
If you were just arguing about transferring to Yale, then dont base your argument off what you see as negative aspects of undergraduate education in general. It's true you never said you didnt want to earn a bachelors degree, but you did say things like:

"I'd rather him have the money to spend on better things (i.e. house

next to awesome surf breaks in costa rica) then on something as

unimportant as undergrad."

That is fairly contradictory with your current statements. In my opinion, your evaluation of general ed being busy work merely because it does not directly pertain to your major is incredibly narrow minded. Even should you know exactly what you want to do, no matter what field you are in you will greatly benefit from a wider perspective and being more knowledgeable in a variety of fields. For instance, I am going into chemical engineering, but I take english classes because I recognize writing as an important skill, political theory to sharpen my public speaking skills and re-evaluate my political outlook, and and computer science because I realize how much efficiency it will bring to my work. The list goes on and on. Sure you can learn a lot of these skills at your Junior College, but undoubtedly you have a narrower selection and poorer faculty to learn from.

You then go on to imply that you can't get all the help you need in general ed classes at a bigger university (sorry BDePierre gotta get off topic again), this could not be more false. There are labs set up for full time support in classes like computer science, and you can always meet with your professor after class or during office hours. Not to mention you have TAs that can quickly answer questions. To be honest, you seem like I pretty smart person and Id be willing to bet that this isnt a sticking factor for you, and that you are cruising through your Junior College classes. I go to the University of Washington btw, dont pay 40k a year for sure ahha, but its not 700 either (still disagree with you of course, but that number really surprised me). A;right anyways its been fun, but Im going to be done with this one. Thank you for writing thought-out responses as opposed to just turning this into a petty flame war, it was fun~

 
For sure, I think the main point we disagree on is how much better university courses are than Junior college courses. I think you have an unfair outlook on all JCs. I do agree that a number of JCs are a joke but I'm attending the best one in California that has more UC transfers than any others. I doubt the UC system would be taking all these students if they thought people attending received such "inferior" education from their instructors as opposed to those at the UCs. What I see is a good deal of hype attached to going directly into a 4 year school. A lot of people can't deal with the transition and fuck up their first year. Props to you though if you're doing well.

Basically I made some mistakes in what I wrote. I referred to undergrad when I mainly meant GE, and while I do agree with you thats its nice to have a broader spectrum in education, its not necessary to receive "top notch" instruction in courses that don't directly apply to your major. No one can argue with saving money and if I still graduate a top UC with a bachelors, does it really matter that I saved my money the first two years by going to a JC? Plus its awesome still having a lot of time to skiing. Mainly I do not want to go into debt, and if I do I want it to be as little as possible while still acquiring a good education.

 
impressive lol. howd u get in is your ACT amazing or something. did u write a dope essay. haha
 
U of Utah 2012, at least I think so...I am still thinking over my choices for a couple of days, but they are offering me full tuition and stipend for room, so all I would pay for are meals, and the skiing is the best, sooooooo......awesome deal!
 
pooned, but yeah you can get in later if you want, they sent me an email, but I was like no thanks, mayhaps departmental honors, until then I dont want all this extra weird crap~
 
Anyone going to college in the Albany area. I'm going to st. rose and hoping that i don't have to give up skiing while im there
 
southern vt is only like a bit over an hour away from albany depending on where exactly you are, and the catskills mountains are really close too, you should be fine
 
i was accepted to

University of british columbia

university of montana

york university

university of colorado at boulder

and johnson and wales, denver
 
i got denied by UVM when i was in high school but they just accepted me as a transfer student, so that's always an option if you really want to go there.

anyway, i've been accepted to transfer to UVM and Boulder so far. woo!
 
yeah, i live in seattle

uw is a legit school definately

it's getting harder and harder to get into

and the med program is amazing
 
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