Freeskier_boi
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Next summer, I want to go at a camp ski so badly! Just wondering about the best park for intermediate skier and I'm living in Canada! Thx Nsers! +k
COC vs Windells
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theTRIBE101
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momentumI really like being able to roam around whistler, so COC
Freeskier_boi
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Could u be more specific?
stupendous-man
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Could you be less of a dumbass and google it?
Freeskier_boi
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I see that u didn't like ur mom's food tonight.. It was just a question like the others one.
stupendous-man
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Dude she tried to make me eat my salad and I got so mad I went to my room to rage on ns
Freeskier_boi
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Thanks!
Freeskier_boi
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Knew it!
Windells is the place to be during the summer months, hands down, there is no better facilities on hill and off, coaching, pro coaching staff, activities, lodging, food service then any other related camp. The bottom line is MHSSC is a third rate camp. If you question this then hop on to face book and ask Kevin English and Tim Windell what they think. They run the two major camps on mt hood and i am confident they well share my opinion much like every one else that is not benefiting from the third rated camp.
COC has had its day and High Cascade and Windells over shadow what COC has hands down and in all honesty no disrespect to Ken, COC is not a camp, its a park on the mt. lets keep it real.
COC has had its day and High Cascade and Windells over shadow what COC has hands down and in all honesty no disrespect to Ken, COC is not a camp, its a park on the mt. lets keep it real.
stupendous-man
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JWeinstock
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uhhhh. maybe because he owns it?
i mean im going to windells but that is a little biased
i mean im going to windells but that is a little biased
roddy116
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windells is amazing, coaches arent going to push you but they will help you if you ask for help. park is great, and the people you meet there are amazing.
I cant speak for COC but from what i have heard its a great park, but the weather is really iffy, and the coaching is not as good.
mhssc is literally (and geographically) below windells. so shut up about mhssc.
I cant speak for COC but from what i have heard its a great park, but the weather is really iffy, and the coaching is not as good.
mhssc is literally (and geographically) below windells. so shut up about mhssc.
L.G.P.
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im going to windells for the first time this july. should be pretty sweet considering that i dont really get the chance to ski in the summer too often. but anyway i dont really think that i could choose between COC or Windells because they basically offer the same things but the way the parks are set up are a little different.
p-fo
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The people hating in here clearly don't know what they're talking about, and clearly haven't been to MHSSC.
Basically, wherever you go, you're going to have an ill time, and every camp has a private park, good coaches, good food, a flybed, and will pick you up at the airport. It all comes down to what you want out of the camp experience. There is no "best" camp. If you want to hit an airbag and ski with Tom Wallisch, then Windell's, COC or Momentum are for you. If you want to ski as much as possible for as little money as possible, then MHSSC is your spot. I'm not gonna lie to you, and I'm not going to talk shit about other camps because I haven't been to them. All I'm gonna say is what I do know: this is a tight camp, and plenty of kids come here and progress a lot and have a lot of fun.
I'm a counselor, so feel free to PM me if you have other questions, or post in the official thread.
Basically, wherever you go, you're going to have an ill time, and every camp has a private park, good coaches, good food, a flybed, and will pick you up at the airport. It all comes down to what you want out of the camp experience. There is no "best" camp. If you want to hit an airbag and ski with Tom Wallisch, then Windell's, COC or Momentum are for you. If you want to ski as much as possible for as little money as possible, then MHSSC is your spot. I'm not gonna lie to you, and I'm not going to talk shit about other camps because I haven't been to them. All I'm gonna say is what I do know: this is a tight camp, and plenty of kids come here and progress a lot and have a lot of fun.
I'm a counselor, so feel free to PM me if you have other questions, or post in the official thread.
stupendous-man
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If hes talking about their campuses, mhssc is a couple thousand feet higher than windells. their parks are hardly different in elevation anyway.
Granby_killdozer
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I'm curious... Have you actually been to MHSSC?
Windells
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Hey guys, Windells has more to offer than any other camp out there. Our park is over a mile long and completely private for campers, coaches and invited pros only. We have 2 rope tows in our park so you can lap with your coach and friends all day long. There are 50-60 features set up each session to intrigue skiers and snowboarders of all skill levels. Windells has an amazing campus which most camps have nothing to even compare. We have our huge concrete jungle skatepark that skate pros from all over the world come to skate. We also have our indoor BOB facility which is currently getting a face lift. A 12,000 sq ft indoor skate park and trampoline facility with 2 olympic sized trampolines and a foam pit.
If thats not enough to get you out here for the summer. We have tons of sponsor who come out and do awesome contests and games with the campers and give away tons of prizes! at Our end of session raffle everyone is sure to walk away with some sponsor swag. We also have some of the best pros riding our park and hanging out on campus with the campers. Want to meet the B-dog, E-dollo and Tanner? come out for the inspired media session 3 takeover. Wanna run park laps with Tom Wallisch? Get out here for session 7. Its going to be another great summer here on hood.
Camp Of Champions will not be having their compound this year. so no place to skate, or hang out with your crew.
Come to Windells and get the full summer camp experience!
Session 1: TBA
Session 2: Line / Full Tilt
Session 3: Inspired Media
Session 4: Surface Skis
Session 5: Level 1 Productions
Session 6: Freeskier
Session 7: Tom Wallisch
If thats not enough to get you out here for the summer. We have tons of sponsor who come out and do awesome contests and games with the campers and give away tons of prizes! at Our end of session raffle everyone is sure to walk away with some sponsor swag. We also have some of the best pros riding our park and hanging out on campus with the campers. Want to meet the B-dog, E-dollo and Tanner? come out for the inspired media session 3 takeover. Wanna run park laps with Tom Wallisch? Get out here for session 7. Its going to be another great summer here on hood.
Camp Of Champions will not be having their compound this year. so no place to skate, or hang out with your crew.
Come to Windells and get the full summer camp experience!
Session 1: TBA
Session 2: Line / Full Tilt
Session 3: Inspired Media
Session 4: Surface Skis
Session 5: Level 1 Productions
Session 6: Freeskier
Session 7: Tom Wallisch
Freeskier_boi
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This will be a fking hard choice... ahha
Freeskier_boi
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Yes it sounds that it's good too!
stupendous-man
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Think of it this way: the parks on hill are basically the same, windells has an airbag though which is the only big difference. coaching at mhssc is said to be better, whereas at windells you get some help but a lot of the time your coaches want to ski alot themselves so there isnt as much instruction time. but i have been to neither and am just basing this off of what ive heard.
mhssc campus is definitely less exciting, but they have plenty to keep you entertained still. they have a flybed tramp (better than windells, source: friends who have used both), a miniramp, and a bunch of other random jazz. on the other hand windells has some incredible skateparks and a dryslope, plus tramps and a foam pit. there are fewer big name pros at mhssc to stalk around and try to gather the balls to talk to. food situation is pretty similar when it comes to the meals, but mhssc has a free 24 hour soda machine and a gas station next door for your junk food needs (there is a gas station nextdoor to windells too but unfortunately you cant leave the campus and walk the 10 feet to get there). windells just has a bunch of overpriced junk food for snacking.
Go to MHSSC and have enough money left over to buy an entire new setup for next season.
mhssc campus is definitely less exciting, but they have plenty to keep you entertained still. they have a flybed tramp (better than windells, source: friends who have used both), a miniramp, and a bunch of other random jazz. on the other hand windells has some incredible skateparks and a dryslope, plus tramps and a foam pit. there are fewer big name pros at mhssc to stalk around and try to gather the balls to talk to. food situation is pretty similar when it comes to the meals, but mhssc has a free 24 hour soda machine and a gas station next door for your junk food needs (there is a gas station nextdoor to windells too but unfortunately you cant leave the campus and walk the 10 feet to get there). windells just has a bunch of overpriced junk food for snacking.
Go to MHSSC and have enough money left over to buy an entire new setup for next season.
stupendous-man
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The Camp of Champions was the first camp to have freeskiing before there was even twintips, before 1080's, before Johnny Mosely and the Dinner Roll, before it was even freeskiing. After all these years we still know how to make your week the most amazing good time ever on a pair
skis with more progression that you could ever imagine. There are a lot of camp choices out there for sure. They are all slightly different camps doing sort of the same thing. You only have a few summers to make your dream of getting sponsored and going pro come true so you definitely don't want to choose the wrong camp and be riding the lift looking over at the park you wish you were skiing.
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At COC we've chosen to concentrate on slopestyle. As far as who has the best park, I'll leave that up to the National Slopestyle Teams that need the best summer facilities to progress so they can own it the following winter, to say what park is the best. Careers are on the line so they don't have time to waste in a park that is a cartoon drawing, too steep or a simply a substandard park.
This summer, the Canadian, US, New Zealand and Norwegian National Slopestyle Teams have selected COC as their preferred place to train. If you checked the podiums last year on the AFP Tour (which also selected COC as their official summer camp), those teams pretty much had every spot on lock. They pay to train at COC. That is the opposite of being paid to turn up and be celebrities or coaches for a day. That should tell you what camp has the best park. They might be paid to be celebrities at other camps during the summer, but when they want to learn, they pay to come to COC, just like they did when they were campers just learning to ski park.
Coaching at COC is really hands on in small groups. All the coaching is one-on-one so you learn the most you can in the shortest time possible. The coaches really care about how much you learn and push you in fun ways to progress as quickly as possible. You'll learn more than you ever imagined. As one camper last summer put it so well... "It's like filling your bag of tricks with both hands". With Olympic, X Games and AFP Tour podiums on the line you want the best coaches to ensure you have the best possible chance to stand on the podium. To make sure that Bobby Brown, Tom Wallisch, Gus Kenworthy, Sammy Carlson and the other members of the US Team have the best shot to podium, the US Team chose former COC coaches to make that happen. The last two head coaches for the US Slopestyle Team were former COC coaches. Skogen Sprang and Evan Raps. Your coach this summer will continue the tradition of coaching excellence whether your personal goal is bragging rights in your local park or an Olympic podium. Five or ten years from now, it might be you bragging about how your coach at summer camp is now the head coach of an Olympic Team or an Olympic medalist.
As far as "No Compound" goes, Tim is right and wrong. Right that there is no compound but wrong on everything else. We asked the campers last year if they would rather be away from the village up at staff housing with the compound and all the fun that it is, just like at other camps, or at the Holiday Inn, dead center in the heart of Whistler , the best ski town on earth, with the entire town as their compound, with so many places to hang out with your friends and so much fun stuff to do that it's crazy. The answer was a resounding "VILLAGE!!!"
It wasn't a surprise really, the skatepark is across the street, mini golf is a block away one way, The driving range a block the other way, Starbucks, Earl's Restaurant and Mongolie Grill and the movie theater are right downstairs. Bungee Jumping, paintball and Bounce Academy and two lakes are a couple minutes away. Meals are at actual restaurants or from actual restaurants with amazing food instead of cafeteria food that is cooked by a bro who's just there for the free skiing in exchange for pretending to be a cook. Living in the dead center of the most fun town on earth with pros from all over the world as your fellow campers, coaches and friends with the lifts a two minute walk away instead of a 20 minute bus ride, is pretty great compared to being stuck in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do but skate or hangout in a compound like facility. We think it was a great trade. Once you get here and see how much fun you can have in Whistler, you will too.
Also to make COC even more epic this summer, to celebrate our 25th anniversary, if you are one of the next 25 people to register for Camp D, 4FRNT Week, you'll get a free pair of 4FRNT park skis handed to you by the owner of 4FRNT, Matt Sterbenz, who was once a COC camper, digger, coach and head coach who is now the founder and owner of 4FRNT. Freeskiing, free skis, epic pros and amazing good times. Life doesn't get much better than a week at COC.
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skis with more progression that you could ever imagine. There are a lot of camp choices out there for sure. They are all slightly different camps doing sort of the same thing. You only have a few summers to make your dream of getting sponsored and going pro come true so you definitely don't want to choose the wrong camp and be riding the lift looking over at the park you wish you were skiing.
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At COC we've chosen to concentrate on slopestyle. As far as who has the best park, I'll leave that up to the National Slopestyle Teams that need the best summer facilities to progress so they can own it the following winter, to say what park is the best. Careers are on the line so they don't have time to waste in a park that is a cartoon drawing, too steep or a simply a substandard park.
This summer, the Canadian, US, New Zealand and Norwegian National Slopestyle Teams have selected COC as their preferred place to train. If you checked the podiums last year on the AFP Tour (which also selected COC as their official summer camp), those teams pretty much had every spot on lock. They pay to train at COC. That is the opposite of being paid to turn up and be celebrities or coaches for a day. That should tell you what camp has the best park. They might be paid to be celebrities at other camps during the summer, but when they want to learn, they pay to come to COC, just like they did when they were campers just learning to ski park.
Coaching at COC is really hands on in small groups. All the coaching is one-on-one so you learn the most you can in the shortest time possible. The coaches really care about how much you learn and push you in fun ways to progress as quickly as possible. You'll learn more than you ever imagined. As one camper last summer put it so well... "It's like filling your bag of tricks with both hands". With Olympic, X Games and AFP Tour podiums on the line you want the best coaches to ensure you have the best possible chance to stand on the podium. To make sure that Bobby Brown, Tom Wallisch, Gus Kenworthy, Sammy Carlson and the other members of the US Team have the best shot to podium, the US Team chose former COC coaches to make that happen. The last two head coaches for the US Slopestyle Team were former COC coaches. Skogen Sprang and Evan Raps. Your coach this summer will continue the tradition of coaching excellence whether your personal goal is bragging rights in your local park or an Olympic podium. Five or ten years from now, it might be you bragging about how your coach at summer camp is now the head coach of an Olympic Team or an Olympic medalist.
As far as "No Compound" goes, Tim is right and wrong. Right that there is no compound but wrong on everything else. We asked the campers last year if they would rather be away from the village up at staff housing with the compound and all the fun that it is, just like at other camps, or at the Holiday Inn, dead center in the heart of Whistler , the best ski town on earth, with the entire town as their compound, with so many places to hang out with your friends and so much fun stuff to do that it's crazy. The answer was a resounding "VILLAGE!!!"
It wasn't a surprise really, the skatepark is across the street, mini golf is a block away one way, The driving range a block the other way, Starbucks, Earl's Restaurant and Mongolie Grill and the movie theater are right downstairs. Bungee Jumping, paintball and Bounce Academy and two lakes are a couple minutes away. Meals are at actual restaurants or from actual restaurants with amazing food instead of cafeteria food that is cooked by a bro who's just there for the free skiing in exchange for pretending to be a cook. Living in the dead center of the most fun town on earth with pros from all over the world as your fellow campers, coaches and friends with the lifts a two minute walk away instead of a 20 minute bus ride, is pretty great compared to being stuck in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do but skate or hangout in a compound like facility. We think it was a great trade. Once you get here and see how much fun you can have in Whistler, you will too.
Also to make COC even more epic this summer, to celebrate our 25th anniversary, if you are one of the next 25 people to register for Camp D, 4FRNT Week, you'll get a free pair of 4FRNT park skis handed to you by the owner of 4FRNT, Matt Sterbenz, who was once a COC camper, digger, coach and head coach who is now the founder and owner of 4FRNT. Freeskiing, free skis, epic pros and amazing good times. Life doesn't get much better than a week at COC.
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*steeze_is_good
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Beeeeeeeeeef
I'm not gonna lie... this thread got HOT quickly. 
Which camp is the hardest decision ever, but don't for a second think IF you should go to camp. Camp is the freaking greatest time in the universe. Sure it costs a few bucks, but what in life that is amazing doesn't?
So just make sure you get out to camp boys and girls.
Which camp is the hardest decision ever, but don't for a second think IF you should go to camp. Camp is the freaking greatest time in the universe. Sure it costs a few bucks, but what in life that is amazing doesn't?
So just make sure you get out to camp boys and girls.
Freeskier_boi
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Looks sick!