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Makressman

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Any tips on properly sending off bigger

Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact. Also getting confidence up to do it.

Yup

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topic:Makressman said:
Any tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)
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What 60 foot cliffs have you been sending lately? That's bigger than anything I have ever seen skied inbounds at a resort.
 
It's just like hucking 20-30' cliffs except you're in the air longer and it hurts more when you land.

Post a vid next time you get after it.
 
13995960:Quaff said:
What 60 foot cliffs have you been sending lately? That's bigger than anything I have ever seen skied inbounds at a resort.
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I'm pretty sure Air Jordan at Whis is like 50ish ft, and I've seen some shit go down on that from peak chair line. I can't say I've ever dropped anything 40-60 ftish but I'd just assume its like any other big cliff drop and you just need stay tight through your core and try to land stacked and absorb.
 
In my experience, anything over like the 50 foot mark is more conditions based than anything else for most of us "average" skiers. Be patient, wait for the right storm cycle. When I drop anyting that size I want to be fully confident that I could land on my head and still be ok. That's a huge peace of mind when you're about to ski off of something huge. Probe the landing, or hike the zone in the summer, so that you know there's nothing in there that will destroy you. Knowledge that the landing is really good is the biggest thing that helps me get in the right mindset to actually ski off of something large.

Learn how to hot-tub. Trying to stomp straight to your feet off a really big hit is a bad idea. Instead, be ready to colapse to your hip as you land. It makes for a softer impact, and also helps you scrub speed, then you can stand back up and claim it.

Other than that, I'm always a little extra carefull when I go off something bigger. Release test boots and bindings regularly, wear a back protector, have a buddy ready if something goes wrong, mouth gaurd is a good idea, don't use your pole straps.

Some folks have the skill to drop big stuff. Others have the snowpack and patience. Start out with the snowpack and the patience, get a feel for it, and grow into the skill.
 
13996040:cydwhit said:
In my experience, anything over like the 50 foot mark is more conditions based than anything else for most of us "average" skiers. Be patient, wait for the right storm cycle. When I drop anyting that size I want to be fully confident that I could land on my head and still be ok. That's a huge peace of mind when you're about to ski off of something huge. Probe the landing, or hike the zone in the summer, so that you know there's nothing in there that will destroy you. Knowledge that the landing is really good is the biggest thing that helps me get in the right mindset to actually ski off of something large.

Learn how to hot-tub. Trying to stomp straight to your feet off a really big hit is a bad idea. Instead, be ready to colapse to your hip as you land. It makes for a softer impact, and also helps you scrub speed, then you can stand back up and claim it.

Other than that, I'm always a little extra carefull when I go off something bigger. Release test boots and bindings regularly, wear a back protector, have a buddy ready if something goes wrong, mouth gaurd is a good idea, don't use your pole straps.

Some folks have the skill to drop big stuff. Others have the snowpack and patience. Start out with the snowpack and the patience, get a feel for it, and grow into the skill.
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This ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.
 
13996100:shin-bang said:
This ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.
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In my experience, the best way to hot tub is keep your legs strong through impact, but let go of your upper body a bit. Like he said loosen up the hip and let it get thrown back rather than staying forward like usual. I've heard of people using backpacks and putting pillows in them as well to soften the landing, which seems like it's a good idea for anything big.
 
13996100:shin-bang said:
This ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.
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Mouthgaurd is always worth it. I shattered my front teeth when I was younger when I landed on my head mountain biking and I bit together so hard on impact. That shit cost my parents $8,000.
 
13996100:shin-bang said:
This ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.
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What he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

 
13996252:OregonDead said:
What he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

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I don’t know what the fuck you are doing, but that is not how I dive into a hot tub…
 
Ya'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here
 
40-60 feet

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topic:Makressman said:
Any tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)

Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact. Also getting confidence up to do it.

Yup
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13996252:OregonDead said:
What he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

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Finally someone else who understands the proper way to land big cliffs. It's all about having your skis being above you when you hit the snow. This allows them to take advantage of cryogenic hydrodynamics and act as a snow parachute gently setting you on the ground below.
 
13996424:Walka said:
Finally someone else who understands the proper way to land big cliffs. It's all about having your skis being above you when you hit the snow. This allows them to take advantage of cryogenic hydrodynamics and act as a snow parachute gently setting you on the ground below.
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ME NO UNDERSTANDO you really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to understand "cryogenic hydrodynamics"
 
13996371:Quaff said:
Ya'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here
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A surprising number of folks are actually.
 
Stomping is like... exactly the same as any other cliff, but on really big stuff hot tubbing can be a good idea sometimes. I went a bit too big on a cliff the other weekend and pulverized my cheekbone from a knee to face landing, not the best time.
 
13996252:OregonDead said:
What he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.
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We're going to need a personal demonstration from you preferably over a cliff that's >20ft so you can see how dumb that technique would be

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I've found personally that speed can help you plane and stay on top on the snow when you land, as opposed to just punching through and stopping, (see big picture edits for examples of this), but I also don't huck 40 to 60 footers so take my advice with a grain of salt.
 
13996780:cydwhit said:
A surprising number of folks are actually.
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You're not* gonna have to back yourself up with some video. How big do you think that cliff is in your photo?

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13996964:VinnieF said:
You're not* gonna have to back yourself up with some video. How big do you think that cliff is in your photo?

**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2019 at 10:31:48pm
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Photoshop says it's 15 Cy's, stacked head to toe. I'm 6'1" so....

And my name may be orange, but that's because of photos, arts, and writing. Definitely on the low end of "amateur" skiers.
 
13996980:cydwhit said:
Photoshop says it's 15 Cy's, stacked head to toe. I'm 6'1" so....

And my name may be orange, but that's because of photos, arts, and writing. Definitely on the low end of "amateur" skiers.
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Just wondered if you measured it while there.. this cliff is something like 70:

To me yours looks like 40 directly down, but hard to say how far you actually went.
 
topic:Makressman said:
Any tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)

Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact.
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Christ bud 40-60 is pretty big. Probably should have started doing squats months ago.
 
13996371:Quaff said:
Ya'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here
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Hit up the user dickdeck for his Alta footage. Though sadly he’s not really on here anymore. I think he still has the same computer since I last saw him so he should have the videos.
 
13996371:Quaff said:
Ya'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here
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Yeah are you measuring height of the cliff or the distance your getting out of it? Corbet’s Cant be over 30’...
 
Start following my insta- brentbensonphotography. Lot of times I'll film a cliff jump and put it on my instagram story. That way you can see the unedited raw version on how's it's done.
 
13997768:BensonPhoto said:
Start following my insta- brentbensonphotography. Lot of times I'll film a cliff jump and put it on my instagram story. That way you can see the unedited raw version on how's it's done.
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Only NS would downvote Brett benson giving a super good answer to the thread’s question haha wtf
 
I was just trying to help, I guess they want to learn the hard way. There's a reason why Tanner, Durtschi, and Pierre had me there when they are doing something big. Because they trust me and know I will get the shot.
 
I jumped a 60 footer last year. Honestly I wouldn't recommend it unless it's been a lifelong goal and you'll never be fulfilled if you don't do it. If you must, make sure there's tons of snow and you have someone to dig you out. There's really not much skill involved you just ski over the edge.
 
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