i think it's worth it just to revive the presidents, good call chris.  at my orientation for the U last summer, at night we had Chris and Tad play for us, it's the singer from the Presidents, and some guy named Tad playing on toy instruments.  not the same old school grundge tad, anyone remember HIM?!  oh man, saww them live once.....half an hour of loud guitar, and blowing into a microphone....sweet sweet harmony.
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