man i don't understand why everyone always over looks the foils. they fuking rip the groomers. when i first got the ski and they were in their prime (aka no rails yet) they could handle anything. their side cut isn't too much either, don't remember exactly what it is, but you can rip any sized turns no worries. if you get alot of snow you might want something a little more underfoot but personally im real happy with my skis