canadian panel pushes legalization of weed

didn't this thread have a few replies? and if i remember none of them were in any way insulting or anything

Bellisimo... Its Italian for grouse
 
I think england is pushing to legalise it too.

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First and formost that David Griffen fellow needs to be knocked right the fuck out man. Who the fuck is he to tell me not to smoke a tree?? I'ma take my chances with a doctor thanks. Secondly are we not intitled to religious freedom in North America?? Who the fuck is he to decide what religion is?? I live by my own codes and smokeing is very much a part of my life. I'm a productive member of scociety, firstly in the shitty educational system I'm subjected to, I bite the pillow and pull off my 85's. Secondly the 'religion' I'm into has no structure but I meditate and study every day (as well as smoke) How many of you catholics, muslims etc. practice your faith for more than 4 hours every day (smoking time not included there)?? Finaly, I'm one of the few people under the age of 20 I know trying to make this country a better place. There are so many problems. Lets start of with the most pressing, we supposidly live in a democracy on which equality is a corner stone but I look at the census results of our two countries and I don't see it. Secondly democratic participation?? And also did the government also not flood L.A> with crack and guns in the 80's?? I really can't see why I'm not allowed to puf my leaf.

Peace

 
because if people use it irresponsibly, they could kill people, kinda like drinking and driving i guess.. i dont know

 
S owhy is alcohol legal and weed isnt? They shouldnt have a double standard, i think weed is less mind altering than drinking alot is.

What is the colour of a mirror?
 
My thought on the most simplest reason why weed isn't legal is second hand... So you have a guy or a couple of guys smoking somewhere out in public (of course it's going to be illegal like an open container, but how many times are you going to get caught in that situation), so you have little children getting contact buzzes, and maybe even me, I don't really want one either. But that's about all I can say for the harmful communal effects of marijuana.

And religion, we need some kind of limits, if you could practice whatever religion then the KKK could justify expunging blacks, jews, muslims, and everyone else they hate.

 
physically healthier, I'm not talking about any kind of carbon or pollutant intoxication to the lungs, I'm talking about people getting a contact buzz when they don't want one.

 
Not going to happen. They will probably say u can do it in private, but not in bars or anything liek that, you would get fined like open alcohol.

And it sounds liek early 2003 we may get some legislation now!

What is the colour of a mirror?
 
A contact buzz is a definit risk for small children especially. Legalizing isn't the answer. Decriminalizing is. Keeps it out of public places where people who don't want to be around it, aren't. They should just keep the fine high enough to keep weed out of sight.

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'You're old enough to know that you won't get a lot of things in life because you don't have tits' - One of the 1/4 pipe builders at snowjam winnipeg to a couple young boys in response to why we'd let 3 girls on the ramp and not them

Don't think just jump.

 
open container fine here is like 150 dollars, though the law will certainly exist, there's gonna be a fair share of people doing in low security public places, but they'll probably be migatory because people will eventually complain.

 
I was just thinkg about this but i think i am just going to stop caring if it is legal or not. I smoke pretty much everyday already and never really worry about cops that much unless i am carrying a bunch in public. Even if it was lega in the staes it would be 21 and i would still get yelled at by my parents. Isnt colorado a fine of like 100 and a petty arest or something for possession? so that isnt bad at all really. i know a kid who got a 1,500 in fines this summer when they got pulled over

Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers an estimated $10 billion annually and results in the arrest of more than 734,000 individuals per year -- far more than the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.' - www.norml.org

 
Does anyone live in Vancouver? It's like nobody here cares. It's great. You smell it in the schools, the buses, the stores, the houses...

And about 'A contact buzz is a definit risk for small children especially. ' Do you know how difficult it is to get a contact buzz unless someone blows it in your face?

No, it's NOT a huge risk.

And what did one guy say about people might kill each other? wtf man! if someone is going to kill a person, it doesn;t matter if pot's legal. If the guys stoned, he'd probably forget about it. Like the gouvernement tells you 'Pot kills motivation!'

peace, love and thanks

A moment is the most you can ever expect from perfection.
 
either way, canada is using a scientific report that prove alcohol is worse than weed to help legalize it

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a lot of people don't really know shit about pot. all they know is that it's illegal - therefor has to be very bad for you and not many people do it.

like, they interview'ed this one dude on the news and asked him if pot should be legal. his answer was no: if it's legal people will start smokin' and driving causing more accidents. - yo, wtf? that dude is a dumbass.

but again - don't get too hyped up, chances are it's not going to happen (didn't in the 70's, so why now?)

Darryl Hunt

'it's all about style' - sign outside the Dufferin County Museum
 
dude they have been studying the drug for so long, and they can't find shit on it. It causes short term memory losses. It does harm your lungs. But your lungs heal in 6 months. Cigareetes hurt your lungs, because they have like 5000 chemicals in them. People are pissed off causes taxes money is basically being thrown away to something that will never be stopped, and fuck the government is dumb not to relize this. Studies even show a mildly stoned driver is better than the average driver. The tend to ease off the accelerator. Weed does not make people mad, unlike alcohol, which causes rowdyness. its gonna be legalized soon, very soon.

 
the only bad thing that comes from pot as far as I can see is that long term users have not only short term memory loss, but also have some difficulty concentrating. This can be fixed by easing the use.

and fuck it, the whole lack of motivation is a lie. the only people who use pot and lack motivation are the people who started using it as an excuse.

have proof.

A moment is the most you can ever expect from perfection.
 
people need to stop being so anal about it. i mean i smoke it everyday and i think i concentrate alot better in school. because you really can concentrate on one thing at a time. like in england or something they did a study about driving while stoned. they said that the stoned drivers where more carefukl than drunk ones and they went either at the speed limit or below it. so who the hell are we hurting? certainly not ourselves or anyone else....

 
i like smokin' when i gotta drive long distances...

oh, and about the attention span thing - i gotta smoke to calm my shit down. when i'm sober i'm always fidgity (sp?) and when i'm drunk i'm always going on mission after mission... i got too much energy for my own good... also makes me think of shit instead of talk about shit...

but um, yea - all who are against legalization can go to hell and never come back... EVER

Darryl Hunt

'it's all about style' - sign outside the Dufferin County Museum
 
i guess ill bring this up again to piss ppl off:

There I was, standing alone. The mob was closing in around me. Hundreds, maybe thousands of malodorous, dirt-encrusted bodies, staggering , eyes glassy, muttering, movements jerky like zombies…where was I? A bad dream? A B-movie on Space? In the pits of Hell?

Well, close on all three counts. I wandered onto the street in the midst of pro-pot rally.

There they were, most of them in their teens or early 20s, many with their hair in dreadlocks, which on white people just looks dirty, unwashed, unthinking…just shambling along, following the staggerer in front of them for direction, and chanting various mantras about legalizing marijuana.

Of all the things to gather in protest for in this world, with racism, war, cruelty to animals, government misspending, child poverty increasing…these people's cause is getting high. And if that right away doesn't prove pot affects your decision-making ability, nothing will.

How do I feel about legalizing marijuana? Quite frankly, I don't use marijuana, never have and can't ever see a desire to do so. I think that anyone who has to use drugs or alcohol to have a good time is a sad and pathetic waste of skin who is usually only amusing to other similarly sad and pathetic losers. And anyone who uses any substance to escape their problems is an idiot - you don't escape, you only avoid, and half the time delaying dealing with problems only compounds them.

That being said, we let people make complete asses of themselves in so many other ways -- just look at Karaoke-- that I doubt we can really stop them from doing it with drugs. And unnecessarily harsh marijuana laws have filled our prisons, jammed our courts and wasted police effort that could be put to greater use.

However, the justifications that most pro-pot people use for legalizing weed are just plain stupid. Like the idea that weed is less dangerous than alcohol - well, there's two responses for that. One, no it isn't, it's just dangerous in different ways. And two, that's like saying a kick in the ass is less harmful than a kick in the yams.

Alcohol abuse may be the single most destructive element in our society. It leads to domestic violence, dissolution of the family unit, sexual assault, traffic fatalities…so saying smoking weed is comparatively less dangerous is hardly persuasive that it's harmless. Plus, the only reason alcohol abuse is more pervasive than weed abuse is that it's more available - because it's legal. Intoxicants are intoxicants...and both stem from the root word 'toxic'.

Hey, you think I'm cool? Of course you do! And do you think I fit in here? With the shiny, happy lobotomy victims who shill for the meaningless tripe we play all day long? They hate my guts here, because I tell it like it is, and I don't kiss anyone's butt. So who would you rather be? Me, or those corporate robots?

No, the only real justification I can see for making weed legal is that it will automatically make it less cool. Let's face it, the only reason kids think weed is cool is because it's illegal, and doing it meshes real well with a teenager's desire for rebellion. Every puff is like giving the finger to the adult culture that surrounds them but won't let them in.

And that's what makes marijuana dangerous. In youth-targeted movies, TV and especially music, smoking weed is presented as the ticket into the cool club. Adults who choose to get high are adults, whom we presume have learned a sense of restraint and responsibility - neither of which are traits you can ascribe to most teenagers, especially the ones who do things just to be cool. Their zeal is untempered by the perspective and sensibility provided by life experience alone. So they do it to belong, to blend in, and frequently, they think that more of a cool thing will make them more cool. So they overdo it.

Not to mention the fact that puberty itself makes a teenager's brain a stew of conflicting and shifting chemicals, none of which is helped by the effects of mind-alerting substances. Bottom line - marijuana is just more dangerous for young people, yet they are the ones it's being pushed on by the supposed forces of 'what's hip'.

So maybe the best way to get teenagers to do things that benefit them instead of hurting them is to make weed legal and homework illegal. That way they'll lose interest in one, and gain interest in the other. And if weed is legal, maybe then these protestors can finally find the time to bathe.

I'm Ed the Sock.

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'Pro - peagna? What the fuck is that?' - my friend looking at my Propaganda DvD (he's not to bright)

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You are whack! Do you drink coffee or coca cola, caffeine is like legal speed. How can you be against something that doesn't at all affect you. If anything you should be for legalization because fighting against weed wastes your tax money. You are a 'pathetic waste of skin' for dissing weed smokers, it doesn't make us bad people. I think you have some other issues you are dealing with, maybe you're on a prescription. I don't understand how someone as anal as you can't smoke weed.

 
yea, ok - what dez just wrote is the words of 'Ed the Sock'. if you dont' know him (damn americans) he's a vj for MuchMusic (Canada's MTV) and has his own show on CityTV. he hates everyone and everything and it's funny shit when he makes fun of people

Darryl Hunt

'it's all about style' - sign outside the Dufferin County Museum
 
Even beyond caffiene look at ephedra. it is in diet pills and people will actually twitch from it its hebal speed. You can buy it fomr head shops and it can fuck you up bad siezures and stuff. But yea my dad drinks a bunch of cofee and drinks mountain dew has high cholesterol and smokes and has a family history of heart attacks but for me to smoke it is horrible

Dez do you serioulsy believe that guy? Whoever wrote that should be beaten, give me a list of what is dangerous about it? And I know lots of people who get weed easier than alcohol. A friend of mines guy will drop off within a half hour usually.

Motivation stuff though its like that when im sotned though ill start thinking about school or like what i would do after high school and when im baked its like fuck doing homrwork why even go to college? just move somewhere out west and ski and smoke. There really isnt a single reason it should be illegal it is so much safer than tons of other stuff.

Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers an estimated $10 billion annually and results in the arrest of more than 734,000 individuals per year -- far more than the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.' - www.norml.org

 
though its not for me, never have done it, probably never will, i see no harm in legalizing it, its just like alcohol, but in fact alcohol is worse

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ahahaha... just quit bitching that its not legal and smoke some up geez, cuz your wasting valuable time. i havent done weed, am i curious? yes, and when i get the chance ill try it and see what its like. but even if it is as fun as my loser friend says it is still think that i dont want it legalized.

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'Pro - peagna? What the fuck is that?' - my friend looking at my Propaganda DvD (he's not to bright)

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aright, contact buzz?? who the heck said that??? ME?? Were you drunk?? noo....i don't know what i was thinking..

Decriminalize, small posession fine. Throw a billion into health care education or the budget. problem solved.

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'You're old enough to know that you won't get a lot of things in life because you don't have tits' - One of the 1/4 pipe builders at snowjam winnipeg to a couple young boys in response to why we'd let 3 girls on the ramp and not them

Don't think just jump.

 
In vancouver they haven't arrested anyone for minor possession in 5 years. My buddy go caught with around 2 oz. and they just took it, probably to smoke it.

 
There's limits to our liberties at least I hope and pray that there are. So that means that just cause your religion tells you to piss on rapes doesn't mean you can go around pissing on grapes. All religion should be outlawed anyways. You people complain about old white guys ruling your life but most of this religion involves a bunch of lying shit that was CREATED from the oldest white guys on the world.

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dez, this winter buddy.

Darryl Hunt

'it's all about style' - sign outside the Dufferin County Museum
 
I think that 'short term memory' stuff is bullshit. I've been smoking like at least once aday for a long time know and I yeah I get burnt out but it goes away. Most of you probably don't understand the mind, the conscious and the subconscious, I would suggest you go and read some books by miller. Short term memory is of little importance (to a point). (Read miller before you contradict me) I think the problem is that most heavy marijuana users are unfocused by nature an the lifestyle really doesn't help. It's the fault of the individual and not the plant. And if any of you are really interested go pick up the book 'Running on Emptiness' by John Zerzan and read the first essay on symbolic thought, once you read this it becomes very clear that marijuana is completely healthy. (There is no mention of marijuan in this book, just about the mind)

Peace

 
Ya my mom used to work at the cancer agency and they used to give all the patients 'synthtetic marijuana' as a pain killer. Turned out that it sucked though so t hey gave them these other drugs,

'cause i don't get twon days of in a road silly' me trying to make sense

'why is panties plural but bra is singular?'

-are you still drinking jf?

-no no no... thats uhhh all behind me, why? are you buying?

 
my drivers ed teacher said he'd rather smoke an ounce and drive than drink a keg and drive. I believe the spirits have spoken.

 
bah, id smoke it up w ya darryl but i have no way to stay in c wood.. i get up there by joining the ravens *shuters*

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'Pro - peagna? What the fuck is that?' - my friend looking at my Propaganda DvD (he's not to bright)

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Actually, i read a study probably 4 or 5 years ago that said most people drive better under the influence of cannabis then they do while sober.

Seeing as how a lot of people seem to ski better high..that doesn't surprise me at all.

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'You're old enough to know that you won't get a lot of things in life because you don't have tits' - One of the 1/4 pipe builders at snowjam winnipeg to a couple young boys in response to why we'd let 3 girls on the ramp and not them

Don't think just jump.

 
feck off, light it up roll it smoke it up whhhhaaaat.

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'Dude if she's old enough to pee, she's old enough for me.' Dave pauls while taking a 14 yeard old girl up to his bedroom for some 'snacks' and 'pop'.

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yeah i think it was new scientist which said that drivers were more dangerous after a glass of wine than after a joint

 
its known to people that smoke but people who havent touched the stuff they probably think you hallucnate(sp?) or some shit

Too high? You fucking pussy. - ski2824

Why is the name of the fear of long words

Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?

 
whoever wrote that like 3 page post is a retard. YOU HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED IT. How can you be so anti-bud. You remind me of one of the 70's weed haters who went around telling everyone if they smoked weed, you would go on crazy killing sprees and be addicted for life. So what if poeple smoke weed. I'm not gonna tell you to pull the cucumber out of your ass, so who are you to say we should stop smoking pot. 'Weed creates mindless losers'. Your a 'tard, unless you've tried it then shut the fuck up and don't ream on shit you don't know about. Saying all pot smokers are burnout losers is such a fuckin stereotype, you should be beat. Its the exact same thing as saying because you've seen a black guy in a gang, there all bad and they are all in gangs. You post was pointless and retarded. Don't ever speak again. COON

 
k weed isn't legal yet cos they haven't found a way to regulate it, liek theresd no breathalizer for pot, as soon as they can regulate it it will be legalized

'Don't like hesh - Don't like rap - kicked ol' sally cos she fat - I'm a jerk I'm a punk took a shower cos I stunk - smoked a bong killed a cat - had my nuts attacked by rats dad got nude - I wore a thong - for a hobby I make bombs' Tom DeLounge

 
leagaliziztion is a great thing, i just hope it doesent backfire and they criminalize alchohol. also, i think that if you lealize weed, crim ein general would go down.. some kid smokes up, dosent get caut, it all good, next day he is at a store, sees some clothes he wants, says that he got away with it last time, mabey i can do it agian. and holland has it legalized, you can get it in coffe shop and stuff. its great. as long as they find a way to regulate it.. and the only probelm is gonna be underage stuff. i mean, alcohol has an age limit, so will weed, but people will break that trust.

Moe.

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Pimps don't pay taxes.
 
heavymetal, get out of your acid trip and fucking listen up you fucking idiot. did you read anything that mike hunt wrote??? ed the sock wrote that, so why dont you just calm the fuck down, wait a few days after your period is done, then read it again and see how funny it is. ed the sock makes fun of everything, so you can just be a bitch about it and look like the retard you are, or you can have a laugh, go out w your friends and smoke it up. maybe you should listen up, bc i want to try it, and if ppl want to do it then they should, because i belive there is way to much censorship of it. so in conclution, fuck off you gay ass. isnt weed suposed to relax you, unlike this fuck? geez

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'Pro - peagna? What the fuck is that?' - my friend looking at my Propaganda DvD (he's not to bright)

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