Can I center-mount ARV

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cgroves

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I run centermount on my AR5's, can I center-mount a pair of ARV's? Or will i miss the mounting plate or fuck up the flex pattern? Is it a good ski to run in park?
 
you can centermount any ski, and all of armada's skis are made to be able to be center mounted. I'm sure they are really dope in the park... they have a sick flex pattern. but if you are planning on having them be a powder ski, mount at least 3 cm back from center.
 
I'm also sure you could have figured out without too much trouble that I am referring to twintips in general, not ANY ski.

But still... If you want to take it that literally, name a ski that absoultely COULD NOT be centermounted.
 
why would you

they are for powder which a tiny bit back wont hurt

you wont be riding switch or doing rails as much as your ar5s anyways
 
And if you want to take me that literally:

remember that all skis still have cores that can be drilled into. Therefore I am cerrtain that if I had the srewes long enough I could take off the biders from a systems ski and drill my way right through the rails, or whatever it is the ski uses, and screw any binding I want in.

It's pretty obvious that I wouldn't be talking about literally "any ski", so get off your high horse. 
 
since they are arv's i would mount them at least -2 or -3 from true center and they would deffinetely rock everywhere except maybe deep deep snow but other wise they would be fine
 
Oh yea, I know that. I am saying that I could find long screws,  cut them to height, take off or fully smash the bindings off of the integrated plates, and drill straight through them, milling and adding custom spacers if needed,  and mount any biding I wanted to on the ski, at center. the bidings might sit a few inches off the ski, but I could do it, even without a jig.

I have a pair of volkl 4stars, which have an intergrated sytem. Yea, I am familiar with them.

Therefore, once again, I challenge you to find any ski at all that I couldn't centermount, because if you want to be picky, I can be very picky, and explain a way i could do it.

Otherwise, don't nitpick. 
 
get them to hold the ski and find the center balance point then measure the distance bewtween the recomended and do 3/4 or half of that.
 
you did say any ski. And the rossignol 9s world cup is a ski that can not be center mounted. Nor can the rossignol mutix, the atomic sl, the rossignol zenith, the nordica oht rod top fuel, the atomic metron b5's. I can do this all day, the point is your wrong so man up and accept that
 
Wow, you didn't read my last post did you? if you did, you would know that you were wrong. so go read it, and accept that it's possible.
 
you know, besides the fact he was talking about you.

Plus, you meant "safely and correctly?" I'm sorr... I thoght you didn't like generalizations! ohhh.. welll then it's allright when you do it, but not anyone else. That makes sense.

I didn't realize that. I just figured that since you have to call out a simple generalization that I made, you wouldn't make any yourself. Looks like I'm wrong again! oh wait... again? I was right the first time.

get over it, cause you can't win. I generalized my first statment, but it is true. 
 
Word. Maybe a sledgehammer if the system is too "integrated" for it's own good. But it can be done. with ANY ski.
 
bullshit, i read your post and i read his. You were the one who is wrong, you said that "ANY SKI can be center mounted". ANY, that means racing skis, carving skis, exc which is dead wrong. Instead of arguing with someone who knows more about this then your probably ever will just shut up because we have allready won
 
well the guy was way wrong. I work in a ski shop and i can say with out any doubt that there are skis that we sell that can not, and i re-state CAN NOT be center mounted
 
Hahaha... I am not going to argue who knows more, but I do know that I could do it on any ski, without a whole lot of trouble.

Who cares if I said any ski. If you look at that and think that's what I meant, then you are stupid, and I wouldn't trust your personal opinion about your technical ability.

You haven't won until you can send me a ski that I can't center mount myself. Want to try? PM me, and I will give you my mailing address.

Just for the record, my argument is this: 

1. I made a generalization by saying "any ski can be centermounted". Obviously, in the context of this thread and this site, I would have assumed that everyone would realize I was talking about twintips. Of course, since this site is so wrought with dumbasses, I was shown that, infact, there are people that would find the smallest technicality and rape it for all it's worth. My bad.

2. It is indeed PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE to centermount ANY SKI and ski it if you have the technical ability (which I have) to do so. I will not make any claim that it will be safe, but it is possible. So even though I made a broad generalization, it, coincidentally, still holds true.

Anyone want to try to prove me wrong? Like I said... Send me a ski I can't centermount and I will admit defeat. Till then, I'm just going to sit back and laugh at you all trying to tell me I can't. PM me for my street adress and I will do it over christmas break, then procede to ski it. I'll post pictures. maybe even video, if i feel like wasting that much time.
 
your stubborness. I don't feel the need to apologize (and i am not looking for one), but you really didn't have to call me out for a stupid generalization, telling me I am "wrong",
 
i never said that he doesnt have some usefull info, but in this case like nomen said hes being a stuborn prick. He should have just said " k guys i messed up" but he didnt. He continues yo argue the point where he is clearly wrong. You cannot center mount any ski, my ecample is the roddignol 9s world cup. That ski has a preset t box thet does not allow you to center mount it.
 
I can agree with that.

As for ski_cartel, the offer still stands if you think you can prove me wrong.

if not, never doubt my technical ability again.  
 
Don't argue if you aren't willing to back it up. Send me a rossignol 9 world cup, and I will centermount it, ski on it,  and send it back to you. 

Like I said. I don't care if you think I am wrong. I'm not. I don't care if you work in a shop. Don't doubt my technical ability.

 
i never once doubted your technical ability but i do doubt that you could center mount that ski with out majorly disrupting the skis integrity and eventually making it un skiable
 
thats exactly what i was saying, its the same way with the rossi 9s. The only way would be to drill into a scetion that would totaly compromise the ski. Not to mention that there is no real way you could mount off the plate without attaching a seperate section to the ski topsheet which would destroy the flex pattern and make the ski dam near unusable
 
Hahahah.

The problem is that everyone is right here:

You can mount any ski however you want, and ski it. It might not be pretty, but sure, you could do it.

BUT

No one in their sane or insane mind, would even bother to centermount say a pair of Rossi Race skis. Why?

BECAUSE THAT IS JUST MESSED TO SHIT.

 
Hey Pleinski! I bet I could make a ski out of an inch-thick solid steel, try mounting bindings onto THAT, asshole!

... What a pointless argument.
 
exactly. It's doable, but completely unreasonable. Everyone here is giving me conditions to meat. I said that ANY skis is mountable center, and you all say that it's not. Then you say "oh... I meant not without compromising the ski and it's flex blah blah blah."

I am getting you all at your own game, and laughing about how worked up you are getting about it. I  can mount any ski at core center. Would I want to? no. would It make sense? of course not. Would it probably break, or have the bindings rip out if I tried to ski it very hard? Most likely.  But it can be done.

My whole point here is that you shouldn't be nitpicky if you don't expect it back.
 
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That's pretty much all I would need to do it along with a little more experience with that type of milling. Sorry.

Of course it's a pointless argument. Why did you bother participating?

 
you also have yet to tell me how you would compensate for the t-box on the rossie 9s, and how you would properly support the toe piece
 
nomensteven and ski_cartel are complete assholes and are perpetrating a fucking RETARDED argument that THEY FUCKING STARTED.

here is the fucking deal you retards: he never said it would be a good idea to center mount any ski, or even that it would stay on once it was center mounted. he said it was possible to drill the fucking bindings onto the center of the fucking ski.

the point of this thread was that YES. you can center mount your ARV's, but do you want to? he answered with the fact that you can indeed mount any ski true center.

the assumption was always that it might not be the best idea.

FUCK YOU IF YOU CALLED HIM OUT YOU FAGGOTS.
 
no fuck you. He said plain and simple that you could mount ANY ski. Then when he was called on it instead of saying "opps, shit guys thats my bad" he furthered the argument. Yes you can center mount arv's but how you you properly mount a pair of metron b5's or rossie 9s's.

Read everything befor you post asshole
 
you can't "properly" mount them. that's pretty much what I have said in my last 2 or 3 posts. You want to know how I would centermount metrons or rossi 9s? I would drill right through all that fancy bullshit. It wouldn't be the proper way to do it. It wouldn't work very well, and probably self destruct. But for the last time IT CAN BE DONE.

If you want to play on nuances, I DID say that ANY ski can be centermounted. You told me that ANY ski can't be. You didn't say that it had to be done "properly" and so it would work, and I decuded that that what what you meant. However, I persued the argument to show you how fucking vain you are.

Also because every time I read this thread and your subsequent posts I get a chuckle. 2 pages is hilarious.

What was said above is completely true. It's a stupid argument.  So stop telling me I can't. 
 
hey pleinski... ignore these fucktards.

they are too busy juggling dildos to realize how fucking stupid they are.

anyone who has agreed with them is fucking gay.

i hope you all give each other HPV.

fucking idiots.
 
Damn, my inch-thick steel plan was foiled... well then... hmmm. .. OH OH. I bet you couldn't mount bindings to skis made of some sort of brittle calcite-like material that disintegrates easily! huh? Yeah! Cause, cause, if you tried, they'd turn to dust or something, and so you're wrong! HA.
 
allright man it was kinda my fault, your right, i didnt state that you had to do it properly, but you didnt state that you ment only twins. Over all it was a bit outragous but you have to agree a good technical argument. Its convorsations like these that get me pumped for the ski season
 
haha.... yea... that's where I was coming from all along. you can't say arguing wasn't fun. That's all I was doing really.
 
Wow, cool thread, really guys. Back to the original question...

Centering ARVs is no problem if you want to do it. Armadas don't have any mounting plate so it's not an issue.
 
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