Can anyone speak on the Volkl Unlimited Ac50 from a few years back Im considering getting a pair.

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dang8701

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I recently posted about some B2s that I bought and took back becuase they were unindemnified.

I have taken the forums advice and am now looking at a couple pairs of skis but have the most interest in the:

Volkl Unlimited Ac50 177 wide ride 2011
https://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/volkl-ac50-ipt-wide-ride-120-bindings

they would be 110 dollars with the store credit from my returned b2s. they are in good shape.

I understand these are advanced skis but I plan to become very serious about skiing as I'm working at Kirkwood near Tahoe until April and get free lessons. I am 6 2 so the shorter 177s might be better for me too? Im looking for skis to grow into so I hope that they are described as unforgiving will only help me with good technique

I did call a couple ski shops to make sure the Volkls are indemnified and it was a difficult response from them. They seemed to think they could work on them, but with no markings on the actual bindings other than IPT wide ride its hard to say exactly what they are other than that they look like exactly the same one s on the link I posted which came prefit to the skis.

K2 Kungfuja (I think 2012s 189 but haven't seen them in person yet.)

also a strong candidate but as I said I've not yet seen them.

thanks for all advice.
 
The skis will work just fine. That said they are a groomer specific ski. I would try to find something a little wider for use in tahoe
 
I've been on the 2008 model of these skis as my main ski the past 2 season and love them. I got mine for free. That said they were great and still are. The #1 thing to consider about the ac50 is that they are incredibally stiff. Personally I had only been on a super flexible ski: the rossi s3, and after skiing on the ac50 unlimited I will probably stay on stiff skis from now on. I like the stability and how direct each movement by me legs responds quickly to the snow through the ski. Great for front side groomers, it will charge the fuck through choppy hard snow. I did a ton of tree skiing and felt extremely confident. Backside pow skiing was okay. Definitley not the type of ski that will sink you, but it is significantly less floaty. If you look at the tip of the ski the width flares out quite a bit and gets pretty damn wide, which helps a ton in the deeper stuff. No twin tips, I hit a few rails with them but it was obvious the ski doesnt want to be in the park.

I think a lot of people would consider this a "dad" ski, but I say its a solid all around rad ski.
 
13857740:RousedWits said:
I've been on the 2008 model of these skis as my main ski the past 2 season and love them. I got mine for free. That said they were great and still are. The #1 thing to consider about the ac50 is that they are incredibally stiff. Personally I had only been on a super flexible ski: the rossi s3, and after skiing on the ac50 unlimited I will probably stay on stiff skis from now on. I like the stability and how direct each movement by me legs responds quickly to the snow through the ski. Great for front side groomers, it will charge the fuck through choppy hard snow. I did a ton of tree skiing and felt extremely confident. Backside pow skiing was okay. Definitley not the type of ski that will sink you, but it is significantly less floaty. If you look at the tip of the ski the width flares out quite a bit and gets pretty damn wide, which helps a ton in the deeper stuff. No twin tips, I hit a few rails with them but it was obvious the ski doesnt want to be in the park.

I think a lot of people would consider this a "dad" ski, but I say its a solid all around rad ski.
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thanks for that

People have considered me a "dad". Like I said I have no interest in park, or moguls so stiffness is fine, but definitely want something that will work in powder and some off the groomed track from time to time. I will continue this pondering
 
13857770:dang8701 said:
thanks for that

People have considered me a "dad". Like I said I have no interest in park, or moguls so stiffness is fine, but definitely want something that will work in powder and some off the groomed track from time to time. I will continue this pondering
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I would strongly urge you to consider what type of skiing you want to be doing/enjoy most much more than the skier "ability" when picking the ski that's right for you. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that not being interested in park or moguls, but wanting to ski powder and groomers you're looking for a good ski but with a more casual ski style. The B2's and the Ac50 both don't seem like skis that fit that description to me. While they are excellent skis no doubt they are the type of ski that you're going to be charging down the mountain with every lap. If you ski with friends most of the time, definitely not the ski for you, since skiing anything less than mach2 in these will probably feel incredibly boring. On the flip side when you do use the skis for what they are designed for, it is likely to be physically exhausting which after half a day of skiing stops being fun.

My suggestion to you would be regardless of the skier rating associated with a ski, find a ski that is definitely wider 90-105mm maybe more depending how much you ski powder, a bit less stiff, and a medium turning radius. This should in general be a much more enjoyable ski. As for the associated skier ability, higher doesn't = a better ski. It can be very much related to the way the ski wants to be skied as mentioned above. Almost any intermediate level skier can probably ski on any advanced ski and get down the mountain just fine provided sizing is reasonable. But enjoyment can easily be reduced if you're trying to ski in a way the ski was not designed for.

Those K2 kunfujas actually sound like quite a good fit for you. You're a fairly tall guy so 189 would not be bad, I think and the 177 was actually probably a bit short. This ski fits in my description, its got a medium turning radius a good sized waist and its not overwhelmingly stiff (but it is torsionally rigid which are two very different qualities). I would say mount them wherever the recommended line is and you should be good to go! Hope you have a sick season :)
 
13857794:aNIGma said:
I would strongly urge you to consider what type of skiing you want to be doing/enjoy most much more than the skier "ability" when picking the ski that's right for you. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that not being interested in park or moguls, but wanting to ski powder and groomers you're looking for a good ski but with a more casual ski style. The B2's and the Ac50 both don't seem like skis that fit that description to me. While they are excellent skis no doubt they are the type of ski that you're going to be charging down the mountain with every lap. If you ski with friends most of the time, definitely not the ski for you, since skiing anything less than mach2 in these will probably feel incredibly boring. On the flip side when you do use the skis for what they are designed for, it is likely to be physically exhausting which after half a day of skiing stops being fun.

My suggestion to you would be regardless of the skier rating associated with a ski, find a ski that is definitely wider 90-105mm maybe more depending how much you ski powder, a bit less stiff, and a medium turning radius. This should in general be a much more enjoyable ski. As for the associated skier ability, higher doesn't = a better ski. It can be very much related to the way the ski wants to be skied as mentioned above. Almost any intermediate level skier can probably ski on any advanced ski and get down the mountain just fine provided sizing is reasonable. But enjoyment can easily be reduced if you're trying to ski in a way the ski was not designed for.

Those K2 kunfujas actually sound like quite a good fit for you. You're a fairly tall guy so 189 would not be bad, I think and the 177 was actually probably a bit short. This ski fits in my description, its got a medium turning radius a good sized waist and its not overwhelmingly stiff (but it is torsionally rigid which are two very different qualities). I would say mount them wherever the recommended line is and you should be good to go! Hope you have a sick season :)
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unfortunately they sold. Ill go around to rental shops and see if i can buy some past demos. Found some Mantras from a rental shop that might work. I think they are like 183s and from ~5 years ago

**This post was edited on Nov 20th 2017 at 1:47:27am
 
13857902:dang8701 said:
unfortunately they sold. Ill go around to rental shops and see if i can buy some past demos. Found some Mantras from a rental shop that might work. I think they are like 183s and from ~5 years ago

**This post was edited on Nov 20th 2017 at 1:47:27am
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Sounds like a good pick to me, I think you'll enjoy those. Also probably the perfect length for you
 
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