Camcorders with the 3ccd/ grainy look

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olofhalvarsson

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Basically asking for tips regarding camcorders. I am planning on creating longer parts but still want that old 3ccd look (vx1000, hvx etc.). I wanna be able to pass it to friends to film so having it be a little easier to film is an upside. Reliable zoom is also a pretty big priority. I have been looking at a few cameras but the ones that seem to make the most sense is the hvx200 or the hmc150. Anyone got any tips?
 
you should get the hpx170, lighter than the hvx and doesn't have the tape/card system. the colors are better than the hmc too, best cam imo
 
14536890:sindreplassen said:
you should get the hpx170, lighter than the hvx and doesn't have the tape/card system. the colors are better than the hmc too, best cam imo
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How hard is it to use p2 cards? Ive just heard theyre expensive and thats why the hmc was interesting cuz of the SDs

**This post was edited on May 16th 2023 at 6:56:06am
 
14536891:olofhalvarsson said:
How hard is it to use p2 cards? Ive just heard theyre expensive and thats why the hmc was interesting cuz of the SDs

**This post was edited on May 16th 2023 at 6:56:06am
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its honestly the same as using a sd card, just find one with the card included, 64 gb is nice. buy this cable from amazon if you end up buying it: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NH13S44/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B00NH13S44&linkCode=as2&tag=jacobtheopowe-21&linkId=387a7dd21fc412ff6473717b4c4df45f

its easy to import if you use finalcut, don't know if other softwares support p2 still
 
14536894:sindreplassen said:
its honestly the same as using a sd card, just find one with the card included, 64 gb is nice. buy this cable from amazon if you end up buying it: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NH13S44/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B00NH13S44&linkCode=as2&tag=jacobtheopowe-21&linkId=387a7dd21fc412ff6473717b4c4df45f

its easy to import if you use finalcut, don't know if other softwares support p2 still
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Aight sick thank you, you think it would do okay on longer zoom shots? Like bigger backcountry lines?
 
14536893:olofhalvarsson said:
Also anyone have thoughts on the af100 or the fs100/700?
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none of these cameras will look anything like an hvx. The af and fs cameras are mirrorless cameras, not 3ccd.
 
Thats what i figured aswell, just wanted an alternative if the 3ccd cams wouldnt do amazing in the backcountry shots but the hpx might be good enough
 
Never filmed with an hpx but it seems to produce higher quality videos than the hvx, which would have a slightly older look if that's what you're going for. The hvx is quite a heavy cam, whereas the hpx doesn't have an obsolete tape deck. From what I can tell, hvxs go for cheaper than hpxs and hmcs, but p2 cards are hella expensive. 64gb cards seem to be going for about $200 USD these days.

You mentioned the vx1000 which looks way different to the other cameras mentioned. If you want a reliable camera that films SD, I'd definitely recommend the dvx. Way cheaper than the other options too.
 
14536993:Christian_Bale said:
Never filmed with an hpx but it seems to produce higher quality videos than the hvx, which would have a slightly older look if that's what you're going for. The hvx is quite a heavy cam, whereas the hpx doesn't have an obsolete tape deck. From what I can tell, hvxs go for cheaper than hpxs and hmcs, but p2 cards are hella expensive. 64gb cards seem to be going for about $200 USD these days.

You mentioned the vx1000 which looks way different to the other cameras mentioned. If you want a reliable camera that films SD, I'd definitely recommend the dvx. Way cheaper than the other options too.
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Which dvx? I thought it shot tape aswell

i think the hpx might be a good fit if i can find one witha p2 card cuz theres also some good telelenses for backcountry shots
 
14536996:olofhalvarsson said:
Which dvx? I thought it shot tape aswell

i think the hpx might be a good fit if i can find one witha p2 card cuz theres also some good telelenses for backcountry shots
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panasonic dvx100b. It records on tape but it's a relatively light camera and easy to pass around. I think the hpx would be a good option if you can get a decent deal on a p2 card. I've noticed that people tend to sell p2 cards separately online for more money, but sometimes you can find a listing on FB marketplace where someone's selling the cam with cards included. I would say that hpxs are in higher demand compared to hvxs. It seems like a lot more skaters are filming with hpxs, and more skiers too, especially since zootspace dropped.
 
14537010:Christian_Bale said:
panasonic dvx100b. It records on tape but it's a relatively light camera and easy to pass around. I think the hpx would be a good option if you can get a decent deal on a p2 card. I've noticed that people tend to sell p2 cards separately online for more money, but sometimes you can find a listing on FB marketplace where someone's selling the cam with cards included. I would say that hpxs are in higher demand compared to hvxs. It seems like a lot more skaters are filming with hpxs, and more skiers too, especially since zootspace dropped.
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Aight sick ill look into that one, yeah i think if theres a good enough deal on a hpx that might be worth it
 
I use two canon xha1's in the backcountry. they light and kinda strong but they your gonna hafta deal with tapes. The auto mode is nice for passing it to your friends, that's what I do. The zoom is great aswell.
 
14537100:OreoMuncher said:
I use two canon xha1's in the backcountry. they light and kinda strong but they your gonna hafta deal with tapes. The auto mode is nice for passing it to your friends, that's what I do. The zoom is great aswell.
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how well does the xha1 do with slo mo? Thats the only thing w the hpx and hvx is that they have really good variable frame rates but the xha1 looks better if its possible to smoothly slow down footage
 
14537142:olofhalvarsson said:
how well does the xha1 do with slo mo? Thats the only thing w the hpx and hvx is that they have really good variable frame rates but the xha1 looks better if its possible to smoothly slow down footage
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I dont really use slomo so I cant really say. I would assume that both the HPX and HVX are better.
 
14536977:olofhalvarsson said:
Thats what i figured aswell, just wanted an alternative if the 3ccd cams wouldnt do amazing in the backcountry shots but the hpx might be good enough
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P sure the first couple carnage movies are shot on hvx200. And those are some of the best backcountry vids in the past 5 years imo. They definitely are great for backcountry shots and a breath of fresh air compared to all the RED 8k 120fps tgr stuff
 
Hmc-40 is another nice option. Smaller and very user friendly. Shoots sd too. Downside is the zoom might not hold up for big backcountry lines
 
14537550:NoahsArk said:
P sure the first couple carnage movies are shot on hvx200. And those are some of the best backcountry vids in the past 5 years imo. They definitely are great for backcountry shots and a breath of fresh air compared to all the RED 8k 120fps tgr stuff
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Oh thats sick yeah their stuff are sick visually. Yeah maybe the hpx or hvx is enough then for even backcountry stuff
 
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