Caitlyn Jenner
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plyswthsqrrls
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13440337:Lonely said:
THIS 200%
she is creating her own media attention, if she didn't want to be all over the fucking news she could have maybe, I don't know, not done a cover shoot for an internationally recognized magazine?
purplepants420
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13440118:nocturnal said:
Illuminati confirmed
.lencon
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13440553:S.J.W said:
Courage is not a competition, but he/she gave him/herself half the crap by getting on the cover of vanity fair.
Also, in some countries gay is not allowed, the marines and other people of our military defend rights and privelages such as being gay or adding boobs.
S.J.W
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13440589:Lonely said:
you sure as hell implied it. You most likely only know Noah Galloway because of this picture. Which is just made up shit to take away from the achievements of Caitlyn Jenner. Noah has received multiple publications for his work, including the cover of mens health. Like I said, stop comparing courage and bravery. It's not a competition. Ones person courage is another persons every day.
shred-sesh
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13440553:S.J.W said:
You know what I think I will. It is an award for courage is it not? Yes what she did took guts, but much off it is self created. "I'm brave for dealing with the hate...but I do photoshoots for magazines so I can continue to show everyone how great I am" what about the gay kid who comes out in front of his homophobic football team or family. That's pretty courageous. Difference is he doesn't get the photoshoot. Neither does the veteran who gets half of his body blown off, and comes back to continue to excel in athletics with a disability that he gained from fighting for his country. Bruce/Caitlyn was in the Olympics. Wow. Yay. You get a gold star. I think it is brave of her to come out, but just because you're a big name does not mean you're courageous.
Hell just wait and Kim kardashian will switch over and be courageous to.
Your points are like Swiss cheese
Full of holes
13440599:S.J.W said:you sure as hell implied it. You most likely only know Noah Galloway because of this picture. Which is just made up shit to take away from the achievements of Caitlyn Jenner. Noah has received multiple publications for his work, including the cover of mens health. Like I said, stop comparing courage and bravery. It's not a competition. Ones person courage is another persons every day.
So you're saying since marines put their lives on the line everyday and that's normal, it shouldn't be valued as much as Caitlyn Jenner.
Get out if your stupid little bubble and look at the world for a second. Maybe you'll realize some things.
S.J.W
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13440602:Lonely said:
well that's like your opinion dude, but seriously stop comparing who's more courageous. Everyone is going to have a reason as to why anyone should get an award.Caitlyn Jenner has started a conversation about transgender that no mainstream media has touched on so far. Much like how no one wanted to touch gay rights for a long time, now gays are slowly getting more and more rights and soon we'll look back and be like what the fuck, why didn't we do that earlier?
13440618:S.J.W said:
It's nice how you just respond with a statement and some sort of poorly worded insult instead of defending yourself, but whatever
Courage-the ability to knowingly do something that is difficult or dangerous.
So I guess maybe difficult is what she did...and then repeatedly self projected..idk
And I have to say it's funny how you are so self righteous, when in reality you are just the liberal version of Frenchy.
But hey you not me
S.J.W
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13440630:Lonely said:
I hardly think I'm self righteous, where in this thread have I appeared to be self righteous? I'm not saying I'm better than you for accepting Caitlyn, I haven't said your opinion is wrong. What I'm saying is that we need to stop comparing who's more courageous. It's not a competition.
And in no way did I say marine shouldn't be valued. Notice how I didn't say "ones person courage is a marines everyday". It was a blanket statement to reinforce that courage shouldn't be a competition. If it came straight after the marines sentence, then yeah I could see how you could misinterpret it, but it doesn't. So there's no excuse for you misinterpreting it, unless you admit that you just picked out the statement and changed it to fit your "argument"
ShredAZ
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Just a solid FYI, Bruce doesn't identify with the homosexual community. He legitimately believes he is. Woman.
If that isn't dellusional, I don't know what is.
http://www.businessinsider.com/bruce-jenner-im-not-gay-im-heterosexual-2015-4
If that isn't dellusional, I don't know what is.
http://www.businessinsider.com/bruce-jenner-im-not-gay-im-heterosexual-2015-4
13440713:pow_pow~ said:
If we're trying to be controversial...
Why do we call everyone in the military heroes, and why do we always connect them to fighting for our freedoms when the vast majority of our escapades have nothing to do with protecting out freedoms.
Sure, going into battle takes a lot of courage, but that doesn't mean it isn't misguided. Just seeing the "well the military this" comparison to go against pretty much everything these days. People are sharing this while ________ got shot in Iraq. People are posting pictures of cats when ________ got hit by a bomb in Afghanistan.
Just kind of tired of it.
13440723:theabortionator said:
it can certainly be misguided, but that would be more political than the grunts on the ground. theres always going to be misery and conflict somewhere in the world so there will always be frivolous news compared to it, but in this case, they are directly saying that what Bruce Jenner has done is more courageous than what that soldier did, and its ridiculous.
13440740:pow_pow~ said:
Well in one area you have the backing of being a hero, especially if anything bad happens. In the other you have a shistorm that's going to be unleashed on you as seen here.
If I went to war and got shot, I'm a hero(at least in everyones eyes). If I told people that I was a woman, people would stop talking to me and people would probably say all kinds of fucked up and aggressive things towards me. Sure there is more support out there, but it's still a little understood and not very accepted.
Hell some people go into war just because they want to be a hero, and want that respect.
Nobody comes out and says they're really a woman just because they like of everyone hating them.
scratchproteen
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lolololol you're born with a cock and balls you are a fucking dude. You were born with a Y chromosome.
It's all a brilliant way to make money.
It's all a brilliant way to make money.
13440713:pow_pow~ said:
13440765:scratchproteen said:
This is exactly the point. Brave to come out? Yes. Making lots of money from it? Yes. That's what I don't like about it, the fact that the courage has some sort of economical motivation behind it, even a small one.
BigTownKid
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i'd fuck her in the pussy so hard that her asshole would pop out
13440754:theabortionator said:
Yes, but when you go to fight, you're not going hoping to get half your body blown off by a ied. The marine knows the risk but has no control if something happens.
She knew exactly what she was doing, knew the consequences, and did it bravely and is now bravely making millions from it.
SalmonellaFun
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It seems to me that it comes down to this: Bruce Jenner was born as a male with an X and a Y on his 23rd chromosome. On his birth certificate it has him classified as male because that is what he is. You can add all the plastic and chop off whatever you want from his body but he will still be a male, just with a weird body. I think the fact that he says he identifies as a female is either A) an attempt to get attention, create arguments and basically make headlines around the world for a while, along with shit tons of money or B) he has something not quite right in the head and really needs some help. Like someone said earlier, if he identified as a 4 year old boy, people would say something's wrong. I think there is no difference with saying you identify as the opposite gender
SalmonellaFun
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13440775:BigTownKid said:
Him*
cobra_commander
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13440723:theabortionator said:
I don't agree with the first part of your post, but dead on accurate on the second half.
I'm fucking tired of it too. Bunch of combat veterans go out and get their fucking feelings hurt on social media when...
Most of the fuckers that shared the shit about CJ and whatever award it was had never heard of the whatever award it was before that photo came across their FB feed. And now they are offended.
13440926:cobra_commander said:
This. I hate that shit. When there's something that people didn't even know about but suddenly because somebody shares a facebook meme in their news feed it's as if they've cared deeply about whatever cause for 100+ years.
987321654hgfd
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13440989:theabortionator said:
Getting rid of facebook is well worth it. There's so much trash on their it's ridiculous.
ABalls
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13440484:.lencon said:
Lol I immediately thought of clip on tits.
But no I completely have changed my mind on the situation since I too am experiencing the same thing. You see, I've been living as a human male but I was meant to be a Subaru. My great uncle was a transautomobile so it's clearly genetic. I may have male parts but inside I know I have a five star safety rating and a killer resale value.
death_grips
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at one point in time people would of looked at skiers and been like
"wtf are those people doing that is silly and unnatural they should be walking like everyone else"
but those skiers woulda been like
"nah brah this shit's rad let me do what i'm doin"
then those people looking at the skiers woulda been like
"actually this shit is kinda cool and doesn't effect me so i'm gonna chirp the fuck out"
and everyone lived happily ever after and minded their own business
"wtf are those people doing that is silly and unnatural they should be walking like everyone else"
but those skiers woulda been like
"nah brah this shit's rad let me do what i'm doin"
then those people looking at the skiers woulda been like
"actually this shit is kinda cool and doesn't effect me so i'm gonna chirp the fuck out"
and everyone lived happily ever after and minded their own business
S.J.W
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13441041:-emile- said:
What's so bad about adding representation for people who don't fall into certain categories? Yes, it gets confusing when one day it's LGBT, then it's LGBTA, then it's LGBTAQ, then it's LGBTAQP, but each letter represents a certain aspect of the community which each feel the need to be represented.
Take Pansexual for example (the sexual attraction to any gender identity) in the past you could dismiss it as being Bi-sexual, but there are bisexuals who wouldn't be attracted to trans and those who would, so the community created the pansexual category.
13440432:pow_pow~ said:
There's a difference between physical gender and gender identification. Look it up.
There are plenty of gays who don't come out of the closet for years and years and years... does that make them not gay for the previous however-long just because they didn't go public? I mean, It's been pretty obvious that Jenner has been heading down this path for a long time, anyway... hence the Family Guy clip - which even 6 years ago was old-hat. Jenner has been doing this longer than Michael Jackson was turning white. Who cares if he's 65 and finally feels comfortable coming out now...
2015 is a lot more tolerable about this sort of thing than 1985, 1995, or even 2005... so I don't blame him for waiting until now, whatsoever. We're finally getting to a point in our culture where queer tolerance is becoming mainstream enough where it's not considered weird or gross or confusing anymore. That's why this is such a big deal - because Jenner is a relatively household name who's gone down this path, and it's another step in the right direction for general acceptance of transexuals in society.
As for the Ashe award.. honestly, who cares if it went to Jenner over the Galloway dude or whoever else probably deserved it... Truth be told, they all deserved it... Hell, in that light, Stephen Hawking probably deserves it every year until the day he dies, because that dude can formulate space-time quantum equations in his friggin head better than we can remember what we need from the grocery store, all while having been confined to a wheelchair for half a century and having to speak using a 1984 Macintosh computer voice.
Instead of causing a fuss over the Bruce Jenner thing... we should be making a fuss over that nimrod Huckabee who has a creepy interest in spying on underaged children...
13440634:skiforce1 said:
Again. Physical modification does not have anything to do with gender identification. Gain some perspective.
corona
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13441117:-emile- said:
No. He's a Homo sapiens. In the same phylum as lizards but that's as close as it gets.
Same goes for Jenner. He has XY chromosomes. Nothing can change that. XY = male. XX = female. He is a male and that cannot change no matter how many bodily mutilations you do.