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13546277:Bogs said:
suffer abuse and are denied things like employment, housing, etc. because of something about themselves they can't help?
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sorry what? something they can't help? were they forced to cross-dress and get a genital mutilation surgery? last time i checked, those things are choices. being trans is absolutely nothing like being gay. that is something you're born with, something you can't help. that is not a choice. i wouldn't deny a job to a black guy, but i would certainly deny a job to a white guy masquerading as a black guy because thats fucking racist and he is disrespecting and trivializing what it means to be black and what it means to be white. you want to make a life choice, you have to live with the consequences of that choice. that's why it's called a choice.
 
13546450:Blindsurfer said:
sorry what? something they can't help? were they forced to cross-dress and get a genital mutilation surgery? last time i checked, those things are choices. being trans is absolutely nothing like being gay. that is something you're born with, something you can't help. that is not a choice. i wouldn't deny a job to a black guy, but i would certainly deny a job to a white guy masquerading as a black guy because thats fucking racist and he is disrespecting and trivializing what it means to be black and what it means to be white. you want to make a life choice, you have to live with the consequences of that choice. that's why it's called a choice.
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It's the same as being gay people can't help the feeling they don't belong in their own body.
 
13546450:Blindsurfer said:
sorry what? something they can't help? were they forced to cross-dress and get a genital mutilation surgery? last time i checked, those things are choices. being trans is absolutely nothing like being gay. that is something you're born with, something you can't help. that is not a choice. i wouldn't deny a job to a black guy, but i would certainly deny a job to a white guy masquerading as a black guy because thats fucking racist and he is disrespecting and trivializing what it means to be black and what it means to be white. you want to make a life choice, you have to live with the consequences of that choice. that's why it's called a choice.
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Clearly you just don't really understand how being transgender works. I'd highly recommend you try to learn a little bit more before saying stuff like this and embarrassing yourself with how obviously you just don't know what you're talking about.
 
13546470:Bogs said:
Clearly you just don't really understand how being transgender works. I'd highly recommend you try to learn a little bit more before saying stuff like this and embarrassing yourself with how obviously you just don't know what you're talking about.
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i understand that it's not a real thing and that's all i need to understand
 
13546477:Blindsurfer said:
i understand that it's not a real thing and that's all i need to understand
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I'm sorry you feel that way. It's a very, very narrow-minded way of approaching life.
 
13546482:Bogs said:
I'm sorry you feel that way. It's a very, very narrow-minded way of approaching life.
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ya man, i'm so sad about all the trans people that aren't going to like me because i understand that they're no more real than flurries
 
13546497:Blindsurfer said:
ya man, i'm so sad about all the trans people that aren't going to like me because i understand that they're no more real than flurries
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I was more addressing your attitude of assuming that whatever you know about a topic is all anyone needs to know. Or at least that's what it seems like.
 
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