Bush Sucks
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waterville_NH
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How the hell can anyone have any bit of respect for george fucking shrub? The guy goes into afganastan wastes a shitload of money, realizes nothing is working and to cover that up...leaves the whole country in a state of anarchy...so goes and invades iraq, when he first did that it was in may, now its september and we still havent fount any 'weapons of mass destruction'...but still, 'they are there'...
oh, then he says the war is over, and how come we keep hearing on the news about soldiers still in combat getting ambushed?
So now he deciedes to cut taxes, this idea sounds awsome to all the dumbshits in our country, and bush knows it too, but to anyone with half a brain, they know that this makes the poor get poorer and the rich get richer...now we dont have enough funding for schools, homeless shelters, etc...but all george bush cares about is making money...isnt that how the whole fucking country works...all anyone cares about is making money
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oh, then he says the war is over, and how come we keep hearing on the news about soldiers still in combat getting ambushed?
So now he deciedes to cut taxes, this idea sounds awsome to all the dumbshits in our country, and bush knows it too, but to anyone with half a brain, they know that this makes the poor get poorer and the rich get richer...now we dont have enough funding for schools, homeless shelters, etc...but all george bush cares about is making money...isnt that how the whole fucking country works...all anyone cares about is making money
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Do you people really think Bush is doing everything by himself? There is a whole congress and senate behind. Bush has hundreds of advisors. Its not like Bush one day says Saddam pisses me off lets shoot his ass.
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'He sits on top of 10 percent of the world's oil reserves. He has enormous wealth being generated by that. And left to his own devices, it's the judgement of many of us that in the not too distant future he will acquire nuclear weapons'.
-Dick Chaney explains why we went to war with iraq....'for he is an honorable man'
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-Dick Chaney explains why we went to war with iraq....'for he is an honorable man'
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Mykel
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ec andrew...you met me at camp? I didn't meet you...
besides if you think that a presidents effect on an ecopnomy are goin to be seen only three years after taking office...then you are dead wrong....I t takes something very serious to generate such immediate results. 9/11 coupled with the horrendous handling of the economic situation by the clinton administration is the reason for our slump in the economy.
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besides if you think that a presidents effect on an ecopnomy are goin to be seen only three years after taking office...then you are dead wrong....I t takes something very serious to generate such immediate results. 9/11 coupled with the horrendous handling of the economic situation by the clinton administration is the reason for our slump in the economy.
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i idiots who think for themselves
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BooKitty911
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Dirty little hippies.
Things Bush has done:
Lowered Taxes (I’ve had two tax cuts thanks to Bush!)
Liberated Iraq from a leader who fed his people feet-first into woodchippers.
Liberated Afganistan from an oppressive regime.
(Note: both the Iraqi and Afganistan governments sponsored terroism.)
Under Bush’s “Leave No Child Behind Act” federal funding from eduction has increased 60% since Clinton was running the show.
Bush’s health care plan calls for prescription drug coverage for seniors – the Democrats are fighting it.
Dedicated 1.2 billion to a hydrogen fuel initiative to replace gas – that means: NO OIL and NO POLLUTION
Bush’s Clear Skies act is the most aggressive of any president. Power plants must cut 70% of their emissions.
Bush has dedicated 130% more than Clinton toward the cleanup of contaminated and abandoned industrial sites.
Bush enacted new diesel emissions standards which will result in cleaner air and less cancer causing emissions.
Global warming: Bush has pledged to reduce the greenhouse gas intensity by 18% over the next few years. He’s also allocated more funds to researching the warming trend than Clinton did.
Bush has allocated more money to the Environmental Protection Agency than any other president. Ever.
Bush allocated more money to African relief than any other president.
In response to the person who said Bush allowed a terrorist attack to happen, check out what Clinton allowed to happen:
Terrorist attack on Kenyan Embassy
Terrorist attack on Nigerian Embassy
Terrorist attack on USS Cole in Yemen gulf
First Terrorist attack on World Trade Center
Terrorist attack on Alfred E. Murrow Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Clinton did NOTHING in response. Yeah…he was great.
Things Bush has done:
Lowered Taxes (I’ve had two tax cuts thanks to Bush!)
Liberated Iraq from a leader who fed his people feet-first into woodchippers.
Liberated Afganistan from an oppressive regime.
(Note: both the Iraqi and Afganistan governments sponsored terroism.)
Under Bush’s “Leave No Child Behind Act” federal funding from eduction has increased 60% since Clinton was running the show.
Bush’s health care plan calls for prescription drug coverage for seniors – the Democrats are fighting it.
Dedicated 1.2 billion to a hydrogen fuel initiative to replace gas – that means: NO OIL and NO POLLUTION
Bush’s Clear Skies act is the most aggressive of any president. Power plants must cut 70% of their emissions.
Bush has dedicated 130% more than Clinton toward the cleanup of contaminated and abandoned industrial sites.
Bush enacted new diesel emissions standards which will result in cleaner air and less cancer causing emissions.
Global warming: Bush has pledged to reduce the greenhouse gas intensity by 18% over the next few years. He’s also allocated more funds to researching the warming trend than Clinton did.
Bush has allocated more money to the Environmental Protection Agency than any other president. Ever.
Bush allocated more money to African relief than any other president.
In response to the person who said Bush allowed a terrorist attack to happen, check out what Clinton allowed to happen:
Terrorist attack on Kenyan Embassy
Terrorist attack on Nigerian Embassy
Terrorist attack on USS Cole in Yemen gulf
First Terrorist attack on World Trade Center
Terrorist attack on Alfred E. Murrow Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Clinton did NOTHING in response. Yeah…he was great.
buck490
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OH YEA Bush is terrible, I mean I wish Gore was pres. so we could all be dead right now.
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RideBLUNT
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Seriously guys, Our Country sucks. Tax cuts are being created at the wrong time, we're already fucking ourselves over for the next 50 years and probably more at this rate. Clinton finally paid off all our debts to the world from World War II, and managed to improve the economy. When I say Clinton did that, I mean his administration.
Bush and his administration arepretty damn bad. OK, since you lived in Iraq and saw his people getting killed and gassed and whatever lies your government tells you. That's total bull shit. i don't believe a damn word that our government has to say. They say they're heplin out those countries, just like Bush's dad said. But he killed 130,000 IRAQ CITIZENS, when i say citizens, I don't include men, I'm talking about women and children, so don't claim it was self-defense.
If the people of Iraq or Afghanistan wanted help, then the UN would see fit to help them. What's the point of the UN anymore if we, the US, don't even listen to them?? We have Colin Powell marching in there not asking for permission, or debating, or negotiating, but TELLING the UN what we are going to do, cuz 'We Know what's right,' not the rest of the world? NO YOU IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES.
We need to fix things up in our own country before we start invading others.
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Bush and his administration arepretty damn bad. OK, since you lived in Iraq and saw his people getting killed and gassed and whatever lies your government tells you. That's total bull shit. i don't believe a damn word that our government has to say. They say they're heplin out those countries, just like Bush's dad said. But he killed 130,000 IRAQ CITIZENS, when i say citizens, I don't include men, I'm talking about women and children, so don't claim it was self-defense.
If the people of Iraq or Afghanistan wanted help, then the UN would see fit to help them. What's the point of the UN anymore if we, the US, don't even listen to them?? We have Colin Powell marching in there not asking for permission, or debating, or negotiating, but TELLING the UN what we are going to do, cuz 'We Know what's right,' not the rest of the world? NO YOU IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES.
We need to fix things up in our own country before we start invading others.
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that is an irrelevent factor. saddam has killed an average of 177 iraqi civillians a DAY. lets look at this. saddam has been in iraq for about 20 years. thats 1,292,100 deaths under saddam. we are freeing these people. also tax cuts do not make the rich richer and the poor poorer. the reason the rich get more money is because they pay more of the taxes. the reason the poor gets less money is because they pay less taxes.
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^ haha, one of us on NS should run for president. at least we'd be assured 20,000 votes (there can't be more than 3 to 5 thousand that live outside the country)!
And right now Bush has created a sort of monopoly and so people are going to vote anti-bush, but the electorial college will make him president again (just like last time). It is true that he has a lot of people under his command/commanding him and in my personal oppinion they should all quit and go kill themselves! hehe
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And right now Bush has created a sort of monopoly and so people are going to vote anti-bush, but the electorial college will make him president again (just like last time). It is true that he has a lot of people under his command/commanding him and in my personal oppinion they should all quit and go kill themselves! hehe
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BooKitty911
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BoardomGuitar why do you live here? Seriously. If we’re that terrible why do you live in this country?
When you get to college and take a macroeconomics class you’ll learn that trickle-down economics works. Cutting taxes DOES improve the economy. And by the way Greenspan was chairman of the fed for both Bush and Clinton – why the big change in the economy then? Because the economy is cyclical. It has its peaks and valley. The economy started dipping long before Bush took office. It really has nothing to do with him or his economic policy.
I didn’t see those people get killed, but turn on your local liberal cable news channel and they’ll show you pictures of mass graves. The UN has published reports on the atrocities Saddam has committed. So it’s not just the US government that has validated these claims.
The UN issued warnings to Saddam 14 TIMES. About crimes against humanity and weapons of mass destruction. Saddam blew off the UN 14 TIMES. If a murderer is released from prison and put on parole are you going to let him break parole 14 TIMES before you do something about it? The UN is a powerless organization that has outlived its usefulness and Saddam knew it – that’s why he didn’t give a rat’s-ass when they issued him an order.
And yes BoardomGuitar, we know what’s right for our country and our citizens – not the UN, not France, not anyone else.
Please watch something other than MTV. You’re killing me.
When you get to college and take a macroeconomics class you’ll learn that trickle-down economics works. Cutting taxes DOES improve the economy. And by the way Greenspan was chairman of the fed for both Bush and Clinton – why the big change in the economy then? Because the economy is cyclical. It has its peaks and valley. The economy started dipping long before Bush took office. It really has nothing to do with him or his economic policy.
I didn’t see those people get killed, but turn on your local liberal cable news channel and they’ll show you pictures of mass graves. The UN has published reports on the atrocities Saddam has committed. So it’s not just the US government that has validated these claims.
The UN issued warnings to Saddam 14 TIMES. About crimes against humanity and weapons of mass destruction. Saddam blew off the UN 14 TIMES. If a murderer is released from prison and put on parole are you going to let him break parole 14 TIMES before you do something about it? The UN is a powerless organization that has outlived its usefulness and Saddam knew it – that’s why he didn’t give a rat’s-ass when they issued him an order.
And yes BoardomGuitar, we know what’s right for our country and our citizens – not the UN, not France, not anyone else.
Please watch something other than MTV. You’re killing me.
RideBLUNT
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Bookitty, since u know about economics, and it seems you have a simple sense of it, maybe you've heard of INTOPIA? If not, I doubt you attended a good university, that is, if you are that old. I've taken university courses for free, since I was in 8th grade, at Indiana University. My grandfather got the top business teacher award all 35 years he was there, every single year. I know about business, I helped a little bit to test the top economic/business simulation program on the university market. It is currently on over 220 university campuses in over 30 countries, not to mention all the other business institutions have bought it.
I know business and I know economics. macroeconomics of a country or microeconomics of a small little family shop. Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them.
Tell me, how did the Tax refund help our economy? How did his tax cuts help? Please, enlighten me...
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I know business and I know economics. macroeconomics of a country or microeconomics of a small little family shop. Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them.
Tell me, how did the Tax refund help our economy? How did his tax cuts help? Please, enlighten me...
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Therefore your grandpa is academically inclined, which makes you smart too? Your a fucking ass clown. University classes since you were in 8th grade? None the less Indiana University? I can reassure you most of my highschool classes were more academically challenging than many, not all, of courses offered there assuming they are of similar topics. Dude, anyone can attend a University class when they are in 8th grade. The question is what did you get out of it? I undoubtedly know that you did not reap credit for your so called University classes. You need to stop swaggering over your grandpa's attainments. You can't make a point by commensurating towards someone elses accomplishments.
So you think you know Economics? Do you think because you can discern between macro and micro economics that you are Captain Nash and Bush's un eminent opponent? I doubt you have it figured out to any extent whatsoever. INTOPIA?...I'll pretend you never said that.
'Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them. '
You show us proof of this and I will consider your brass tacks. If you had any clue of how the economy works then you will realize how erroneous your statements are. I can tell that you honestly don't like Bush, or at least approve of what he and his advisors have done. Instead of not liking Bush and subsequently drawing conclusions of the economy with that bias in hand, you should perhaps look at what is being done without this bias. If you do that then you will realize that the economy, overall, truely is coming back to the surface. Sure we had a recession...we had serious decline in some divisions, but nothing internecine and now we are coming back. If you were not a total dumbass then you would know that Tax refunds did help our economy and so did surgically placed tax cuts. Go play with grandpa and maybe he can help you out.
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So you think you know Economics? Do you think because you can discern between macro and micro economics that you are Captain Nash and Bush's un eminent opponent? I doubt you have it figured out to any extent whatsoever. INTOPIA?...I'll pretend you never said that.
'Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them. '
You show us proof of this and I will consider your brass tacks. If you had any clue of how the economy works then you will realize how erroneous your statements are. I can tell that you honestly don't like Bush, or at least approve of what he and his advisors have done. Instead of not liking Bush and subsequently drawing conclusions of the economy with that bias in hand, you should perhaps look at what is being done without this bias. If you do that then you will realize that the economy, overall, truely is coming back to the surface. Sure we had a recession...we had serious decline in some divisions, but nothing internecine and now we are coming back. If you were not a total dumbass then you would know that Tax refunds did help our economy and so did surgically placed tax cuts. Go play with grandpa and maybe he can help you out.
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BooKitty911
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Well that’s just super-duper for your grandpa BoardomGuitar!!!! Sorry, but your grandpa’s achievements don’t make you any less of a moron.
Let me try and make this really, really simple for you:
Tax refunds mean that you and I have more money in our pocket right? If I have more money in my pocket I’m going to go buy something – this not only provides a profit to all kinds of people (the store, the manufacturer, suppliers to the manufacturer) but also creates DEMAND. (Did grandpa ever teach you about Adam Smith or do I have to explain that too?) Since there is now DEMAND, the manufacturer has to create MORE product and needs to EMPLOY people to create that product.
The other way it stimulates the economy is through investment. So my parents get back a couple thousand bucks from the government. What will they do with that money? INVEST it. Since stock prices are low, they buy a bunch of stock which again, creates DEMAND and pushes the stock price up. When stock prices go up, companies are very, very happy. They have more money! This is a GOOD thing! That means that they can create more products, expand to new markets and EMPLOY more people!
Multiply these two scenarios by about 100 million people and you have a whole lot of money being pumped into the economy. Again, this is a GOOD thing!
Now what absolutely perplexes me, is that you seem to think people getting to keep more of the money they work hard for is a BAD thing. Please explain how lowering taxes is BAD thing.
Let me try and make this really, really simple for you:
Tax refunds mean that you and I have more money in our pocket right? If I have more money in my pocket I’m going to go buy something – this not only provides a profit to all kinds of people (the store, the manufacturer, suppliers to the manufacturer) but also creates DEMAND. (Did grandpa ever teach you about Adam Smith or do I have to explain that too?) Since there is now DEMAND, the manufacturer has to create MORE product and needs to EMPLOY people to create that product.
The other way it stimulates the economy is through investment. So my parents get back a couple thousand bucks from the government. What will they do with that money? INVEST it. Since stock prices are low, they buy a bunch of stock which again, creates DEMAND and pushes the stock price up. When stock prices go up, companies are very, very happy. They have more money! This is a GOOD thing! That means that they can create more products, expand to new markets and EMPLOY more people!
Multiply these two scenarios by about 100 million people and you have a whole lot of money being pumped into the economy. Again, this is a GOOD thing!
Now what absolutely perplexes me, is that you seem to think people getting to keep more of the money they work hard for is a BAD thing. Please explain how lowering taxes is BAD thing.
the-east-isnt-that-bad
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Boardom is right about, well, everything...
Tax cuts do not help the economy, they only help the exceptionally wealthy get wealthier. And unless you lived in Iraq or Iserael or where ever don't fucking talk about the pain and suffering they went through! That really pisses me off because people don't think about how Cuba has one of the best medical systems in the world, but we have been trying to 'liberate' them for at least 40 years! Nobody thinks about how THE US PUT SADDAM HUSSEIN INTO POWER AND HOW HE WAS A CIA AGENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS! nobody realizes that although our government/military do not torture our enemies here, they do torture them at their home! Nobody takes the time to research anything at all, let alone how the US attempted to exterminate the curds long before Saddam! So unless you were fucking there and you were 'fed into a woodchipper feet-first' don't fucking say shit about it! You're the reason why all this shit happens! Your actions encourage the government to continue to gain popularity which in turn gains the medias attention and in no time at all we have tv series, movies, books, etc. about some girl who went to Iraq and sat in an iraqi prison for however long! So don't fucking speak unless you can back up your words and you honestly believe in what you are about to say!
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Tax cuts do not help the economy, they only help the exceptionally wealthy get wealthier. And unless you lived in Iraq or Iserael or where ever don't fucking talk about the pain and suffering they went through! That really pisses me off because people don't think about how Cuba has one of the best medical systems in the world, but we have been trying to 'liberate' them for at least 40 years! Nobody thinks about how THE US PUT SADDAM HUSSEIN INTO POWER AND HOW HE WAS A CIA AGENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS! nobody realizes that although our government/military do not torture our enemies here, they do torture them at their home! Nobody takes the time to research anything at all, let alone how the US attempted to exterminate the curds long before Saddam! So unless you were fucking there and you were 'fed into a woodchipper feet-first' don't fucking say shit about it! You're the reason why all this shit happens! Your actions encourage the government to continue to gain popularity which in turn gains the medias attention and in no time at all we have tv series, movies, books, etc. about some girl who went to Iraq and sat in an iraqi prison for however long! So don't fucking speak unless you can back up your words and you honestly believe in what you are about to say!
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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Sorry, I'm just sick of all this shit...
I honestly pity any and all of you who stand up for this stuff and believe the government!
And yes, Saddam wasn't in the CIA for years, I'm pretty sure it was about a year and a half but I was kinda distracted when I wrote that...
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I honestly pity any and all of you who stand up for this stuff and believe the government!
And yes, Saddam wasn't in the CIA for years, I'm pretty sure it was about a year and a half but I was kinda distracted when I wrote that...
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RideBLUNT
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Bookitty, the problem with your ideas about economy is that you are stating 'theories' not actual experiences in history. Ok, if it's a time of an economic low, and u get 300 bucks, or whatever Bush gave u, you're telling me that you're going to go out and spend it? Well I for one would not go out and buy a brand new iPod and CDs, I would put it in the bank cuz I would be scared, since it is an economic low, that I was going to lose my job, or need money sometime soon. I would only spend it if I had a secure job, which unfortunately most people don't right now.
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'Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them. '
You show us proof of this and I will consider your brass tacks.
George Bush Jr. owned/opperated (I forget if he owned it or was the CEO or both, I'll ask my teacher tomorow cause we were talking about it today
) an oil company and just to add this for the sake of humility, he stated that he did not understand why his oil company went under as soon as he left... This coming from the man who also said, 'Space is still a high priority for NASA!'
Sorry, bout the tripple post though, I'm talking to hot girl on the phone and I'm rather distracted and I keep hitting tab and enter
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'Bush's Administration just doesn't know how things work I guess, I mean the majority of his cabinet have VERY CLOSE connections with oil companies, many were top executives in them. '
You show us proof of this and I will consider your brass tacks.
George Bush Jr. owned/opperated (I forget if he owned it or was the CEO or both, I'll ask my teacher tomorow cause we were talking about it today
) an oil company and just to add this for the sake of humility, he stated that he did not understand why his oil company went under as soon as he left... This coming from the man who also said, 'Space is still a high priority for NASA!'Sorry, bout the tripple post though, I'm talking to hot girl on the phone and I'm rather distracted and I keep hitting tab and enter
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SUPILOT HERE IS YOUR PROOF:
'Tax returns for 2000 show that Cheney and his wife had $36,086,635 in reported income last year. Some $34 million of Cheney's income came from stock options and other perks received from Haliburton, the oil services firm where Cheney was CEO.' - so ur saying that that 34 mil has no effect on what he decides?
Here is a profile of some other top figures in the administration of George W. Bush:
* Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, a longtime friend of George W. Bush, holds 940,000 options in Tom Brown, a Denver-based oil company that he headed before his cabinet appointment. Evans' financial disclosure statement listed his options to be worth between $5 million and $25 million.
* Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill is another extremely wealthy former CEO with a leading role in the Bush administration. The former head of aluminum maker Alcoa initially balked at selling off his $100 million in company stock and stock options, claiming he saw no potential conflict of interest. However, in an action that could directly benefit Alcoa, the Treasury Department recently decided to allow the financially pressed Bonneville Power Administration, which supplies electricity to Alcoa smelters in the Pacific Northwest, to reduce its payments to the government for dams and other infrastructure.
* Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who was chief executive at the pharmaceutical company G.D. Searle and later headed General Signal Corp., has financial holdings in stocks and other investments that are worth between $50 million and $210 million, according to his financial disclosure statement. Nearly half his fortune is tied up in private investment partnerships, including venture capital funds that invest in health care, energy, the Internet and biotechnology.
* Colin Powell, Bush's secretary of state, was a former board member of America Online. His stock portfolio is worth between $18 million and $65 million. He has agreed to sell his stock in 31 companies, including holdings in General Dynamics and Brocade Communications Systems worth more than $1 million each. He is also divesting holdings in Cisco, JDS, Uniphase and EMC worth between $500,000 and $1 million. Powell's son, Michael, head of the Federal Communications Commission, voted to approve the merger between AOL and Time Warner.
* Mitch Daniels, Bush's director of the Office of Budget and Management, was a top executive at the pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly. He listed the value of his Lilly stock at between $5 million and $25 million.
* Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, served on the board of directors of Chevron Oil from 1991 to 1993. The company named an oil tanker after Rice.
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'Tax returns for 2000 show that Cheney and his wife had $36,086,635 in reported income last year. Some $34 million of Cheney's income came from stock options and other perks received from Haliburton, the oil services firm where Cheney was CEO.' - so ur saying that that 34 mil has no effect on what he decides?
Here is a profile of some other top figures in the administration of George W. Bush:
* Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, a longtime friend of George W. Bush, holds 940,000 options in Tom Brown, a Denver-based oil company that he headed before his cabinet appointment. Evans' financial disclosure statement listed his options to be worth between $5 million and $25 million.
* Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill is another extremely wealthy former CEO with a leading role in the Bush administration. The former head of aluminum maker Alcoa initially balked at selling off his $100 million in company stock and stock options, claiming he saw no potential conflict of interest. However, in an action that could directly benefit Alcoa, the Treasury Department recently decided to allow the financially pressed Bonneville Power Administration, which supplies electricity to Alcoa smelters in the Pacific Northwest, to reduce its payments to the government for dams and other infrastructure.
* Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who was chief executive at the pharmaceutical company G.D. Searle and later headed General Signal Corp., has financial holdings in stocks and other investments that are worth between $50 million and $210 million, according to his financial disclosure statement. Nearly half his fortune is tied up in private investment partnerships, including venture capital funds that invest in health care, energy, the Internet and biotechnology.
* Colin Powell, Bush's secretary of state, was a former board member of America Online. His stock portfolio is worth between $18 million and $65 million. He has agreed to sell his stock in 31 companies, including holdings in General Dynamics and Brocade Communications Systems worth more than $1 million each. He is also divesting holdings in Cisco, JDS, Uniphase and EMC worth between $500,000 and $1 million. Powell's son, Michael, head of the Federal Communications Commission, voted to approve the merger between AOL and Time Warner.
* Mitch Daniels, Bush's director of the Office of Budget and Management, was a top executive at the pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly. He listed the value of his Lilly stock at between $5 million and $25 million.
* Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, served on the board of directors of Chevron Oil from 1991 to 1993. The company named an oil tanker after Rice.
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what up now? those corporate connections have nothing to do with their decisions on what to do, right?
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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Wouldn't you 'suddenly and unexpectedly change your mind' for millions of dollars?
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RideBLUNT
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takes us right back to the corruption and intermingling or corporate america and the government. Plus he sure didn't win the popular vote.
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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He was elected by the electorial college!
Oh! Score!
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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By now this should all be common knowledge...
Oh wait! IT IS! but for those of you who are just learning (no-offense, it's awesome that somebody cares to know) you can find plenty of info on the internet, but if you want some hardcore evidence i have found more shit in legal documents and transpondences than I know what to do with. You can also watch the supreme court and keep an eye on the congress/senate transcripts, you'd be supprised how much things like this are brought up in court cases and for the general defense of some pretty important people.
To give you a starting point, try searching google for what you want to know. If you find a fact on a site that seems unbelievable try searching it and seeing if any other sites have it, it may not be correct so don't make assumptions!
some pretty shady sites like this:http://www.hegemoney.com/americainc.htm
Have plenty of real facts, just in the form of quotes. That means you can quote that person but you aren't them so don't try to 'bend' or 'translate' it.
Other sites such ashttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/28/opinion/polls/printable502464.shtml are backed by one of the worlds most dominant political news sources. The only problem with stuff like this is that the government basically controls the media through censorship and by giving the media something to report on that is interesting. So although you can believe what they say, I can almost garantee you that they aren't telling you the whole truth. (I know that site isn't exactly on topic, but for the sake of demonstration...)
Sites likehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/03/p/20_children.html are very to the point when it comes to facts, and they are going to tell you the whole story because doing so is to their advantage. You can pretty much trust any established site such as this one, take back the media, and even sites like president moron and to stupid to be president.
The whole point of telling you all this was 1) to let you know that knowledge on this subject is abundant, and 2)Show you that everybody has their own opinions. All opinions are based on facts and so you can always come to some conclusion based on what somebody else says, but finding the facts and creating your own opinion is always better! Please don't be the people that protest the protesters, that is what is wrong with this world...
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Oh wait! IT IS! but for those of you who are just learning (no-offense, it's awesome that somebody cares to know) you can find plenty of info on the internet, but if you want some hardcore evidence i have found more shit in legal documents and transpondences than I know what to do with. You can also watch the supreme court and keep an eye on the congress/senate transcripts, you'd be supprised how much things like this are brought up in court cases and for the general defense of some pretty important people.
To give you a starting point, try searching google for what you want to know. If you find a fact on a site that seems unbelievable try searching it and seeing if any other sites have it, it may not be correct so don't make assumptions!
some pretty shady sites like this:http://www.hegemoney.com/americainc.htm
Have plenty of real facts, just in the form of quotes. That means you can quote that person but you aren't them so don't try to 'bend' or 'translate' it.
Other sites such ashttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/28/opinion/polls/printable502464.shtml are backed by one of the worlds most dominant political news sources. The only problem with stuff like this is that the government basically controls the media through censorship and by giving the media something to report on that is interesting. So although you can believe what they say, I can almost garantee you that they aren't telling you the whole truth. (I know that site isn't exactly on topic, but for the sake of demonstration...)
Sites likehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/03/p/20_children.html are very to the point when it comes to facts, and they are going to tell you the whole story because doing so is to their advantage. You can pretty much trust any established site such as this one, take back the media, and even sites like president moron and to stupid to be president.
The whole point of telling you all this was 1) to let you know that knowledge on this subject is abundant, and 2)Show you that everybody has their own opinions. All opinions are based on facts and so you can always come to some conclusion based on what somebody else says, but finding the facts and creating your own opinion is always better! Please don't be the people that protest the protesters, that is what is wrong with this world...
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petek
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i agree bush is in no way a good president. Afghanistan would have happenned without bush, it was a NATO decision. One thing he did that was semi-good was the tax-cuts, however 500billion was too much. You have to find the right balance, for consumer spending(ie tax cuts), and taxation, (direct payment to the govt.), he went a bit too overboard.
'We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind, cause they dont dance, and if they dont dance they aint no friends of mine.
'We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind, cause they dont dance, and if they dont dance they aint no friends of mine.
Mykel
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who said he did? we should have left him in iraq as a dictator though since he had nothing to do with it...maybe he could've sold al-qaeda some WMDs that would've been awesome!!! maybe he could've gassed some more kurds...or maybe the capital of a neighboring country...oooh, ooooh, maybe he could've gotten himeslef a nuke and blew all of us to high hell!!! wouldn't that be cool!! even you canadians would...from the fallout and nuclear winter, neat-o
yeah saddam was a good man, wish he was still around
My future's so bright I gotta wear shades.
I miss my old signature.
yeah saddam was a good man, wish he was still around
My future's so bright I gotta wear shades.
I miss my old signature.
Mykel
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our predecessors are the reason he was in power to begin with, in which case the task of gettin rid of him falls on us. Remember Hitler? I what if we'd siezed the oppurtunity to iliminate before he destroyed europe?...but if some of you were back in the 40s right now you'd be protesting us goin to war with him...saying things like 'Hitler ain't that bad of a guy, he's just standin up for what he believes in.'
see where this is going?
My future's so bright I gotta wear shades.
I miss my old signature.
see where this is going?
My future's so bright I gotta wear shades.
I miss my old signature.
