Burton skiing?

yeah were not members being skiers who dont go on burton site but could u just like abberviate it for us ?
 
this will never happenas long as jake burton and his minions are alive, anon sport optics is the farthest skiing will go in the burton realm
 
Burton Sponsoring skiers? thats like saying Jesus loves satanists. If they actually decided to make Burton skis, and started sponsoring skiers I am damn sure that it would be the end of existance as I know it, now most people see the skier/snowboarder drama as a bad thing, but I think its funny and make fun of snowboarders a lot. imagine a world where it wasnt funny. Would you realy want to live in that world?
 
I ski with snowboarders. One thing I like about squaw is that there is very little ski/snowboard friction. I have never been asked "how come you don't snowboard" at squaw because any snowboarder who asks a question like that reveals that he knows very little about the mountains. Having said all that, I will not support Burton. They have been anti-skiing for many years, and I for one will not support a company that wants our money after talking shit about skiing for years. Skiers first did schmidiots 20 years ago, and boarders have still not done it. I have no problem with boarders who are cool, and most boarder/skier conflicts are between people, not sports. But for Burton to diss the sport that I love for many years and then turn around and try to profit really bothers me.
 
burton makes shitty boards, sick bindings and sick outerwear, if they wanna bring their outerwear over to skiing im all for it
 
Just curious, where did you get all this info on jake? Im not trying to hate, i just wondering. I live in stowe (same town as Jake) and i havent heard any of this stuff. Like he put up a pool for the town and stuff...to do that you have to have money and to have the money you have to have control of your company.

But if you have different info, id love to hear it cause i could be wrong about him.
 
i agree that they would be sell-outs once they made skis, personnaly i wouldnt wear there stuff, cause like someone said(forgot who) they had the biggest anit-ski image built up for them, and now they are going to sponsor skiers or possibly make skis, the spells sell-out
 
The term "sell-out" is such a played out stubborn term. Companies are businesses who's #1 goal is to make money. So if the snowboarding masses want to hate on skiers, then thats what they have to sell to make money. And now times have changed, the snowboarding vs. skiing thing is so much less now, and everyone is cool with eachother. Who the fuck cares.

Some of you have this need to turn skiing into an "image" rather than just having fun on the snow with your friends. If you ski for the fun of it, and don't worry about what the brand name is under your feet, or on your chest, then skiing will be twice as fun. Some of you kids really kill me with the way you look at the sport.
 
if you're the ceo of a multi million dollar corporation, they are going to do whatever they can to try and make more money, it's common business sense, that doesn't mean they are a "sell out" it just means they are plain smart. why not try and bring together a culture that is split by combining the industries. why not try and take over the winter scene and basically monopolize the corporations.

also, how nice would it be to not have that "i hate you" look from, or to the boarders. maybe burton is actually trying to revitalize the sport by getting rid of the black/white barrier.

just my thoughts...
 
He has legal control over the company yes...BUT he doesn't seem to care where it's going. Burton opened a shop in the middle of NYC. Quote "We are trying to bring the Soul back to the city" Get a clue it was never in the city...it was at the mountain.
 
Ouch that really hurts, coming from a guy whos been on this site for a month. Damn man, I bet you're way smarter than me. I should just back off and let you win the argument. Oh wait this is an opinion and there is no right or wrong. Get a clue buckoo.
 
i'm personally not a big fan of burton. i work in a shop, and i would say that 60% of the shit we send back for warranty is burton. i own a pair of ronin 3L pants, and i think helly hansen is light years ahead of them in terms of quality and comfort. as far as their boards go, they are cool looking (for the most part) but they are all noodles and they break, alot.

burton is a huge company with many factions. as much as i dislike burton, jake has evidently done something right to have 4 or 5 subcompanies and a stranglehold on a large portion of the market all while producing and distributing shit. good for him if he can push his hats and tshirts to frat fags in miami beach.
 
He doesnt SEEM to care or doesnt care? there is a huge difference.

First and foremost skiing and snowboarding are businesses. If my company had become as big as Burton has, through hard work and inovation, i would definatly take advantage of my rep and expand my market. Just cause its not CORE or whatever doesnt mean they cant still make an awsome product.

Agreed the soul of snowboarding and skiing lies in the mountains...and im not sure if that includes the terrain parks of today, but today its about money...actually come to think of it, it always has been.
 
Yeah it's a business. Their products AREN'T that great. You realize that there is like 3 hand made board companies out there. Mervin, Never summer, and someone else. I'm not saying cuz it's not core it's not cool. I just HATE the image Burton is spreading to the world. It sucks that it's all about money. I love seeing new up and coming companies. All I know is the larger these companies grow, the lesser new companies you will see. The further the sport of skiing will grow apart.
 
I totally respect Jake as a businessman, but I hate to see where the comapny is heading. It's not Jake on the reigns of the horse either.
 
Doesnt Mervin produce for alot of other companies too? It was my understading that there are like 13 factories that produce for a bunch of different companies.
 
M3 is such a great brand, my friends who board all have M3 boards and gear. Holds up and shreds the mountain.
 
i for one will never buy anything burton. why? because:

there should be oppertunities for new companies. these new companies often have very progressive ideas and designs, and ignoring them would not only hinder the development of the sport, but also take cash from the owners, whom are people who really care about the sport. burton is a HUGE comporation, and a majority of the profits go to ceos, investors, etc, not riders, and DEFINATLY not people who care about my sport.

burton boards are junk. thier bindings are junk. disagree? well, i actually have expierience with ski/board construction, and burton boards are not that great. while they may have fancy technology, in the world of freeriding, the KISS acronym is to live by. burtons are weak boards. ive seen TONS of um break. in fact, the only boards ive ever seen broke were burtons. thier bindings are all plastic, and thier insert patterns are stupid. not only do they make it more difficult to fit bindings, but they eliminate a contact point, which reduces input responsiveness. they also have boards with straight line inserts, so only 2 screws hold the binding on. that is simply retarded, for sooooo many reasons.

burton outerwear, while nice, is not all that good looking, and it is EVERYWHERE. i can make one run anywhere on the mountain without seeing burton outerware. i personally do not want to blend in with the crowd, and there are loads of companies producing just as good of outerwear that looks better and is much less common.

and yes, burton hates skiing.

i am ALL for companies like lib tech getting involved with the sport. because unlike burton, who would be strictly interested in profiting, lib actually has some ingenious ideas and incredibly well built products that they are bringing to us.

and if dont think line will ever build snowboards, go look at the ol prophet 150s. those could easily be mounted as an alpine board.
 
ummmm so yeah... for the longest time burton was so against skiing and skiiers. But now they have that redd helmet and I think that they already have some sponsered skiiers to the team.. but i'm not a big fan
 
If there is one thing that i have learned from 12 years of riding:

The 'new tech' that all these companies claim to come out with each year is really a bunch of media hype. Their are a few things that affect the way a board rides.

Camber

Flex

Sidecut

Weight

And sidewall construction.

Aside from Inca, a company that came out with a double camber board, one camber under each foot, there has been little change in the way boards were constructed in the last 5 years. Most of the changes that have been made are minute; lowering the height of the tip and tail and new age graphics.

One of the few intresting advancements was actually made by the company in question, Burton. Last year they introduced Infinate Ride technology. Basically they build a board with double the camber and flex the shit out of it till it has the proper amount. It gets rid of all the wood fatigue in the board. This keeps the boards from getting sloppy after a season of hard riding (a problem i had with my M3, a board i LOVED).

My point is that just cause a company isnt driven by a couple of core dudes that produce a boutique product doesnt mean that they dont care, or they cant produce a great product. Takes all shapes and sizes and i believe burton is using its colosal status to move snowsports forwawrd, not to regress.
 
It would be kinda weird to see Burton skis, but there are other ways for Burton to move into the ski industry.

They could make skis under a different brand or buy an existing ski company. I say why not? didn't Quicksilver buy Rossingol a while ago? Quicksilver started out as a board brand.
 
ANON IS BURTON!!! LET THE COMPANY PROGRESS THEY MIGHT MAKE SOME TIGHT SHIT. LINE ALREADY HAS HEADED TOWARD SNOWBOARD TECHNOLOGY WITH THE INVADER...
 
my uncle could have been sponsered by burton when they first came out. He thought snowboarding wouldn't be that big.

I would have been a boarder though.
 
yeah burton wear is sick but quite expensive, i ear iut and who cares what snowboarders think
 
Quicksilver started out more as a wetsuit/surf clothing brand. They then branched into snowboarding clothing, but to my knowledge, they did not make snowboards. Burton started out as a specifically snowboard company who took a very anti-skiing stance. I think prior would be an example of a snowboarding company that now makes skis. To my knowledge prior never put skiing down the way burton did.
 
Why is it junk? Did you ride the shittiest model? You probably rode the infinity. You can't diss never summer for making shitty boards. They are one of the last hand made board companies in the world. Some Burton boards have qualitiy, but most are just pieces of shit. They are the most warrantied board out there. You realize Never Summer has had like 3 warranty issues in the past 2 years. Yeah, they definately make shitty boards.
 
this is quite true. fuck burton if they've said fuck us. would they still want to make skis if there wasn't a huge market out there for them? no
 
i dunno which one i rode. i have heard that they are tough as nails and im not saying they are a bad board company, they are probably nasty, just my experience wasnt so hot.

is it possible that burtons are waranteed the most because they are sold the most? i mean, if they are as huge as they seem they they must move alot more product than most other companies, resulting in a higher volume of warentee requests.
 
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