I'm all for brim, it's why I bought a Bern Watts. It's there, but not too big, that's why I like it. Some people (snowboarders mostly) like to wear Sandbox helmets because they have a bigger brim, but I think they're shit helmets protection wise. Mind you, many might say the same thing about Bern helmets, but there hasn't been a time where I felt safer with it off than on.