Boot Doc insoles in Full tilt Twall

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So I work at a ski shop and the boot doc rep came and gave us all insoles to put in our boots. I got the S9 insoles! pretty stoked on that. I have heard of people saying that full tilts dont need an insole and already have built-in insoles. I was kind of nervous about how they would fit in but they seem to be fine just walking around and what not. So now that I am done talking about mine, does anyone else have boot doc insoles in full tilts that have had good experiences?
 
I personally have never owned FT's or done any work on FT's but from what I understand the problem with footbeds (or insoles) in FT is the FT liners bottom part which your foot sits on is soft, unlike most liners which makes it hard to get the footbed in the right position. I think it is soft because FT don't actually come with any kind of footbed or insole, supposedly the liner of the boot will mold to your foot (it won't actually truly do this though). It is more difficult to get the footbed to sit squarely in place, if the footbed isn't in the right position then it isn't really going to achieve anything because your foot will still be mispositioned.

I have never seen those footbeds before, did you get them molded to your foot or did they just come in a certain shape already and you just put them into the liner?

If they are what you call trim to fits, meaning they come in a certain shape already and you just trim them down to fit into the boot then they won't be optimal. Yes they will probably be better than no footbed if they're in the liner properly but they won't provide the support of a fully custom footbed. Ideally you want to get a full custom molded footbed that is unique to your feet.
 
hey op, i have the TW full tilts too and was wonderin the same thing about a different type of insertable footbeds. also, thanks negromancer for a good response... K+ for errybody
 
13186187:a_shaky_gif said:
hey op, i have the TW full tilts too and was wonderin the same thing about a different type of insertable footbeds. also, thanks negromancer for a good response... K+ for errybody
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Basically there are three types of footbeds:

1. The default one you get in a stock boot. They're complete trash and do nothing. Just add a layer between your foot and the liner no actual support.

2. Then there are trim-to-fits. These are footbeds that come already shaped to a particular profile. You don't mold these and they aren't custom to your feet. Basically you cut them down to size so they fit in the boot and that's it. They offer some level of support, they're certainly better than the default but they won't give you the full support you need.

3. Custom made footbed, these are fully custom molded to your feet. They will be unique as no two people have the exact same feet and are by far the best. They offer the most support and best impact reduction. You should always go for full custom.

Ideally you want to get custom footbeds made first and then try on boots because a footbed can change the feel and fit of a boot as it will change your foots position in a boot. So a boot that may not fit very well without a footbed may fit a lot better with a footbed.
 
13186181:Negromancer said:
I personally have never owned FT's or done any work on FT's but from what I understand the problem with footbeds (or insoles) in FT is the FT liners bottom part which your foot sits on is soft, unlike most liners which makes it hard to get the footbed in the right position. I think it is soft because FT don't actually come with any kind of footbed or insole, supposedly the liner of the boot will mold to your foot (it won't actually truly do this though). It is more difficult to get the footbed to sit squarely in place, if the footbed isn't in the right position then it isn't really going to achieve anything because your foot will still be mispositioned.

I have never seen those footbeds before, did you get them molded to your foot or did they just come in a certain shape already and you just put them into the liner?

If they are what you call trim to fits, meaning they come in a certain shape already and you just trim them down to fit into the boot then they won't be optimal. Yes they will probably be better than no footbed if they're in the liner properly but they won't provide the support of a fully custom footbed. Ideally you want to get a full custom molded footbed that is unique to your feet.
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yes they are full custom. mine seem to fit very will in mine as far as sitting square in there but like I said have not skied on them yet. I think I need to trim my arches so they fit a little better.

So we have the s7 and s9 boot doc insoles in our shop and I think we might be getting the s5 for more of a price point insole. Anyway the s7 is more for comfort. The bottom has the reflective shit(forgot the technical name) on the bottom to keep your feet warm. They also have a layer of shock absorbing material. The s9 is all about performance so the top is going to be have more grip on it and the support structure is going to be more rigid offering better support and better power transmission. The s9 does not have the reflective stuff or the shock absorption on it. so that's what I got from the clinic I'm sure im not quite there on some thing and if so please enlighten me.
 
I've worked with boot doc for 2 years.

Whilst they are just trim to fit footbeds they are kind of semi custom... they heat mold to your foot.

By no means are they the same as a fully custom foot bed, bed still better than most other trim to fits on the market.

I really dont like all the fancy footbeds they offer with the magnets and reflective shit etc. I personally just use low arch s7's as they are no nonsense just a decent support for a flat foot like mine.

Ive been down full custom route before and just suffered so much with my Arches... I have no experience using them in full tilt, I've used them in Head raptors and K2 sypnes
 
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Ive been down full custom route before and just suffered so much with my Arches... I have no experience using them in full tilt, I've used them in Head raptors and K2 sypnes
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Often people do get cramping when they do to a full custom because they're feet aren't used to being supported and so muscles that are now in different positions because of the support can cramp up and hurt.

This is why it's a good idea to wear the ski boots around the house to let your feet get accustomed to the footbed, you could even take the footbed out and put it into your normal shoes for a while. You're less likely to get pain when your feet aren't under heavy load from skiing. Once your feet have gotten used to the support then put them back into the boots and ski with them.
 
13186711:Negromancer said:
Often people do get cramping when they do to a full custom because they're feet aren't used to being supported and so muscles that are now in different positions because of the support can cramp up and hurt.

This is why it's a good idea to wear the ski boots around the house to let your feet get accustomed to the footbed, you could even take the footbed out and put it into your normal shoes for a while. You're less likely to get pain when your feet aren't under heavy load from skiing. Once your feet have gotten used to the support then put them back into the boots and ski with them.
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Unfortunately I destroyed my feet when I was a kid in ski boots with no support. I then did 1 and a half seasons in custom foot beds skiing every day and I just suffered.

I'm much happier nowa days.
 
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