Bio vs. Rodeo Debate.

underflipped

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Having a large debate about bios and rodeos.

My friend believe that bio do not exist and are made up. He says anything beyond Rodeo 7 is just called Bio, however it doesn't really exist. If someone attempt or does a bio its automatically a rodeo not a bio. He says that CR Johnson wasnt doing a bio, but a rodeo.

I say that rodeos beyond 7, are rodeos over a 7 look like a rodeo 5 with straight spinning. Rodeo are a more backward spinning rotation, while bio is more foreward rotation toward misty. And bios exist.

Can rodeos be confused with bios?
 
rodeos can't be confused with bios. both exist, and are thrown differently. bios are not thrown like mistys.
 
fast spinning rodeos can be confused with bio. but considering bios havnt been done since CR johnsons bio 1440 id say that bios are basically fast mellow rodeos.

 
i always thought of em as those bs 7s andreas wiig does off his heels, which is kinda set like a rodeo, but crs shit was different for sure.
 
No. Picture the skier going left to right in a sequence off any park jump.

In a bio, the rider corks head first. Never gets fully inverted.

In a cork, the rider corks head back. Never gets fully inverted.

In a d-spin, the rider corks head back, but gets inverted (feet over head).

In a rodeo, the rider sets head back. Does a full inversion.

In a misty, the rider sets head first. Does a full inversion.

 
bios CAN be done by ppl other than pros!!kid at my mt. kills them up to 900plenty of ppl can do them they just arent a "popular" trick
 
This!

I think bios on tramps and boards are way easier than corks. I have tried bios before on the snow too, not corks though.
 
exactly. I don't know how anyone could confuse a bio with a rodeo, they are thrown completely differently. Some people confuse rodeos and flatspins, that's more understandable.
 
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Two days at Park City with The News from John Prows on Vimeo.

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i'm scared of sounding ridiculous... but...

cork opposite is bio

misty opposite is rodeo

flair opposite is branny.. and so on

rodeo and bio, difference being full inversion and revert back to orginal position
 
They're closer to mistys than any other rotation. I could see how a bio could be confused with a misty, just as a flatspins are sometimes confused with rodeos.
 
90% of Rodeo 9's or 10's are just bios. you can't stay inverted long enough to make it like a true rodeo.. you just set it like a rodeo but dip out of it right away.
 
Whoa, I can't believe how many of you think they are so different. There's almost no difference between a rodeo and a bio for a big spin.
 
yep and to whoever saying bios arent done anymore, me and my friend can throw bio 9's and bios are wayyy baller but they look a lot like rodeos on big spins
 
aha, arent flat 5s basically bio 5s? I mean half the time people are calling rodeos flatspins, i think snowboarders are right, there all rodeos. some are upside down, some not so much.
 
those were all bios or just straight spins. i didn't see him go inverted once in that video.

Rodeo9s and 10s (and up) are rarely actual rodeos, the skier never goes completely inverted (feet above head).
 
Flat 5s are not bio 5s. In a flat 5 you rotate around the vertical axis while in a bio 5 you rotate around the axis going through your body (horizontal) when completely "bio'd" / corked.
 
are you talking about James Rullo, because I saw him do one and he straight up stomped it. btw, he's only like 14.
 
this is definitely right. exactly what i though.
cork is spinning "backwards" like throw you shoulder down and back. your feet dont ever go above your head. bio is the opposite. you spin forwards. so if you cork and throw you left shoulder back, you bio and throw is forward and down. rodeo is thrown back but your feet go above your head. misty is the opposite but forward. definitely.
 
ill throw my 2 cents inmisty- basically an off axis front flip with a spin. picture running up to a table, dipping your right shoulder down to the left, and rolling over the table bio- uninverted mistycork- pretty obviousd spin- cork that goes invertedrodeo- basically a lincoln with a spin. if youre gonna split hairs it should be thrown to the side and back
therefore a bio is not like a rodeo really
 
so many dumb kids on here... a pro just needs to make an edit with every trick (bio, cork, rodeo, flat, etc...) label each trick then make a thread and have it stickied.
 
Just to jump in, I would say that I have found bio to be set the same as a rodeo, except without the roll over the shoulder and instead just the rotation....my personal experience.Everyone seems to have a slightly different way of setting and performing their tricks, Rowens definition has it sorted though.
 
if you look at old footy, you can see an important difference between the two in big spins. for a bio, the big dip comes after the first 360, whereas for a rodeo, the big dip is right off the lip, and the spin flattens out after that.
 
your all fuck ups

a rodeo that never goes inverted is a flat spin, a misty the never goes inverted is a bio, end of story
 
Any rodeo past a 9 is pretty much bio in terms of what the actually definition of each trick is. However there is a pretty clear difference between how each trick is set, so people just call the trick how it was original set. So that's why its called a rodeo 10 even though it technically looks like a bio 10; because the skier set it as if they would in any normal rodeo spin but just spun so much that they did not go inverted enough to become a "true rodeo".
 
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