Bindings for surface uppers.

Kridetus

Kridetus

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So, i bought the Surface uppers. Would the the pivot 12:s be good for them? i don’t ski that extreme and i weight 143 pounds (65kg)
 
Not sure what other people do but my personal guideline is that I should never be within 2 of the max or minimum din. I'd guess that you're not gonna have it higher than 10 or lower than 6 so I think you'll be fine.
 
Having skied both, the pivots just feel better. I used to think all the talk of elasticity and underfoot flex was BS marketing but there is a noticeable difference. I’ve found the release on the pivots is more consistent too

14546923:BLandz said:
What makes you think pivots are far better than attacks
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14546923:BLandz said:
What makes you think pivots are far better than attacks
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Better build quality, better durability, better mounting pattern with less holes, better materials and better price in this case for a superior binding.
 
14546966:Kridetus said:
I bought the pivot 14:s. Since the skis are 105mm and i bought the 115 pivots will the pivots brakes break?
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And i bought the 14:s because i got a good deal on them
 
14546966:Kridetus said:
I bought the pivot 14:s. Since the skis are 105mm and i bought the 115 pivots will the pivots brakes break?
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115 will work fine. I have the 115 of my 108 wildcat. 95 is borderline on a 104 deathwish with a little work.

the brakes won’t break on your 105.
 
14546966:Kridetus said:
will the pivots brakes break?
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14546987:PartyBullshiit said:
the brakes won’t break on your 105.
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Yo [tag=282081]@Kridetus[/tag] come back to this thread after your pivot brakes snap after you’re first sw eject and then i’ll give u guys 3 more reasons why STH is the superior binding.

jk pivots are sick I loved mine but the brakes suck balls on them. As someone who has tried all of the most popular bindings i’ll say that pivots are marginally better for releasing but it has too many cons so im an STH fanboy now.
 
And dont get me wrong the STH has its cons too but you gotta pick your poison when it comes to bindings
 
14547007:BLandz said:
Yo [tag=282081]@Kridetus[/tag] come back to this thread after your pivot brakes snap after you’re first sw eject and then i’ll give u guys 3 more reasons why STH is the superior binding.

jk pivots are sick I loved mine but the brakes suck balls on them. As someone who has tried all of the most popular bindings i’ll say that pivots are marginally better for releasing but it has too many cons so im an STH fanboy now.
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My sth2 are not superior to my pivots.

I’ve had pre releases from my sth2 because my boot sole wore down and the original adjustments were no longer tight. That’s why the new strive 16gw are auto adjust. Removes the failure point.

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14547007:BLandz said:
Yo [tag=282081]@Kridetus[/tag] come back to this thread after your pivot brakes snap after you’re first sw eject and then i’ll give u guys 3 more reasons why STH is the superior binding.

jk pivots are sick I loved mine but the brakes suck balls on them. As someone who has tried all of the most popular bindings i’ll say that pivots are marginally better for releasing but it has too many cons so im an STH fanboy now.
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When i get my next skis i might try the STH:s
 
14547010:PartyBullshiit said:
My sth2 are not superior to my pivots.

I’ve had pre releases from my sth2 because my boot sole wore down and the original adjustments were no longer tight. That’s why the new strive 16gw are auto adjust. Removes the failure point.

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U have some sick as skis.
 
14547010:PartyBullshiit said:
My sth2 are not superior to my pivots.

I’ve had pre releases from my sth2 because my boot sole wore down and the original adjustments were no longer tight. That’s why the new strive 16gw are auto adjust. Removes the failure point.

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like I said, all bindings have their pros and cons, but if your boot sole wears down you can just adjust the sth to fit the boot again and if your boot sole is wearing down that much idk wtf ur doing to ur boots tbh hahaha.
 
14547013:BLandz said:
like I said, all bindings have their pros and cons, but if your boot sole wears down you can just adjust the sth to fit the boot again and if your boot sole is wearing down that much idk wtf ur doing to ur boots tbh hahaha.
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That’s why they dropped the strive gw. To get rid of the need for adjustments because using your boost will wear the soles. That’s just a fact. And sth’s are known to have pre release when the toes get worn down and the adjustments come out of spec, again another well known fact.

I should be using cat tracks to protect the soles. But don’t.
 
14547016:PartyBullshiit said:
That’s why they dropped the strive gw. To get rid of the need for adjustments because using your boost will wear the soles. That’s just a fact. And sth’s are known to have pre release when the toes get worn down and the adjustments come out of spec, again another well known fact.

I should be using cat tracks to protect the soles. But don’t.
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Ya I totally agree with what your saying. Having that much adjustability comes with that problem, I had it myself, all im saying is that all bindings have pros and cons and I like the pros too much on the STH to go back to pivots. And the biggest pros imo are the way they look aesthetically (ik, not very tech of me, sry, im that guy) and the ability to quickly change brakes if they snap which constantly happens to my pivots. Like I said, performance wise Pivots are slightly better but i’ll take checking adjustments and high stack height over snapping brakes and needing a leash or remount and a shitty step in (comparatively).

We can go on all day about pros and cons of all bindings but they are both well designed and i’ve never felt unsafe on my STH’s, they do have a good release, not quite as good as pivots but still good nonetheless. Both are excellent bindings but im staying with my STH’s and im sure you will stay with your pivots and I don’t blame you lol
 
14547025:BLandz said:
Ya I totally agree with what your saying. Having that much adjustability comes with that problem, I had it myself, all im saying is that all bindings have pros and cons and I like the pros too much on the STH to go back to pivots. And the biggest pros imo are the way they look aesthetically (ik, not very tech of me, sry, im that guy) and the ability to quickly change brakes if they snap which constantly happens to my pivots. Like I said, performance wise Pivots are slightly better but i’ll take checking adjustments and high stack height over snapping brakes and needing a leash or remount and a shitty step in (comparatively).

We can go on all day about pros and cons of all bindings but they are both well designed and i’ve never felt unsafe on my STH’s, they do have a good release, not quite as good as pivots but still good nonetheless. Both are excellent bindings but im staying with my STH’s and im sure you will stay with your pivots and I don’t blame you lol
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Completely agree. Everything has pros and cons.

actually agree with you as well on the looks of the sth. They are a nice shape overall. Though I think the new strive looks better than the sth personally at least with the toe as the heel is the same as my sth2

I enjoy variety with bindings just got some strive 16’s to try on my deathwish 104

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14547014:Kridetus said:
What kind of experiences have u had on the uppers?
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I've really enjoyed them. theyre really playful but still supportive. the width is really fun as well. mine have held up quite well, after 2 seasons there's no edge cracks, just topsheet chips and a few dents in the edge.
 
14547174:Gourd said:
I've really enjoyed them. theyre really playful but still supportive. the width is really fun as well. mine have held up quite well, after 2 seasons there's no edge cracks, just topsheet chips and a few dents in the edge.
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Where did you mount them and how do they work in pow?
 
14547188:Kridetus said:
Where did you mount them and how do they work in pow?
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I mounted mine dead center, we don’t get pow where I’m from. I think if you mounted them at -1 or -2 they’d to pretty well in not super deep pow. They have a good amount of rocker, and have floated quite well through the rare soft snow I find.
 
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