Bindings for my Public Enemys

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just wondering, what is a lifter binding?

When they say wide bindings... what exactly does wide pertain to? When is wide needed over regular? I would assume that it simply depends on how wide your ski is... is that true?

Finally, I was wondering, what's the difference between "Look PX 12 Ti Lifter Wide Alpine Binding" and Look P12 bindings?

Basically, I'm asking these questions as a way of researching which ones to get for a new pair of PEs which I bought today.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

 
a lfter binding basicly keeps your boot of the ski, which isnt a good thing for park. you will be less stable. 'wide bindings' basicly means wide breaks. fatter skis require wide breaks. look px12 is a good binding(or so i hear) and so is the p12, so that choice would probably be around price and look i guess
 
haha, thanks for your input but you both have different answers so more opinions on this matter would help me out. otherwise, do you guys think that the bindings I listed are ideal for the ski I bought? Are they a good choice?

Thanks!
 
The lifter on those isn't too much more than the regular PX12. I use those on my Big Troubles for powder and they're fine. Don't worry baout it.
 
I see, but still am not sure as to whether I should get lifter bindings or not. More over, I'm not sure whether to go with the PX 12 Ti binding or just the P12? Does anyone actually know what the difference is? Which would better fit my ski?

Finally, I'm assuming I should get wide breaks, is this true?

All this pertains to my public enemeys.

Thanks in advance!
 
The PX12s have very minimal lift. They were designed to replace the older P12 binding. Very good forward pressure, and they engage much crispier than the older P-series bindings.

The P12s have a turntable heelpiece. Very popular, but the design is outdated. It's not saying it's bad, but the PX12 does have some better features to it.

Between the two, I would go with the PX12. However, you will want a wider brake as the stock bindings will only accomodate a waist up to 80 mm. A little bending would do the trick, but if you can get the wider brakes at no extra cost, I would go that route. So overall, both excellent bindings. Your final decision will probably depend on the price. If the PX12 is only marginally more expensive, I would get those over the P12s.
 
Ah, thanks a lot for your input. For the P12, what do you mean by a turntable heelpiece? What is that and what's it good for?

Also, what's the difference if it says it's a TI binding or not?

Finally, I was wondering about Rossignols... if I had to choose between Look or Rossignol bindings because I hear they're the same, which should I get? And if Rossignols which ones are like the PX12's or which ones would match the Public Enemys best?

Thanks a lot! Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
The turntable heel rotates on a pivot. It's supposed to help with more consistant releases and is "safer" than other static heelpieces. It also gives you more elastic travel (the ability of your boot to move a bit without popping out when you ski hard).

You can read up about the technology on the Rossi site, where they call it the Axial technology. Rossi's equivalent of Looks PX series bindings is the Axial 2 bindings. The TI means there's titanium in it.
 
Ah... I'm learning more with every post, but still not sure about what to buy.

Which Rossis are better for the Public Enemys...

Rossignol Scratch 120 Composite WB Bindings

-or-

AXIAL2 120 TI PRO Wide Brake

I'm assuming the Scratch's, but I'm not sure so I'm asking your guys opinion.

Basically, I'm leaning towards buying the

Rossignol Scratch 120 Composite WB for my public enemys. Overall would this be a good choice?

Thanks!
 
I'd personally get the Rossi scratch bindings. They have minimal lift and they are tried and true. Some people are having problems with the PX series.
 
I think you should take them back and buy mine same PEs with some rossi bindings all brand new and I will save you some money PM me if your interested
 
I'd get the Axial TI... but that's just because it has titanium parts in it and is also a bit lighter. The lift on them is minimal, not something to be concerned about at all.
 
no one else skis public enemys? c'mon now... help me out, please... just a few more opinions will help because I'm now sort of stuck between two bindings.
 
i have public enemies, and a few other skis, all i can say, if you go with any look or roosi P-series binding youll be fine
 
Get whichever is cheaper, they're both good bindings. If they're the same, get the PX. The P series turntable heels can develop play after a lot of hard use. It's not a huge deal though, especially if you're light and aren't jumping huge kickers.
 
Hey, it's not really your fault because you read my original post all the way at the top... but as the thread progressed I changed from the Looks to asking whether I should get

Rossignol Scratch 120 Composite WB Bindings

-or-

AXIAL2 120 TI PRO Wide Brake

Help is appreciated! Thanks!
 
^ both are a solid binding, and tyhere is little difference. i would go with the scratch. the axial2 ti is heavier, but it has more metal... so if your not a hard skier, the scratches are great for you.
 
you should really consider the look equivalent of each of those:

p12 jib w/ wide brake

px12 ti w/ wide brake

they are the same binding because rossi buys their technology from look, which is why rossis are always $20 more for the same binding
 
ah, well I'm not really concerned about price.

I'm still kind of wondering, what is the difference between the two bindings I posted above.

Is the Axial2 better and stronger and for that reason cost more, or they are completely different bindings? What is the difference is what I'm wondering...

Thank you
 
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