Binding upgrade help

[powdered_donut]

i have my silencers mounted with salomon s810 binds and lifter plates (dont ask) im thinking of upgrading to look px 12 jibs. how much of a preformance difference will i notice?

 

[thenakedcellist]

do t, salmon bindings are pretty heavy. The pk12 jibbs are pretty light. Definitively a lighter performance. I say do it.

 

[canadianskier]

ive got px 12 jibs on my scratch's, i haven't reidden them a lot yet but they've performed pretty solid, release when i want them to and they're pretty light

 

[Silence]

s810's are pretty average bindings, particularly from a construction point of view.

the px12's are a much better binding - and they aren't TOO expensive either..definitely look into them

 

[poofartpee]

they will deff be better then the S810 but i am starting to question look/rossi bindings durablility...i broke my px12's on my second day on them, fuck

 

[dave44]

Perhaps you should get a Salomon binding (STH 12? Z12? Z10?) and use the same set of holes?

 

[skiminnesota]

this better be a joke?

 

[skithesprings]

sth 12 are probably a good idea if you want a good upgrade. no problems with mine so far

 

[powdered_donut]

how well do they absorb landings and vibration?

 

[skithesprings]

better than my s912 ti's if thats any help

 

[powdered_donut]

which is better then my s810s i believe so really good haha

 

[tSki]

bindings dont absorb landings, look puts little pads under their "jib" bindings for marketing

 

[skithesprings]

jea and i thought my 912's were the hot shit untill i got to these

 

[Literature]

I would notice two big things that would be different: toe piece adjustment and heel retention.

The Salomon toe piece for the 810s (not the Z series) is pretty adjustable. This is good if you have a worn boot sole, as it allows you to lower the binder, while the PX toe is not adjustable. However, I find that I have to retighten my S914s (more or less the same toe, with more metal) after hard crashes or after a lot of use, so it may be worth it for that. The Look toe is one of the safest in the industry, and functions very well.

With my Salomon heels, I am either in or out, there is no in between. However, the heels on the P and PX Looks have probably the best retention of any binder, meaning that when you almost come out, but don't quite, they will pull the ski back onto your foot. This does not happen with the Salomons, and I notice basically no prereleasing with my Rossis (same as the Look binders) while my Salomons have to be cranked to 11 to keep them from prereleasing on hard landers.

Hope this helps.

 

[skithesprings]

with the new sth's they fixed up a lot of the retention problems and condensed the whole system a bit.

 

[Literature]

And I haven't skied the STHs so I am not a good source of info on them.

 

[dave44]

What about the ones from Staples??