Binding Answering time (with a little complaint :)

I'd like to jump on the bandwagon and denounce markers.

I've worked in and managed a backshop for 3+ years now, and we sell more markers than any other bindings. This wouldn't be a problem (90% of our customers are cruising geezers) if we didn't get them back with some regularity. They tend to test mediocrely when doing the torque tests (in terms of consistancy). They are better than a lot (lines and low-end/entry level bindings are the worst) but its still not great. Another huge complaint I have is their brakes. Our demo skis have Marker comp 1400s on them, and I constantly was breaking their brakes. Its kind of a bitch to change them, and a huge bitch to order them (working in a shop). It also caused the binding itself to crack more than once, and that sucked. Landing switch on markers is just NOT a good idea.

Don't get me wrong, I have thoroughly destroyed salomons before (cracked a toe-piece in half, broke the rails, brakes, etc etc) but they generally deserved it. They are the most consistant in my personal experiances both on the hill and in the shop. Looks pivot series also tests very well, and is a VERY close second in my opinion.

Keep in mind for freeskiing (especially in the park) its better to have your bindings flush to the ski... the markers all come with what equates to a built in riser. This is, of course, debatable to no end.

As a side note: I also agree that 90% of the people looking for race-stock bindings don't need them. As a general rule of thumb, if you NEED race-stock stuff someone is giving it to you for free. Pre-releasing sucks, sure, but cranking up your DIN to uber isn't necessarily going to stop that. I'd advise you to get a solid understanding of how bindings work before you adjust them yourself, or ask random people on the internet. If I can find a spare DIN chart in my shop, I'll bring it home and scan/host it.

grant
 
05/06 Neox bindings are definitly lighter than last years. Not too many changes otherwise. The Atomic race bindings are supposed to be switching over next season too.
 
^Agreed. After breaking a pair of Reactor 10s first day, and two pairs of Rossi Scratch 140s (which were warrentied), I still use the 140s(last years). They seem to have the best heel and toe release of the bindings i have ridden. They are fairly strong, but still have the brake problem. I am currently running them at Din of 10, and still am blowing out once in a while. I am about 5' 8" and 180 lbs, so i am hard on bindings, but I still suggest them.
 
Alot of the reason I buy race bindings isnt the face that they have high dins, in face it has nothing to do with that. I still keep my dins at 10 the same place they would be on something like a look p12 or salomon s912. Only difference is I cant rip the bindings in half skiing fast like I can plastic bindings.
 
I was looking at the Salomon bindings today and I have a quick question that I havent been able to find the answer to. Whats the B thing?? Like theres s912 Ti B80, 85, and 90, and I was wondering what that number means? Is it the width of the brakes or something or is it something else? Anyone know?
 
I'm a big fan of either s912ti's or Line R12's. I've got R10's due to a combo of my broke ass and my shop lacking more R12's in stock.

But I like htis guide, it's good.
 
Axium = low end rossi bindings, Axial (well, Axial2 now) = higher end binding.
 
Some good info on here, but another important point to keep in mind also is the upward release of the toe.

Rossignol/Look bindings have the only true upward (or backward) release. Salomons will release upwards but only on a diagonal slant. Atomic and Marker(Biometric?) say they will but when I tried to do so in the shop they never released. Lines and Tyrolias don't have upward toe releases.

Having mounted and done releases for 3+ years my safest binding choice is the Rossignol/Looks Axials prior to this years Axial2 (which i think is a horrible idea, bring back the turntable). You get upward toe release, the 7 points of contact, and the heel pivot which greatly reduces the chance of destroying your knee. I recommend for freeskiing, all mountain or racing

I actually used a set of Lines R12's all of last season (50+ days) and besides a lot of scratches on them they are just fine (my only beef is the crappy brakes...and their a little heavy). I liked them some people don't. I recommend for freeskiing or all mountain

Salomons are consistent, I like their light weight, however some models (axe+) are a pain to mount. I recommend for freeskiing and/or all mountain

Atomics are nice cause they are light but a buddy of mines has blown up 3 sets in the course of 1 season (too much plastic). (oh and that electronic binding is a frickin joke) I recommend only for all mountain or racing

Markers are ok but their the only binding I have seen fail a return to center test at 6+ din right out of the box numerous times. I had one at 10 and did a twist torque test and the friggin thing stayed open! I recommend only for all mountain or racing.

We no longer carry Tyrolia, they seemed ok when we did, consistent releases. Your guess is as good as mine anymore as I don't know the product line anymore.
 
i am not a fan of salomon... they may be lighter but they sacrafice the dourability which look has... also the toe clip on teh solomons doedn't quite get all of the boot... bad grip.. this is what i find anyway.
 
Ive just got some Mojo 90s and Im between Tyrolias or Looks. Do the Tyrolias prerelease much? I havent heard much, but Im kind of tempted to try them. Any info appreciated, thanks.
 
Everybody taht i know who has tyrolia like them and never had problems with them. and the new mojo 11 and 15 have a good design
 
marker's "free" binding is the best weighted, and most durable (with exception to the brakes) binding i've ever owned
 
Brakes are brakes. They all brakes because ski brakes aren't designed for switch landings, period.

But so far as Marker is concerned, no, we're not biased. Marker blows.
 
really is it? not to be an ass or anything but i couldn't find any defintions online or in a real dictionary.
 
I'd like to see some weight restrictions put next to the lightweight/normal/heavyweight categories. I'm about 185 and dont know if its better to get a 10 din max or a 12-14 din max binding, only because the prices between the two din sets are usually pretty noteworthy.
 
Look Rossi Look Rossi blah blah blah, I've destroyed to many pairs of p10s p12s and p14s, the Rossi FSK series is the only look/rossi binding I'd ever use, Maker's are good bindings but the ski breaks expload alot, Tyolia's Exploade when they touch the snow. And if you actually ski park hard (I'm looking at you Bangor) Line bindings die.
 
ihad tyrolia td8s for awhile and they pretty much broke to the point of they sucked ass, and i thoguht i wouldn't get tyrolias again, then i got a wicked ass deal on ld12s and they have so far been pretty dope for me. ive never had a problem of NOT releasing with tyrolias, although with my td8s i had a prerelease issue. the ld12s have been good about prerelease thoguh.

so in short, i like my ld12s and im going to remount them on some newer skis. i realize its just an opinion, but whatever =)
 
some are better than others.

thats just a stupid comment.

obviously some are better than others.

although they all have to pass a test for the minimum requirements, a person that skis manly park is not going to be on some crappy beginner bindings, this also applys the other way around by begginers not being on some high quality p18 bindings
 
I only ski on the Comp 1400 free from Marker. I'm 6'3 and 225lbs.

Not a park guy but a huge pow and tree skier. Bindings work great!
 
All new bindings are crap!

Marker - Sh*t

New Salomon shape - Sh*t

Look/Rossignol - Sh*t

Line - Absolutely Sh*t

Oh forgot, Atomic - Sh*t

Best bindings are any factory race bindings, preferably salomon as they're the most adjustable. Well worth hunting out! Or some fresh out of the packet Salomon shop bindings from around '97,'98 when companies actually cared how good they made stuff!
 
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