BIG MTN NAME CHANGE!

Mr.BOYD

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So i live up in montana and in the summer of 2007 I pick up the news papper and see big mtn has a name change. Out of state corporations and people higher up on the totem pole who live in california and probiably don't even ski made this desition whith out even asking us locals. The town closest to the mountain is called whitefish, they renamed the mountain Whitefish Mountain Resort. The head guys are triing to make it from a smaller mtn into a Aspen. Then news paper articles are voicing that they don't see why the locals are all mad. A friend of mine new the person who wrought this article and says she only has lived in the vally for about two years and has only gone up for three times befor. My point is that this should not be able to go on and if they want to change the name they should speak with the people first, then deside. God damn that was long.
 
it kinda sucks, but it is only a name.

Im still gonna call it Big Mountain. Whitefish already has a lake, it doesnt need a mountain. lol

Its still one of the best places ever in the history of the universe. There are things I miss since I was a kid growing up there though, maybe some locals will man up and buy some shit back. I miss backdoor burgers, and the place.

sigh, winter come soon so I can go to whitefish and shred some big mountain.
 
Dude, the main CEO said himself that he did NOT want to create another Aspen type town. He said he used to live in Aspen, but moved the fuck out because its gay. You realize, hes dumping a shit load of money into the mtn to make it better for the locals because they use it the most. They are rennovating TWO new chairlifts in one off season. Which means you and I will get to the powder quicker.

PLUS, the actual Mountain is still called Big Mountain but they changed the name of the resort. WMR hired the same company that does marketing for APPLE computers to help them market shit because the previous marketing people had no idea what they were doing.
 
I made it through half your post before your spelling made me pass out. I'll send you the doctor bill and the bill for a new keyboard. I was holding a coffee cup...

But... It is alot of money to throw at a resort and if he wants to change the name, more power to him. Hopefully the mountain biking trails in the summer will get some lovin. Not that they are bad, but more money thrown at them will make it just that much better.
 
old news, sucks though, that resort is becoming so commercialized compared to what it was 10 years ago, iron horse has fucked it over, save whitefish mountain
 
my home moutain changed from purgatory to durango mountain resort a few years back.... but all the locals still call it purg, and it didn't really make that big of a difference.

now all the building goin on up at purg is another story... there tearing down the locals hangout restauraunt to build a multimillion dollar hotel/resort... it makes me angry just thinking about it
 
Fuck Bill Foley(he is the one resposible for this)

if your a local get some pink duct tape and write with a sharpie "ex-FOLEY-ate whitefish" or something of that nature

he is Taking over our town, and i dont like it one bit

and conceptkid......your an idiot
 
seems like an odd choice. Based solely on the name, i'd be much more inclined to ski a resort called Big Mountain than Whitefish.
 
They changed the whole town name of Sherburne to Killington a few years back. They did it because the post office kept delivering our mail to Shelburne. The school is still called Sherburne Elementary School though. (we don't have a high school over here)
 
i ski big mountain every year and from what i've heard, they're losing money every year. this should be a good thing...

and it will always be big mountain to me.
 
Does it really matter if they change the name... Is it gonna take your "hometown pride" away? What's the big deal?
 
You people need to do your homework, didnt you learn anything in highschool? hehe :). These are all articles from the Independent out of Missoula. Apparently, people in whitefish dont know how to do quality non-biased journalism because I havent seen a single article about this from that area.

Fishy biz at the Big





















By:

Paul Peters



Posted: 06/14/2007



















Reflecting a year in which Big Mountain has undergone a number of major changes, the resort’s name is now changing with it.

Winter Sports Inc. (WSI), the corporation that operates Big Mountain

ski resort, announced the name change to Whitefish Mountain Resort June

13.

According to WSI CEO Fred Jones, the old name was “highly generic” and

often confused with other resorts that have “big” in their names, such

as Montana’s Big Sky Resort.

The name change is part of a larger makeover of the company’s brand

image. WSI hired brandadvisors Inc., the San Francisco-based firm

responsible for the images of Apple, National Public Radio and FedEx,

to guide the re-branding.

Jones says the resort will henceforth focus on “cutting through the

usual marketing hype that resorts tend to get into, and really looking

at what is it about Whitefish and Big Mountain that people like.”

He says the “laid back” and “low key” atmosphere of Whitefish is part of what WSI wants to convey.

Along with the name change, the resort’s logo will change from a

snowflake to a fish whose fins morph into a mountaintop, leaves and

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This isn’t the first time the idea of changing the resort’s name has

come up. In the 1980s, there was talk of changing the name to

“Legendary.” That idea never took off.


In the last year, William P. Foley II, chairman and CEO of Fortune 500

company Fidelity National Financial Inc., became the majority

shareholder in WSI, a company founded almost exclusively by local

shareholders in 1947, with about 65 percent of its shares. Foley and

other shareholders have invested $20 million into resort

infrastructure, a new day lodge and two new ski lifts.

Some Whitefish residents have been wary of the changes on the mountain,

and Jones expects some apprehension over the name change.

“I suspect that many locals will continue to call it Big Mountain,”

Jones says, “and that’s fine. Our motivation for a lot of this is, ‘How

do we communicate with people that don’t know us?’”

 


Read this, this was the article I was talking about.

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Business mogul William P. Foley II is Big Mountain’s new majority shareholder. What’s his plan for the future?





















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Among

the improvements Foley has made at Big Mountain include $5.2 million

for two new chair lifts. “These are gigantic investments,” says Foley.

“We’re not going to get any return on this, other than making this a

more attractive place to ski.”

It’s a busy Saturday on Big Mountain. A crowd of people stand at the

bottom of Chair 1 having spent the last 10 minutes shuffling through

one of four lines taking them to the liftees, employees who check lift

tickets with hand-held scanners before funneling the crowd into another

line leading to the lift.

As the liftees work to keep things moving, Fred Jones, CEO of Winter

Sports Inc. (WSI), which operates the ski resort, ducks under the ropes

cordoning off the lift lines, followed by a white-haired man in

sunglasses and a blue and orange Big Mountain jacket. The two men

approach a 20-something liftee named Sara.

“This is Bill,” says Jones, gesturing to his partner next to him, “and he’s going to be a trainee today.”

Bill isn’t a prospective employee, but nothing else is explained, so

Sara hands him her scanner and begins teaching him the basics of the

job.

Bill’s full name is William P. Foley II. This year, he became the

majority shareholder in WSI, controlling 60 percent of the company’s

stock. Foley is also the founder, chairman and CEO of Jacksonville,

Fla.-based Fidelity National Financial Inc., a Fortune 500 company

encompassing the largest title insurance company in the world, among

several other large businesses. Last year, Fidelity earned $12.87

billion in revenue.

Foley’s ownership of WSI is just one of his Montana investments. In

2004, he purchased an 80,000-acre piece of property near Deer Lodge

through which runs both Rock Creek and Willow Creek. He says he’ll

personally screen applicants for a proposed development on the land

known as the Rock Creek Cattle Co. This month he also formed Glacier

Restaurant Group LLC, which includes two Whitefish restaurants he

already owned—The Craggy Range and The Corner House Grille—as well as

popular Whitefish restaurant Mambo Italiano and Montana-based

restaurant chain MacKenzie River Pizza Co. Doug McNicoll, owner of

Mambo, and Steve Shuel, owner of MacKenzie, will retain minority stakes

in the company, but Foley is the majority owner of the new company’s

shares. The plan, he says, is to turn these restaurants into chains in

middle-tier resort towns, like Bend, Ore., and Coeur d’Alene and Sand

Point, Idaho.

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In

February, Foley spent a few hours scanning lift tickets at Big

Mountain’s Chair 1. The CEO is well-known for doing work at the most

basic levels of his companies so he can have direct interaction with

customers.

But of all Foley’s Montana investments, Big Mountain is probably the

most important, especially to residents of Whitefish. For one, it

represents an important piece of the valley’s economy. WSI employs 550

workers at peak season (full disclosure: my wife is one of them), and

earned approximately $13 million in revenues last year.

It also represents community pride. Whitefish residents got WSI off the

ground in 1947 by purchasing shares in the company to keep it afloat.

Many of those shares remained in the hands of locals, including the

children and grandchildren of the original shareholders, until December

2006, when a reverse stock split forced nearly all of them out and

handed control of the company to Foley.

The switch in power has locals openly concerned for Big Mountain’s

future. Former shareholders, along with residents who use the mountain,

worry Foley intends to turn the resort into another Aspen, Colo.—a

world-famous ski town, which has become so popular it’s unintentionally

priced out many locals, becoming an example of what many resort towns

want to avoid. Others wonder if Foley’s aiming to make Big Mountain

another Yellowstone Club, a private membership community near Big Sky

with a $250,000 registration fee in addition to a requirement of buying

or building a multi-million dollar home in a Club subdivision.

Perhaps the greatest fear, however, is that Foley has gotten into WSI only as a way to sell its valuable land assets.

Foley and his intentions are now the subject of mystery and rumor to

residents of Whitefish, partly because of his business reputation and

the fact that few know much about him or his vision of the resort’s

future. And yet here he is scanning lift tickets on a Saturday morning,

at least acting the part as a man of the people.

“I thought it’d be fun,” he says.

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Foley,

since becoming an investor in WSI, has helped invest millions of

dollars into the resort’s infrastructure, part of which helped to

construct this new, $11.5 million day lodge.

Making a mogul

A few days earlier Foley is working from his office just north of

downtown Whitefish. It’s an upscale building featuring exposed lumber

and rock. Inside, Foley and his employees are dressed casually—Foley

eschews corporate dress codes—and everyone refers to the boss as “Bill.”

This particular location—one of three around the country Foley

regularly works from—is home to Fidelity National Timber Resources, a

subsidiary of Fidelity National Financial Inc. In May 2006, in one of

the company’s more prominent and controversial moves, Fidelity

purchased 70 percent of Cascade Timberlands LLC, which owns 300,000

acres of timberland in Oregon. Those shares are now in the possession

of Fidelity National Timber Resources. What happened with Cascade is

illustrative of what some think may happen with Big Mountain.

According to Foley, the massive chunk of Oregon land is in the process

of being rezoned as “resort overlay,” which allows for condos and golf

courses to replace the former timberlands. He says the Oregon land was

undervalued at just $400 per acre.

“I like to find something that’s sort of down and out, where you can

see the potential, put a little into it, and turn it around,” Foley

says.

This seems to be his talent.

Foley, 67, was born in Austin, Texas, but grew up in Amarillo. He says that from a young age, he was interested in business.

“I was always trying to sell something—comic books, lemonade, newspapers…” he says. “I think it’s a little bit in the genes.”

His mother, he notes, started and sold four businesses in her lifetime. “That was something she gave to me,” he says.

Foley graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point.

It wasn’t his first choice—his father pushed him to apply—and, at the

time, he didn’t like the rigor or discipline of the training. But he

credits the Academy with shaping who he is today.

“It taught me how to make decisions,” he says, “and not make excuses—to do the job.”

After three years at West Point, Foley went on to receive his MBA from

Seattle University in 1970, and in 1974 graduated from the University

of Washington School of Law. He went on to help establish a law firm in

1976, where he specialized in real estate law.

In 1984, he spied the opportunity that would make him the mogul he is

today: a small, then-Phoenix-based business named Fidelity National

Title Insurance Company.

“I could see I had a talent for putting deals together,” he says, and

he recognized Fidelity as a better chance to put his business skills to

use. Foley organized a buyout of Fidelity and became its CEO in 1984

and immediately began working out some of the kinks in the business. He

eliminated upper-management jobs in a company he viewed as “top heavy”

and improved the company’s relationship with its customers.

In fact, even today he still likes to do work at the most basic levels,

including direct interaction with customers. It’s part of the reason he

spent a Saturday scanning lift tickets at Big Mountain and, he says,

“the only way to really know what’s going on.”

Under Foley’s leadership, Fidelity also began snapping up small title

companies around the country. By 2000, it was the fourth-largest title

insurance company in the United States. Later that year Foley

engineered the acquisition of Chicago Title, the second-largest title

insurance company in the country. Fidelity then became number one.

It was also in 2000 when Foley first heard of Whitefish while on the phone with a business partner, Burt Sugarman.

“I was complaining about Aspen,” Foley says. He’d owned a home in Aspen

for a few years, and was vacationing there when he confessed to

Sugarman that he didn’t like it anymore. Foley says he’d gotten sick of

Aspen’s “glitziness.”

“You need to come to Whitefish,” Sugarman advised him.

“What’s Whitefish?” Foley asked. “That doesn’t sound inviting.”

Sugarman told him about the local golf courses, the lake and proximity

to Glacier National Park. Foley chartered a plane and flew up the next

morning.

Upon seeing Whitefish, he took in the sights and remembers thinking,

“This is unbelievable. You’ve got a lake, a golf course, a ski resort,

it’s low key… You’ve got to be kidding me.”

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Karl

Schenck, whose father helped found the corporation that operates Big

Mountain, was bought out in a recent reverse stock split that gave

Foley a majority stake in the company. Schenck thinks more could have

been done to retain local shareholders.

He and Sugarman went on a tour of lakefront homes for sale and Foley

found one he liked, making an offer that day. He owned the house 30

days later. Meanwhile, as the deal for his first Whitefish home was

going through, he sold his Aspen property and bought another nine acres

at the north end of the Whitefish Lake. A few years later, he also

purchased Sugarman’s 130-acre estate, also just north of Whitefish

Lake. Sugarman, Foley says, moved to the Yellowstone Club.

Foley now spends part of his year in Whitefish. He works mostly out of

Jacksonville, Fla., where Fidelity is based, and also travels to Santa

Barbara, Calif., where he owns two wineries.

He calls these three locations his “triangle,” and now that he’s more

involved with businesses in Whitefish he plans to alter the balance

between its three points so that most of his time is spent in Western

Montana.

From ski town to company town

Ed Schenck and George Prentice founded WSI in 1947. Early on, the two

men ran out of money trying to start the resort, forcing them to turn

to the citizens of Whitefish to help save their dream by investing in

WSI stock.

Whitefish responded, purchasing enough stock to get Big Mountain off

the ground. A Saturday Evening Post story from 1950 quotes Schenck

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how he and Prentice would respond to people who asked how they managed

to start the resort: “‘It’s easy,’ we tell them… ‘All you have to do is

find a town like Whitefish.’”

In the 1980s, Budget Finance, a Kalispell company run by Richard A.

Dasen, began buying up WSI shares, eventually owning about a quarter of

the corporation. But Dasen infamously ran into problems in February

2004, when he was arrested and eventually jailed for

prostitution-related crimes.

In November 2004, as legal and financial problems mounted for Dasen, he sold Budget’s shares in WSI to Foley.

Several months before Foley bought Dasen’s shares, WSI had done a 1-150

reverse stock split, meaning a shareholder with 150 shares before the

split would have 1 after, a shareholder with 1,500 would have 10, etc.

WSI bought out anyone with fewer than 150 shares. This reduced the

number of shareholders from 500 to 200, allowing WSI to save money on

reporting costs with the Federal Trade Commission.

In May 2005, the company offered $12.5 million in new stock to current

shareholders. A few of the most invested shareholders, including Foley,

purchased it to help raise money for debt-ridden WSI. With that, Foley

raised his stake in the company to 44 percent.

In November 2006, the WSI board, largely controlled by Foley because of

his preponderance of shares, approved another reverse split, this time

1-15.

The purpose of this split, Foley says, was to allow WSI to become an

“S” corporation, which cannot have more than 100 shareholders. As an S

corporation, all profits and losses accrued by WSI are passed on to the

shareholders, who are also responsible for the federal taxes that would

have gone to the business. Foley says WSI is almost guaranteed to lose

money over the next five years, and by creating an S corporation it

helps shareholders at least write off the losses on their personal

taxes.

The split reduced the number of shareholders to just 37, with Foley owning 60 percent of the company.

A benevolent dictator

Karl Schenck is the son of WSI co-founder Ed Schenck, and owned 14

shares before the most recent stock split—one less than he needed to

stay with the company. Being forced out of the company, he says, “Made

me mad. I practically grew up [on Big Mountain]. It’s like my brother

or something, and it’s like they cut it out of my life.”

The Independent spoke with four former WSI shareholders for this story,

but only Ed Schenck agreed to go on the record. The rest asked to speak

off the record for fear of compromising their ongoing involvement with

Big Mountain in capacities beyond owning stock.

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Fred

Jones, CEO of Winter Sports Inc. holds up a drawing of what the

mountain’s new hotel/condo complex will look like. Ground for the new

building will be broken in 2008

Schenck biggest problem with the WSI board is it did not give notice to

shareholders of the most recent split. With some notice, Schenck says,

he could have bought one share from his brother or mother and

maintained a stake in the company. “They could have given us a chance,”

he says.

But WSI CEO Fred Jones says when the 2004 stock split took place, one

shareholder used the information to distribute his stock in a way that

cost WSI an extra $1 million to buy him out.

Still, Schenck says, “I’m sure there was lots of ways they could have kept us in.”

One way was for WSI to delay filing paperwork for the split at the

request of local shareholders who hoped to consolidate their shares

under the name of a single business. That move, Schenck says, would

still allow WSI to become an S corporation. WSI agreed to the delay.

Schenck and other former shareholders say a consultant helped them find

a way to create a single shareholding entity for locals, but according

to Jones, the proposal “wasn’t going to work.” On January 5, the WSI

board decided to go ahead and file the paperwork.

Ultimately, Schenck says, “I think it was probably a good business

decision for the people that own all the stock,” but adds he doesn’t

think it was in Whitefish’s best interests.

However Schenck and others feel about Foley’s stock purchase, nearly

everyone involved with the resort admits it certainly needed Foley’s

infusion of cash.

Jones says before Foley got involved, WSI was heavily in debt, losing

money every year and using cash from real estate sales just to stay

afloat. As a result, no money was being spent to upgrade the mountain’s

infrastructure, making the mountain less attractive to skiers.

“We were losing ground,” Jones says.

Foley says that when he invested in the mountain, “I didn’t really look

at the financials.” He then uses the same line from when he was

scanning tickets: “I just thought it’d be fun.”

It wasn’t until after Foley bought his shares that he learned of WSI’s problems.

“The infrastructure was falling apart, there was no money to buy new

groomers,” he says. “It was completely dysfunctional. Literally, almost

every chair lift was falling apart.”

The problem, Foley surmises, is that Big Mountain, “was run by committee,” before he came in.

“Democracy isn’t always the best thing for a corporation,” he says. “Sometimes you’re better off with a benevolent dictator.”

A little cash doesn’t hurt either. Foley, Jones says, made the largest

investment in WSI’s private sale of shares in May 2005. And by the end

of March, when the final installment from the stock sales is received,

about $25 million will have been raised for the mountain.

Some of that money has already gone toward a new day lodge. In the

past, services on the mountain such as lift ticket sales, rentals, the

ski school and its base area cafeteria were divided between several

buildings, all separated by steep roads and ski runs. At a cost of

$11.5 million, the new day lodge combines all these services in one

35,000-square-foot building.

The biggest boon to skiers and snowboarders are two new chair lifts to

be built this summer at a cost of $5.2 million. The lifts will replace

Chair 2, a smaller chair with access to beginner and intermediate

terrain, and Chair 1, Big Mountain’s chief lift.

In the coming years, there are also plans to build more lodging.

“It’s going to be terrific. These are gigantic investments,” Foley

says. “We’re not going to get any return on this, other than making

this a more attractive place to ski. I don’t know if I’ll make any

money on the investment. I really doubt it.”

But former shareholders doubt Foley’s “just for fun” refrain, noting the value of 800 undeveloped acres on Big Mountain.

“People like that don’t just invest in things for fun,” one former shareholder says.

“In the long run,” Schenck says, in reference to the undeveloped land, “I think they’re going to sell the property.”

Schenck’s logic is thus: Foley acquires a majority of WSI’s shares,

sets up the corporation so that profits accrue directly to the

shareholders, and then limits the number of shareholders so there are

less people to share the money with when the corporation’s most

valuable asset, its land, is sold off.

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Among

the concerns of former shareholders and Whitefish residents is that

Foley will sell off 800 undeveloped acres on Big Mountain, or turn the

resort into another Aspen, Colo., or Yellowstone Club. Foley denies any

such plans.

Foley acknowledges that the 800 acres was part of the reason he saw WSI

as a good investment, but denies that he’s planning to plunder the

corporation.

“We only had one reason to do the reverse split,” he says, “to reduce

the number of shareholders so that we could have a subchapter S

corporation.”

Schenck and other former shareholders also say people come to them

constantly with fears Big Mountain will be turned into the next Aspen

or Yellowstone Club.

One shareholder, who works closely with the local tourism industry,

noted a recent National Geographic-sponsored survey stating most U.S.

tourists are interested in “geotourism,” which National Geographic

defines as, “Tourism that sustains or enhances the geographical

character of a place—its environment, heritage, aesthetics, culture,

and the well-being of its residents.”

In that shareholder’s estimation, this means, “People are interested in

traveling to real places. People don’t want fake. Fake is everywhere;

authentic is hard to find.”

Fake, to this shareholder, equals Aspen and the Yellowstone Club;

authentic equals Whitefish, with its working class residents and

throwback traditions, like the penguins and yetis who populate its

annual winter carnival.

“We’re on the cutting edge of what people want now,” the shareholder

says. Changing over to a more Aspen-style resort, she believes, would

have negative consequences. “That is just repugnant to people here.”

Foley responds to these fears saying: “I left Aspen. I couldn’t stand

it. I wouldn’t let it happen here. That mountain is always going to be

local and low key.”

And he responds to the idea that he might try to create a private resort like Yellowstone Club with a laugh.

“No chance,” he says. “That is glitzy.”

Ultimately, he says he wants Big Mountain to “try to do the big things

well,” and get rid of the small things that people don’t use much. For

instance, Foley questions a few aspects of the mountain’s operations,

such as night skiing, the superpipe and the Thanksgiving Day opening.

He wonders whether enough people really use night skiing to justify it,

whether all the time and resources needed to annually build the

superpipe (which couldn’t be opened until mid-February this year) are

worth it, and whether Thanksgiving Day is too early.

Foley hasn’t made any decisions about these services yet, but he has

turned an eye to the mountain’s operations, searching for

inefficiencies.

Where the proof is

Foley says he’s here for the long haul. Explaining his attraction to

Montana, he says, “People my age remember the way it was in the 1950s.

As a kid you could go anywhere you wanted to go. You felt safe, you

felt secure; it was a very simple life. Montana differs from nearly

every other state because it’s still a simple life here.”

He appears to embrace the simple life while working as a liftee.

Not long after Sara has begun working with her “trainee,” she goes off

to find a new battery for their handheld scanner, leaving Foley to

manage the line himself.

Foley allows the first group of people to go out of turn, and they cut

off another group. He tries to stop the first group and make them come

back, but that only causes more confusion. Another liftee finally comes

over and straightens the mess out, leaving Foley to only shake his head.

“My first responsibility and I screw it up,” he jokes.

Within a few minutes, he’s got things running more smoothly, chatting

with the skiers and snowboarders and joking with the liftees, who have

used his extra help as a chance to take breaks.

“Are you guys taking advantage of me?” he asks Sara, laughing.

If Foley is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing, he’s good at

faking it. He appears natural during this Saturday morning stunt,

comfortable interacting with those who will be most affected by any

changes at the resort. In fact, even his biggest critics are optimistic

that he’s here to build a better community.

Says Schenck, “I have all the hope in the world that that’s what he wants to do.”

 
It's only a name, and from reading the articles, it's for the better because the place was a financial mess before and in danger of closing.
 
I ski Big Mountain every weekend during the winter. The geographical name of the mountain is Big Mountain, they can't go changing what's already printed on maps. It's been Big Mountain for 100 years and it should stay that way for 100 more.
 
You hippies need to settle down, Big Mountain will always be Big Mountain, as concept said earlier the resort name changed not the mountain itself.
 
Man, we got mad when they changed the name of a trail at my mountain.  It was called "Bunny Hop" but it was an intermediate trail and I guess people thought it was the bunny slope and were going down it and getting hurt, so they changed it to "Jack Rabbit."
 
its still in the middle of fucking nowhere, so its gonna be awhile before families change their destination from CO to MT. in the mean time its not like they are closing runs on you so be happy
 
the worstr thing is prices might go up if it gets popular. If that happens just hype up a park then they will put money into it! The glass can either be half full or half empty man
 
yeah, snoqualmie got some new owners and some new names some years back, they started building good parks and put in some high speed quads it was good.
 
This is how it all starts, ive seen it all before. I was there. Yeah, it was called the '80s. Ford was President, Nixon was in the White House and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-a-wall town in what is now called Utah. Some fella from Colorado shows up, starts making so called "improvements", right? Before we knew what hit us, the streets are running with late'. It got so bad that a fella that liked to, you know... smoke a little grass or drink a little ripple. Crow like a rooster, maybe challenge the mayor's son to a gentlemen's duel, was "uncouth, against God." More like bad real estate values. So we had to go!
 
there putting in big candos and jacking up the price, they are also making it so all the chairs take off of one spot so it's going to be packed as shit.
 
Oh, well, if you hate the new name, go ski Turner Mountain instead. OOps, Turner got fucked up, too with that newfangled chairlift replacing the t-bar. GOD! what the hell were they thinking?
 
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