Best Smartphone for skiers???
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Woos
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13898128:VinnieF said:
I shouldn’t say pointless but that FPS isn’t useful for skiing when phones can do 1080p over 120 FPS and 4K 60-120 FPS. Other than SUPER slow motion but I don’t think that’s necessary. Most TVs are 60-120hz and even high end gaming monitors are usually only 144hz.
LilBenjiWop
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Everyone thinks android is a good idea, till they realise that they should have just got an iPhone
nah for real but get the new iPhone SE they just announced. I think it’s $400us and it’s got a dope camera and still has a finger print scanner. Also has the internals of the iPhone 11 so want useless soon. The zoom and wide angle on the full price iPhones 11 are just gimmicks and unless you want that whole screen thing then I reckon the SE is the best option
nah for real but get the new iPhone SE they just announced. I think it’s $400us and it’s got a dope camera and still has a finger print scanner. Also has the internals of the iPhone 11 so want useless soon. The zoom and wide angle on the full price iPhones 11 are just gimmicks and unless you want that whole screen thing then I reckon the SE is the best option
LilBenjiWop
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Wow I didn’t even check the thread date
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LilBenjiWop
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Im not even going to delete this even though I look like a nerd
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IanAvery-Leaf
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14137713:LilBenjiWop said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Adding additional focal lengths to phones is the best thing to happen to phone cameras since putting cameras on phones in the first place. Being stuck with the same old ~28mm length is limiting creatively, you wont find many photographers with just one lens in their kit.
the new SE is exciting people by the $399 price point but if you look below the surface its less value than you think. It’s basically a parts bin phone using most of what goes into an iPhone 8, even the camera. The A13 has a better ISP but the actual sensor/lens are the same. Same exact screen since 2014 that only had a minor bump in colorspace in 2016, although now its downgraded not having 3D Touch. Having an A13 also honestly doesn’t mean much when everything since the A9 has been more than enough speed for 95% of typical use. The “Whole screen thing”, OLED screens for true black battery saving, having a bigger battery (since this thread is about phones for skiers and the SE battery is tiny), multiple cameras are all things I’d argue are way more important and valuable to a person than the A13 chip. People would buy way less android phones if chip performance mattered most since the latest A chip from Apple is always ~18 months ahead of snapdragon performance on release.
One commendable thing I like about the SE is that its actual reasonable size and weight, phones are ballooning and getting way too big and heavy, its a super annoying trend. Having a brick in your pocket isn’t appealing
tsingtaofanatic
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iPhone 6, that's what I've been using.
ScaryDumpTruck
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14137808:IanAvery-Leaf said:
Yeah it's got a 720p LCD panel and 1800mAh battery. The A13 is overkill and the only thing that is actually decent is the camera, which is just an iphone 8 camera. You can get a much better Android phone for the price.
little1337
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I got an Iphone but I find that the battery definitely dies pretty quick while skiing. I know batteries dont do well in the cold but are there phones that do particularly well?
LilBenjiWop
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Totally agree it’s a parts bin
but for real I’ve never seen anyone use the zoom lens, it’s so soft anyway and digital zoom looks better.
wide angle is cool i guess for mountain vista photos and maybe close up follow cam stuff but I don’t think it’s worth dropping $1k for
the a13 chip would be more power efficient helping save battery compared to the 8 and old se. Plus the new chip sets really help with imaging processing. Software is about as important on smart phone cameras as the sensor and glass.
The screen is 720p which unless your holding an inch from your eyes you won’t see the pixels.
also powering less pixels helps with battery saving. I’d say a lower res screen is more important then oled and true black because what percentage of pixels when in use would even be true black.
When you look at simply raw specs Apple always looks over priced. But the essentials on the SE are truely nailed, plus the bonus of iOS and years of updates and all the ease of use of the Apple ecosystem.
totally agree if you got the money I’d go for the 11 pro or something in that class. But is a 1k phone worth it? How much do you need bleeding edge specs? What else could you use 600-800$ on?
Agree with you on adding additional lenses is the best progression besides water proofing. I just believe it’s still got away to go before it’s a deal breaker. Most people just snap pics for memories sake. They see three lenses and think they need it but end up using the one lens 98% of the time. Truely is personal opinion on why you need and want to spend idk. Good points but
but for real I’ve never seen anyone use the zoom lens, it’s so soft anyway and digital zoom looks better.
wide angle is cool i guess for mountain vista photos and maybe close up follow cam stuff but I don’t think it’s worth dropping $1k for
the a13 chip would be more power efficient helping save battery compared to the 8 and old se. Plus the new chip sets really help with imaging processing. Software is about as important on smart phone cameras as the sensor and glass.
The screen is 720p which unless your holding an inch from your eyes you won’t see the pixels.
also powering less pixels helps with battery saving. I’d say a lower res screen is more important then oled and true black because what percentage of pixels when in use would even be true black.
When you look at simply raw specs Apple always looks over priced. But the essentials on the SE are truely nailed, plus the bonus of iOS and years of updates and all the ease of use of the Apple ecosystem.
totally agree if you got the money I’d go for the 11 pro or something in that class. But is a 1k phone worth it? How much do you need bleeding edge specs? What else could you use 600-800$ on?
Agree with you on adding additional lenses is the best progression besides water proofing. I just believe it’s still got away to go before it’s a deal breaker. Most people just snap pics for memories sake. They see three lenses and think they need it but end up using the one lens 98% of the time. Truely is personal opinion on why you need and want to spend idk. Good points but
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LilBenjiWop
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Apple having bad battery life is kinda a myth. Androids are usually so absurdly massive that they can cram a big battery in it, so yeah, 4000mAh will last longer then a 2300mAh battery in theory. Software and how the OS manages apps and tasks running in the back ground is very important. IOS on Apple is incredibly efficient and is the best OS for battery. If you build an iPhone the same size and thickness as a Samsung galaxy s20 it would perform better. Really depends on if you value the more accessible size and thickness of an iPhone over a tablet sized android phone.
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SofaKingSick
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14137903:little1337 said:
this isn't very helpful but my iphone 7 drove me insane with that, it'd be like hardly jacket weather and it'd die. my XS hasn't had that issue at all, for whatever that's worth
14138065:SofaKingSick said:
the truth is, every smartphone will have a shorter battery life with cold weather. The only fact of apple vs android is that iphones shoot the best video and pixel has the best photos, otherwise every phone is the same thing. The days of apple vs google only exist in the form of iphone users complaining to android users that they dont have imessage, please stop doing that.
SofaKingSick
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14138067:eheath said:
oh for sure. but my 7 would die when i walked in the woods on like a 35 degree day and the phone was in my pocket most of the time, so that was particularly bad
OregonDead
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14137903:little1337 said:
Gotta keep it warm under some insulation and close to your body or you are doomed no matter what phone
SofaKingSick
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14138078:eheath said:
well again yes, that's true, but i had many phones before that as well and that one was particularly bad, like i'm not the guy who gets pissy and surprised that cold weather affects batteries, ive been using electronics outdoors my whole life, but this one was a total joke, i'd walk outside on a medium cold day and pull my phone out and it'd die
couldn't tell you if that was normal for iphone 7 or not but it was way worse than any other device i've ever used by a long shot
ScaryDumpTruck
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14138067:eheath said:
S20 Ultra has 108MP, 100x zoom, the 100x zoom isnt super useful but getting clear shots in the 2x-10x zoom range is really useful. it can record at 8k (if you really want crystal clear shots), it can record slow motion at 960 fps and its mics sound a lot better, but iPhones record better? Thats just not true. The 11 pro max can only record at 4k, it can only zoom 10x, it doesn't support HDR10+, and it's slow motion is limited to 240fps.
And on the topic of pixel phones, they no longer take the best photos. A year or two ago they did but now their hardware sucks compared to other brands and they are washed up.
**This post was edited on May 7th 2020 at 5:13:39pm
ScaryDumpTruck
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14138254:eheath said:
How... at least provide some evidence
**This post was edited on May 7th 2020 at 10:03:15pm
14138261:ScaryDumpTruck said:
Look man, this is a tired ass argument that has absolutely no purpose. From what ive seen and read in the last couple years, iphone cameras have the best video, numbers dont matter, were talking about real life use. Either way, it doesnt matter, if you think the s20 is better, thats great, literally changes nothing in my life.
BigbadjerqDad
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I used both flagships this winter for like 45 days each, an iphone 11 pro max and a galaxy s20 ultra. For skiing the iphone's video is so much better especially in ultra wide (better dynamic range, more stable, and it's wider). The zoom on the galaxy is really nice to have and use and the phone is a beast. In terms of video quality iphone wins by a fair amount. Supposedly the iphone 12 will have more stabilization on the ultrawide, hopefully an even more powerful zoom too.
LilBenjiWop
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It’s the truth man iPhone had the best video. 8k doesn’t really mean shit because no one has the screens to even watch 8k footage. More importantly for good video high-bit-rate. Also the colour science and fidelity on the iPhone is best in class. The classic android argument about numbers on paper doesn’t always equal the best in the field
14138261:ScaryDumpTruck said:
ScaryDumpTruck
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14138290:LilBenjiWop said:
A lot of people will argue which takes better video/pictures, and it usually comes out to the fact that both take very good video and pictures, and there isn't really a winner because there are so close. They both usually have slight pros and cons that the user might value more or not value as much. The reason why I like the S20 better is because of the special features that the iPhones don't have.
The.Fish
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14138261:ScaryDumpTruck said:
8k video and other insane specs don't matter if the quality of the image still looks like crap. Last year I switched from an iphone 7 to a galaxy s10 and my video quality took a major hit. The photos come out better than my old iphone because you can download the same camera processing apk that the pixel uses. I love my android so much more than my old iphone though, it isn't even close.
ScaryDumpTruck
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14138887:The.Fish said:
The video quality doesn't look like crap though.. unless you are on Snapchat because Snapchat sucks on androids.
The.Fish
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14138929:ScaryDumpTruck said:
Actually Snapchat fixed the problem for some newer Android models. The video is definitely decent still, but the iPhone looks better for sure. If you showed me a side by side of 10 different clips, I could tell you which were filmed on my iPhone vs Android. I think my android takes better photos after getting Google's apk. My default Samsung camera app takes worse photos than my iPhone too. I absolutely hate apple which is why I switched, but I can't deny the truth and my own experience.
**This post was edited on May 10th 2020 at 2:13:48am
Bended_Toenail
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The SE 2. budget and good battery
