Nadia.
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Since we're going COMPLETELY off topic. This is all I have in my defense.
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But what will you do without maps?!
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But what will you do without maps?!
Best sled (snowmobile) for backcountry (pow)
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MLB
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lol....your just a dumb shit mag reader. The origial summit was the FIRST mountain sled, not the M7. If you want to go farther then that the powder king by AC was their first mountain sled ( look it up, im not wrong). The original summit was a formula platform with an extended track, and different ski geometry. I have own ski doos all my life, and i have NEVER had clutch problems.
I have highmarked everything from the 2000-2002 670, to the 2003-2004 800 HO and NEVER EVER had any clutch problem. YOu just need to know how to run your sled and take care of it. Its easy to say " Well their clutch fucking sucks" if you just send your sled to the shop to get fixed. The REV platform was the FIRST platform to give the rider an ergonomic stance. EVERY other sled followed right after.
Our technology is actually better then yours, we invented the damn thing, and still have the best selling sled in north america. How many snowcross wins? How many hillcross wins? Umm must be doing something right. Ohh and the summit was the first sled to have a track go over 150 from the factory.
BTW the only thing about AC that is american is their chasis, nothing else. Their engine is suzuki. Now the M7 is based off of an OLD OLD OLD ass platform ( the ZR platform). Its twice as old as the rev, not to mention three times as fragile.
LOL and i love the doctors statement......i love how you rate people even though every doctor is different at their job. How about this, how much is it going to cost you to get a broken arm fixed at your local hospital? Here in canada, its free for me. I rather like the fact that if im being rushed into an emergency room they will work on me no matter what, where as in the states you don't have an HMO, you get thrown out on to the streets.
Canada, home of the first snowmobile, and the best one. Home of basketball, hockey, and apple pie ( thats right apple pie was invented in canada). The first patent for the light bulb was invented in canada. Do you want me to keep going ? No offence but OUR TECHNOLOGY is better in every way /shape/form. Now go read another mag.
I have highmarked everything from the 2000-2002 670, to the 2003-2004 800 HO and NEVER EVER had any clutch problem. YOu just need to know how to run your sled and take care of it. Its easy to say " Well their clutch fucking sucks" if you just send your sled to the shop to get fixed. The REV platform was the FIRST platform to give the rider an ergonomic stance. EVERY other sled followed right after.
Our technology is actually better then yours, we invented the damn thing, and still have the best selling sled in north america. How many snowcross wins? How many hillcross wins? Umm must be doing something right. Ohh and the summit was the first sled to have a track go over 150 from the factory.
BTW the only thing about AC that is american is their chasis, nothing else. Their engine is suzuki. Now the M7 is based off of an OLD OLD OLD ass platform ( the ZR platform). Its twice as old as the rev, not to mention three times as fragile.
LOL and i love the doctors statement......i love how you rate people even though every doctor is different at their job. How about this, how much is it going to cost you to get a broken arm fixed at your local hospital? Here in canada, its free for me. I rather like the fact that if im being rushed into an emergency room they will work on me no matter what, where as in the states you don't have an HMO, you get thrown out on to the streets.
Canada, home of the first snowmobile, and the best one. Home of basketball, hockey, and apple pie ( thats right apple pie was invented in canada). The first patent for the light bulb was invented in canada. Do you want me to keep going ? No offence but OUR TECHNOLOGY is better in every way /shape/form. Now go read another mag.
SNOWMOWER
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the m7 is nothing like the zr platform------ have u ever ridden the two????? what the fuck our u talking about----- u may have free health care but that creates problems... LIke not seeing the doctors or specialist you want to see. Long waits and shitttttttt............ + the really goods ones come over here to make that moneyyyyyyyy!!!!!.....
Anyways
just look at the numbers sir------ SKI DOO Fucked up last year--- there clutches were more sensitive then a red haired step child is to the sun..... I have had friends who pamper there machines (ski doo) and still have to fuck with there clutch after going up a hill and then having to do it again 2 mins later
Don't deny yourself reliability and buy an AC
and yes very few things are made by americans these days, but that is because we our too busy watching nascar and pissing on electric fences............. Those suzki motors our damn good- as our the Rotax---- But as far as the whole pizza goes there is no question...........
hey look if i was from canada i would rep the shit out of ski doo too..... I don't blame you.......... What's home if you can't hold down the court???
Anyways
just look at the numbers sir------ SKI DOO Fucked up last year--- there clutches were more sensitive then a red haired step child is to the sun..... I have had friends who pamper there machines (ski doo) and still have to fuck with there clutch after going up a hill and then having to do it again 2 mins later
Don't deny yourself reliability and buy an AC
and yes very few things are made by americans these days, but that is because we our too busy watching nascar and pissing on electric fences............. Those suzki motors our damn good- as our the Rotax---- But as far as the whole pizza goes there is no question...........
hey look if i was from canada i would rep the shit out of ski doo too..... I don't blame you.......... What's home if you can't hold down the court???
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actually they are exactly the same, but the M7 has a longer track. The same SLA suspention, same front chasis, same steering angles, same front suspention travel...i could go on but i think you get the point. The only difference between the two is the track design.
Ive seen more AC sleds broken on the side of trails/powder pits/ ditches/fields/hills then any other sled out there. I don't trust suzuki engines for shit since i have no idea where they do their cold wether testing. Ohh and i really really really don't believe you about the ski-doos overheating. Especailly the v-twins, the EFI engines, or the liquid cool engines.
AC does have some great ideas like their ethanol mode on the firecats, their turbo 4 stroke, and their looks ( they do look sick). But i would never trust one in a million years.
Ive ridden everything from ski-doo summit X, their 800 HO, the pre-rev summits, MXZ, and MACH Z. Ive also ridden polaris RMK 900, the Fusion 900, XC 700, Classic 600, yamaha mountain max, mountain viper, RX-1. Ski doo just have it right, they know what a sledneck wants in his snowmobile on the trail/mountain/ditch/etc.
The true answer to this thread is to buy a sled, any sled and pump it up with aftermarket parts. Yamaha has the most after market parts out there, and their viper is a prime platform if you cut a few pounds off of it.
Ive seen more AC sleds broken on the side of trails/powder pits/ ditches/fields/hills then any other sled out there. I don't trust suzuki engines for shit since i have no idea where they do their cold wether testing. Ohh and i really really really don't believe you about the ski-doos overheating. Especailly the v-twins, the EFI engines, or the liquid cool engines.
AC does have some great ideas like their ethanol mode on the firecats, their turbo 4 stroke, and their looks ( they do look sick). But i would never trust one in a million years.
Ive ridden everything from ski-doo summit X, their 800 HO, the pre-rev summits, MXZ, and MACH Z. Ive also ridden polaris RMK 900, the Fusion 900, XC 700, Classic 600, yamaha mountain max, mountain viper, RX-1. Ski doo just have it right, they know what a sledneck wants in his snowmobile on the trail/mountain/ditch/etc.
The true answer to this thread is to buy a sled, any sled and pump it up with aftermarket parts. Yamaha has the most after market parts out there, and their viper is a prime platform if you cut a few pounds off of it.
SNOWMOWER
Member
AC tests there shit on a track at the factory.... They put wheels on the skis... They pound the shit out of em in hot weather w/ no snow...... That is how u get a good running sled.....Keeping them cool is always the problem, its not getting them hot. Ski doo is rad they just need to do some refinements.... They kind of remind me of FORDs
A: expensive
and
B: finicky
The AC is just a better buy and who else puts out a 4 year warranty?????????? : O ?
A: expensive
and
B: finicky
The AC is just a better buy and who else puts out a 4 year warranty?????????? : O ?
You'll care when you can't get out of guardsmans pass this winter...
And for the Ski Doo/M series argument. I believe it to be true that the rev was the first rider forward sled. I have no idea about the ZR/M series chassis comparison. Might be true.
I've yet to have problems with my M series sleds though, and the only summit I ever owned had mass problems and all my sledding 'brah's' on Doo's certainly have problems with em. I've heard more stories and seen more problems with Ski Doo's than any other sled, maybe in part that there are way more of them than any other, but thats that.
To Our canadian Ski doo Friend. I don't doubt that you have had no problems with Doo clutching. But I also don't doubt that you know exactly how to tune your clutch on the fly. I can't imagine thats something our average Newschoolers.com associate is going to be very competent at. I'd say I've got some work to do on mine since I haven't done any, but truth be that my shits hittin and holdin 8100 from the factory and thats just dandy with me.
Bottom line. Sleds have problems. Except for Phazers...their only problems is that they won't go anywhere ski worthy. talk about a glorified midwest boondoggle machine...
And for the Ski Doo/M series argument. I believe it to be true that the rev was the first rider forward sled. I have no idea about the ZR/M series chassis comparison. Might be true.
I've yet to have problems with my M series sleds though, and the only summit I ever owned had mass problems and all my sledding 'brah's' on Doo's certainly have problems with em. I've heard more stories and seen more problems with Ski Doo's than any other sled, maybe in part that there are way more of them than any other, but thats that.
To Our canadian Ski doo Friend. I don't doubt that you have had no problems with Doo clutching. But I also don't doubt that you know exactly how to tune your clutch on the fly. I can't imagine thats something our average Newschoolers.com associate is going to be very competent at. I'd say I've got some work to do on mine since I haven't done any, but truth be that my shits hittin and holdin 8100 from the factory and thats just dandy with me.
Bottom line. Sleds have problems. Except for Phazers...their only problems is that they won't go anywhere ski worthy. talk about a glorified midwest boondoggle machine...
Im not trying to start a turf war by anymeans here, but I dunno how you can say AC's are beat. Our stock 700's will climb with rev 800r's all day. I know your a Ski-Doo'er Ian and thats cool. Ski Doo'ers have ridiculous brand loyalty, but truth be that the 05-up M sleds are right there with the Rev's.
Its all good though cuz its really all about gettin those freshies...bless up!
Its all good though cuz its really all about gettin those freshies...bless up!
SNOWMOWER
Member
what the fuck sled won the X games????? AC
what the fuck sled won the worlds at jackson????? AC
what kind of sled does the dude who one that red bull thing ride? AC
its like you people are trying to dawg chevy or something------
get over it........
IF u got 20,000 grand go for an 4 stroke apex and pimp ur ride............
what the fuck sled won the worlds at jackson????? AC
what kind of sled does the dude who one that red bull thing ride? AC
its like you people are trying to dawg chevy or something------
get over it........
IF u got 20,000 grand go for an 4 stroke apex and pimp ur ride............
Nadia.
Active member
Not everyone has 20,000$ to "pimp" a sled. I was lucky to find mine for 8000$(07 skidoo summit 800 144 track with 1500 km, new shocks, new clutch, new skis, 1 more year warranty.) and it was still 2,000$ more than I originally wanted to spend. You know, some of us actually have to WORK to pay for our toys.
617freeskier
Member
get a yamaha phazer fx. they ride like fucking dirtbikes.
Nadia.
Active member
Actually the Canadian dollar is almost on-par with the American. Most places in Whistler take US$ on par with CND$
It might have something to do with your country carpet bombing everyone that *might* have WMD's.
If you even bothered to read his previous threads he was in fact talking about dropping 20+ grand on a sled.
It helps to read all the posts in a thread before talking directly out of your ass.
Considering that 07 summit 800s were like 14,000+ new last year, most of them around here are selling for 9,500-10,000. 8000$ was a fairly decent deal. Canadian taxes and import rates and a bunch of other things factor in for sled purchasing. Its not exactly the same as in the states.
I've love to know where exactly you managed to find 07 summit 800s for 6800. Less than half of what they retailed new last year.
It might have something to do with your country carpet bombing everyone that *might* have WMD's.
If you even bothered to read his previous threads he was in fact talking about dropping 20+ grand on a sled.
It helps to read all the posts in a thread before talking directly out of your ass.
Considering that 07 summit 800s were like 14,000+ new last year, most of them around here are selling for 9,500-10,000. 8000$ was a fairly decent deal. Canadian taxes and import rates and a bunch of other things factor in for sled purchasing. Its not exactly the same as in the states.
I've love to know where exactly you managed to find 07 summit 800s for 6800. Less than half of what they retailed new last year.
Fish_Sandwich.
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2 strokes 4 lyfe
2 stroke jetskis, 2 stroke ATV's, and 2 stroke dirtbikes
although some of the new 4 strokes are getting better. At least in terms of jetskis. Still no 4 stroke mass produced standup though, which is all that really matters.
2 stroke jetskis, 2 stroke ATV's, and 2 stroke dirtbikes
although some of the new 4 strokes are getting better. At least in terms of jetskis. Still no 4 stroke mass produced standup though, which is all that really matters.
Trust me I wasn't talking out of my ass. He was talking about 20k yami turbo sleds, and then responded to the beater sleds post. Neither of us even ride mod sleds. And there are REV 800r's all over utah in that price range...14k Im pretty sure all the rev 800's started at 10,500 here in the states bro...You can find em on snowest, in the classifieds. Ive even found 07 800r 159xrs for what you paid.
My point was not originally to spite you but to provide price based context for anyone else reading the thread. I suppose I'll have to work on not talking out of my ass before reading...eh
My point was not originally to spite you but to provide price based context for anyone else reading the thread. I suppose I'll have to work on not talking out of my ass before reading...eh