yea im not sure how you get "by far" in that. As Ryan said, rails and boxes are much better, and when they actually cut the pipe, it is usually better (but for fucks sake they didnt open it until late January. snowmaking, predug....!!!!). Jumps are usually much better at stevens, although the jumps at snoqualmie can be pretty good at times. Post season they are beautiful. Its a shame they dont do anything like that during the season, however.