Best Jibby Fat Ski?

I have been skiing a salomon q lab and am looking for a more playful fatter ski. I am getting into spinning and can't decide on a ski. I want a ski that is solid underfoot and can handle less than ideal snow. I ski at snowbird and alta. Thanks
 
Just picked up a pair of 16/17 bibbys fresh from reno last week. I went with bibbys because of the moment PB&J's that I also have. The PB&J's are a stiffer ski (in my opinion) and I believe they are made from the same kinds of wood, you should check it out.
 
I've been looking at the candide 4.0 16/17 version, atomic bentchetler, line mordecai, and k2 shreditors a lot. Any opinions about those skis? thanks
 
13712038:nick_candage said:
I've been looking at the candide 4.0 16/17 version, atomic bentchetler, line mordecai, and k2 shreditors a lot. Any opinions about those skis? thanks

Candide would be the best bet for a stiffer ski out of those choices for sure
 
Shreditor 112s are sick, but soft. They can handle speed pretty well, BUT if you get backseat or too far forward, you will wash them out. Definitely my favorite "jibby fat ski" tho, it inspires so much confidence to try new tricks. Its an extremely good all mountain ski if you have good balance, just dial the speed back from "10" to about "7".

Line Mordecai is significantly stiffer, better for crud, but still a jib ski. This ski intrigues me, I will most likely go with it next year as a jib ski, now that shreditor 112s are discontinued.

Kartel 116 will be a good option too. I had the jeffrey 114 last year, and it was great, but not as jibby as the shreditors. they didnt make me want to try new tricks like the shreditors do. however they were much better for charging and ralling through crud, and had better float (all on3p float amazingly). this would be a great option if you already know how to jib well, and need to take it to the next level.

Bibbys are too dead/damp feeling to be a "jib ski", but they can definitely jib if you have strong legs. I have owned them (190cm) and I thought of them as more of a resort powder charger that can trick a bit easier than the rest of that category... The jeffrey 114 or kartel 116 is definitely a better all around ski than the bibby, however the bibby is an amazing pow ski on par with the billy goat, just a different feel.

The Billy Goats are surfy, smeary (smurfy?) and pivoty, but not a "jib ski". Its a powder specific profile, thats chargey and smurfy at the same time, and does a great job in all mountain conditions if you have strong legs. It is directional and heavy, and even though its one of my favorite skis ever, I would not recommend it in this situation. Maybe if you only jib in a directional fashion (IE, only shiftys, grabs, 360s, 720s, and dont ski switch ever), then it could work, but its still heavy. Like this bibby, its in the Resort Powder Charger category.
 
13712115:GlacierGoat said:
Shreditor 112s are sick, but soft. They can handle speed pretty well, BUT if you get backseat or too far forward, you will wash them out. Definitely my favorite "jibby fat ski" tho, it inspires so much confidence to try new tricks. Its an extremely good all mountain ski if you have good balance, just dial the speed back from "10" to about "7".

Line Mordecai is significantly stiffer, better for crud, but still a jib ski. This ski intrigues me, I will most likely go with it next year as a jib ski, now that shreditor 112s are discontinued.

Kartel 116 will be a good option too. I had the jeffrey 114 last year, and it was great, but not as jibby as the shreditors. they didnt make me want to try new tricks like the shreditors do. however they were much better for charging and ralling through crud, and had better float (all on3p float amazingly). this would be a great option if you already know how to jib well, and need to take it to the next level.

Bibbys are too dead/damp feeling to be a "jib ski", but they can definitely jib if you have strong legs. I have owned them (190cm) and I thought of them as more of a resort powder charger that can trick a bit easier than the rest of that category... The jeffrey 114 or kartel 116 is definitely a better all around ski than the bibby, however the bibby is an amazing pow ski on par with the billy goat, just a different feel.

The Billy Goats are surfy, smeary (smurfy?) and pivoty, but not a "jib ski". Its a powder specific profile, thats chargey and smurfy at the same time, and does a great job in all mountain conditions if you have strong legs. It is directional and heavy, and even though its one of my favorite skis ever, I would not recommend it in this situation. Maybe if you only jib in a directional fashion (IE, only shiftys, grabs, 360s, 720s, and dont ski switch ever), then it could work, but its still heavy. Like this bibby, its in the Resort Powder Charger category.

Thanks a ton this helps a lot. I've pretty much narrowed it down to the shreditors, candide 4.0 and maybe the mordecai.
 
Never skied them before but the KF Layzerblades look like super fun jibby pow skis. They're 112 underfoot, not sure on the stiffness.

Also revision just came out with a jibby pow ski this season called the blink that is supposedly on the soft side of things.

Some people love JJ's because they aren't too stiff and have a short turn radius but I personally find them to be a far too limiting ski because of their squirreliness. But they might be up your alley for a jibby pow ski.

Surface outsider and balance are also very fun skis. They're both on the stiffer side but the abrupt rocker work's well with them and they're both super fun skis that can charge like no other and be very playful when you want.

You listed benchetlers too which sound just about perfect for what you want. From what I've seen, shreditors are on the super soft side so don't plan on charging lines or dropping big cliffs because the tails simply aren't stiff enough to handle it.
 
With the 4.0s, they're pretty stiff. Definitely hard charging and sick in pow but a little stiff for a jib ski. Maybe check out the chapter 116 from faction as its both cheaper and a little softer but still fat
 
+1 for layzrbladz. They're definitely Jibby and super fun, can mob in pow and crud, Skis well switch. They're Symetrical and I mounted mine at -1, and it's perfect for everything. Can't even tell I'm at -1. Grab a pair. You won't be dissapointed
 
No input myself on the outsider or balance but I have a buddy who skis the old balance/new life. He rips the shit out of those bad boys. They are not soft that's forsure but he can butter and spin those things like a mofo. I can speak for the Pettitor the 120 underfoot model, though and I love that ski. Yes it is noodley in the tip and tail but it stiffens up quite significantly underfoot so aslong as you are centred and don't mount them super traditionally you can stomp some good sized cliffs. Not light though that's forsure but I wouldn't call them bricks either, they are still super spin able and stupidly easy to butter due to the fact they have soft tips and tails. It's almost like they have a hing point and once you get past it they flex like linguine. The other ski that's super fun a playful is the old bacon not super fat at only 108 but definitely the most fun I have been on as far as being able to dick around and do stupid things on and get away with it (they are pretty dam forgiving) if you can find a pair.
 
13713764:robinthehood said:
I had a pair few years back. I loved this ski. Stiff enough to charge hard and yet really playful and lively. The only complain I had was the size, wished they could come in a 193 ish length but I'm a taller dude. The rocker-camber profile works great.

Thanks robinthehood, I'm having issues with the sizing too. I am between sizes. My size is a 182ish ski. I am ar I was wondering if I would overpower the 177 and it would be squirrely at speed and if the 187 would be hard to spin since I am new to spinning. Any opinions on sizing would be appreciated.
 
13713753:nick_candage said:
Does anyone have any opinions on the 4frnt YLE? Thanks

13713786:nick_candage said:
Thanks robinthehood, I'm having issues with the sizing too. I am between sizes. My size is a 182ish ski. I am ar I was wondering if I would overpower the 177 and it would be squirrely at speed and if the 187 would be hard to spin since I am new to spinning. Any opinions on sizing would be appreciated.

I had the YLEs. Super fun and chargy. I got the Jeffrey 114 and like them more but the YLe is a close second.

And yeah sizing is weird. 4frnt sizes small so the 177 is like a 175 and 187 is like 185. I need something that is 177 true but since they're fat you can go a little smaller
 
13713834:.lencon said:
I had the YLEs. Super fun and chargy. I got the Jeffrey 114 and like them more but the YLe is a close second.

And yeah sizing is weird. 4frnt sizes small so the 177 is like a 175 and 187 is like 185. I need something that is 177 true but since they're fat you can go a little smaller

Thanks lencon, I didn't they ran small. How is the swing weight on the YLEs? I'll probably go for the 187.
 
13713848:nick_candage said:
Thanks lencon, I didn't they ran small. How is the swing weight on the YLEs? I'll probably go for the 187.

pretty good. lighter ski so swings well. mount point is -2.5 from center so swings evenly. Pretty fat ski in the tips tho, but not bad. I could do 3s and lincolns on them consistently just fine
 
What's the deal with touring on jibby, center mounted, fat skis? any issues?

I have 189 shreditor 112s, and am debating putting beast 14s on them, even though they lost the tip/tail skin attachments for 2016 models...
 
13713896:DirtyDruid said:
What's the deal with touring on jibby, center mounted, fat skis? any issues?

I have 189 shreditor 112s, and am debating putting beast 14s on them, even though they lost the tip/tail skin attachments for 2016 models...

that setup would slay. I wouldn't mount dead center tho
 
It would be hard to go any further back. This ski has no tail, and Im 210lbs. Great ski though, just stay centered.
 
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