Best Freestyle boots?

SpliffyJ

SpliffyJ

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I was wondering what the best freestyle boots are. I know full tilts are great, but are they one of the best?
 
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It doesn't matter if the boots are for freestyle or not, all that matters is that they really fit you properly and that you go to a boot fitter, so he can get you the right boot. Otherwise if you have the wrong size (usually to big), then you are going to be in a lot of pain weather or not it is a freestyle orientated boot.

JUST SEE A BOOTFITTER, please.
 
I go up 4 sizes from my shoe size, that way I save time with the buckling and unbuckling. I can just pull my foot clean out. Well worth it, I'd recommend you do the same.
 
Yes good boots are necessary, but the op is asking what the best freestyle boots are. Most kids on NS will probably full tilts. In my opinion SPK's are the best
 
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Obviously full tilt hot dogger's. Full tilt is the best and Tom Wallisch is the best so obviously these are the best boots!
 
^This, well it's better to actually get fitted, spk's seem to be a decent "catch all" fit that does the trick for most people. I find the high cuff height really helps for shin bang.
 
10853995:nagelthebagel said:
It doesn't matter if the boots are for freestyle or not, all that matters is that they really fit you properly and that you go to a boot fitter, so he can get you the right boot. Otherwise if you have the wrong size (usually to big), then you are going to be in a lot of pain weather or not it is a freestyle orientated boot.

JUST SEE A BOOTFITTER, please.
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Ok that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
 
13656313:East_Coaster said:
Ok that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
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nice going replying to 4 yr old thread
 
13656313:East_Coaster said:
Ok that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
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You made no sense man. The fact that you ski on an 80 flex boot just tells everyone here what a joke you are. No serious skier skis on something that soft.

And a lot of pros use racing boots with more shock in the heel. More or less same design but with a bit more padding and what not. Racing boots are the best boots on the market. Often the top freeride boots are virtually the same with a slight flex change or shock absorption added or something like that. Try charging hard on an 80 flex boot on any serious terrain and you would have no control.
 
13656313:East_Coaster said:
Ok that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
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Dude what is with you and boots lol
 
13656713:KravtZ said:
You made no sense man. The fact that you ski on an 80 flex boot just tells everyone here what a joke you are. No serious skier skis on something that soft.

And a lot of pros use racing boots with more shock in the heel. More or less same design but with a bit more padding and what not. Racing boots are the best boots on the market. Often the top freeride boots are virtually the same with a slight flex change or shock absorption added or something like that. Try charging hard on an 80 flex boot on any serious terrain and you would have no control.
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Ok I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
 
13656713:KravtZ said:
You made no sense man. The fact that you ski on an 80 flex boot just tells everyone here what a joke you are. No serious skier skis on something that soft.

And a lot of pros use racing boots with more shock in the heel. More or less same design but with a bit more padding and what not. Racing boots are the best boots on the market. Often the top freeride boots are virtually the same with a slight flex change or shock absorption added or something like that. Try charging hard on an 80 flex boot on any serious terrain and you would have no control.
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So wallisch rides a pair of racing boots? Haha you are a joke dude are you stupid. Racing boots are the stiffest on the market no freestyle skier rides any boot like a racing boot. For one, most racing boots are at a 120 flex or around there so they can grip the snow and have a tighter turning radius. If anything, the closest to a freestyle boot is a touring boot which is what I rode before, a pair of Lange boots at a 90 flex. I really wasn't going to be an ass before, but you insist you know about boots but think an 80 flex is the worst thing in the world.
 
13663179:East_Coaster said:
Ok I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
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SPKs were always sub-100 flex because of the price point. That is why and every single athlete complained that they were too soft. Bottom line, the right flex is the one that you need. If that happens to be 80, it just means you are super light and/or not that strong. If you are heavy and/or strong, you will need a stiffer boot. Look at any of the Atomic freeski athletes for proof- Keefer rides a race-room Redster World Cup 130 with a foam liner, Jossi rides a Redster Pro 130, LSM rides the Hawx Ultra 130, Gus rides the Hawx Prime 130, and the list goes on and on. This does not mean you need stiff boots in order to ski well, but it does mean that stiff boots are not going cause problems if they are the thing you need.

13663184:East_Coaster said:
So wallisch rides a pair of racing boots? Haha you are a joke dude are you stupid.
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You do know that the Full Tilt design is a race boot from the 1980's, right?
 
13663179:East_Coaster said:
Ok I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
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SPKs were always sub-100 flex because of the price point. That is why and every single athlete complained that they were too soft. Bottom line, the right flex is the one that you need. If that happens to be 80, it just means you are super light and/or not that strong. If you are heavy and/or strong, you will need a stiffer boot. Look at any of the Atomic freeski athletes for proof- Keefer rides a race-room Redster World Cup 130 with a foam liner, Jossi rides a Redster Pro 130, LSM rides the Hawx Ultra 130, Gus rides the Hawx Prime 130, and the list goes on and on. This does not mean you need stiff boots in order to ski well, but it does mean that stiff boots are not going cause problems if they are the thing you need.

13663184:East_Coaster said:
So wallisch rides a pair of racing boots? Haha you are a joke dude are you stupid.
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You do know that the Full Tilt design is a race boot from the 1980's, right?
 
13663179:East_Coaster said:
Ok I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
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Im sorry man..you just sound like an idiot on a rant. SPKs were never and still aren't a good boot. They were cheap and looked cool so people would buy them. As onenerdykid pointed out...most pros are on some form of a 120-130 flex boot.
 
But these are pros guys. You're talking about a $500 pro model boot. I'm talking about a good starter boot. The problem with spks is the shin bang. Yes the flex is too little but when you are starting up, it's a ok boot.
 
13663371:East_Coaster said:
The problem with spks is the shin bang.
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Shin bang is a product of two things.

1.) Poor technique.

2.) A boot that is not fit properly. Whether it be length, width, volume, or flex, if a boot is not fit properly, it can cause shin bang.

Please stop posting about topics you do not understand.
 
13663371:East_Coaster said:
But these are pros guys. You're talking about a $500 pro model boot. I'm talking about a good starter boot. The problem with spks is the shin bang. Yes the flex is too little but when you are starting up, it's a ok boot.
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lol whatever man...im sure you're one of those "park rats" who isn't even that good to start with who spends all day in the park and scoffs at racers too because "they're dicks". I bet your one of those idiots who focuses so much on throwing a crappy 5 and can barely carve a proper turn or ski with any remote form of good technique or form
 
13663371:East_Coaster said:
But these are pros guys. You're talking about a $500 pro model boot. I'm talking about a good starter boot. The problem with spks is the shin bang. Yes the flex is too little but when you are starting up, it's a ok boot.
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There is really no such thing as a "starting up" boot because boots don't know your skiing ability. All they know is the force(s) that is acting upon them. Take for example 2 freestyle skiers who are both starting the sport, new to skiing. One weighs 100 pounds, the other weighs 200 pounds. There is no way the same "starting up" boot will work for both of them. The 200 pound skier will need a boot with a flex of 120 or 130 simply because he will crush a softer boot and he will struggle to control the ski properly because the boot can't support him.

You pick your ski based on how aggressive of a skier you are and where on the mountain you want to go skiing. You pick your boot based on your subjective biomechanic needs and enjoy your day.

Concerning shin bang, it's already been covered above- it's the result of bad technique and/or a poorly fitting ski boot. It is not a problem that is related to a style of boot or using a race boot in the park or a park boot in powder.
 
13663443:KravtZ said:
lol whatever man...im sure you're one of those "park rats" who isn't even that good to start with who spends all day in the park and scoffs at racers too because "they're dicks". I bet your one of those idiots who focuses so much on throwing a crappy 5 and can barely carve a proper turn or ski with any remote form of good technique or form
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Are you kidding me? No I'm not actually because I spend my winters Nordic skiing with my ski team. I have terrible form but have been skiing since I was 3. You know nothing about me and you guys are ridiculous if you think there isn't a "starting boot". Not everyone can pull $500 out of there ass. I work at a ski area and still can't get a good pair of boots. It's expensive once you don't have mommy and daddy paying for you. Sorry, but truth hurts. Yes full tilts are great, but expensive as hell. Not every parent wants to drop $500 for a pair of boots when they don't know if their kids will continue skiing for a long time.
 
13663427:Caucasian_Asian said:
Shin bang is a product of two things.

1.) Poor technique.

2.) A boot that is not fit properly. Whether it be length, width, volume, or flex, if a boot is not fit properly, it can cause shin bang.

Please stop posting about topics you do not understand.
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It literally is the boots. It's not technique, what are you talking about? It's because spks are built for beginners in park, and not kids who slay. Now that I've progressed, I'm doing bigger tricks, going steeper and deeper. It probably was the same for you when you got a better built boot. The liners on these boots wear out quick causing you to move more near the shin causing shinbang. The never really improved this because these boots were never meant to be ridden for more than 2 years, they really are just starter boots.
 
13664308:East_Coaster said:
Are you kidding me? No I'm not actually because I spend my winters Nordic skiing with my ski team. I have terrible form but have been skiing since I was 3. You know nothing about me and you guys are ridiculous if you think there isn't a "starting boot". Not everyone can pull $500 out of there ass. I work at a ski area and still can't get a good pair of boots. It's expensive once you don't have mommy and daddy paying for you. Sorry, but truth hurts. Yes full tilts are great, but expensive as hell. Not every parent wants to drop $500 for a pair of boots when they don't know if their kids will continue skiing for a long time.
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dude you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about lol.

it is quite funny actually.
 
13663535:onenerdykid said:
There is really no such thing as a "starting up" boot because boots don't know your skiing ability. All they know is the force(s) that is acting upon them. Take for example 2 freestyle skiers who are both starting the sport, new to skiing. One weighs 100 pounds, the other weighs 200 pounds. There is no way the same "starting up" boot will work for both of them. The 200 pound skier will need a boot with a flex of 120 or 130 simply because he will crush a softer boot and he will struggle to control the ski properly because the boot can't support him.

You pick your ski based on how aggressive of a skier you are and where on the mountain you want to go skiing. You pick your boot based on your subjective biomechanic needs and enjoy your day.

Concerning shin bang, it's already been covered above- it's the result of bad technique and/or a poorly fitting ski boot. It is not a problem that is related to a style of boot or using a race boot in the park or a park boot in powder.
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I know what you mean and i know you pick boot flex on your ability but I don't see weight as being the biggest issue. A flex of say 120 puts your weight over your skis more than an 80. Now hopefully you all know why this can be a good and bad thing. The good thing is your more forward and able to control skis in hardpack and icy conditions. This boot just doesn't perform the same way in powder. You can't get as far back on your tails as you would with a softer flex. It's just simple physics. I agree that a 120 flex is better though in most cases because like everyone's pointed out is the shin bang. But there's a median to the flex and a little bit around. For instance, some people may go with a 110 or a 130 opposed to a 130 due to their ability. Ski flexes aren't set in stone.
 
13664329:East_Coaster said:
But I do, tell me exactly where I'm wrong then. Please elaborate.
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well ill just start with one. Most of the time with freeride boots, (the ones you said are much better in the park than race boots) they just throw a warmer liner and a rubber replaceable boot board on them. So saying race boots are bad for park and freeride boots are okay is completely wrong. Saying race boots cause shin bang from landing on the aggressive stance is also very wrong. The actual problem here is not going to be shin bang. More of just a fitting issue due to your boots being too stiff and unable to be flexed. Shin bang is caused from poor fitting boots and bad technique. You should be landing with shins in the tongue.
 
13664339:Profahoben_212 said:
well ill just start with one. Most of the time with freeride boots, (the ones you said are much better in the park than race boots) they just throw a warmer liner and a rubber replaceable boot board on them. So saying race boots are bad for park and freeride boots are okay is completely wrong. Saying race boots cause shin bang from landing on the aggressive stance is also very wrong. The actual problem here is not going to be shin bang. More of just a fitting issue due to your boots being too stiff and unable to be flexed. Shin bang is caused from poor fitting boots and bad technique. You should be landing with shins in the tongue.
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Shins are in the tongue but race boots are more stiff dude. You can't be serious? There is a difference between race boots and freeride boots. Have you tried a pair of race boots then freeride? For one, there's weight and then there's stiffness. So boots are based of other boots. That doesn't mean they're an exact replica of that boot.
 
13664351:East_Coaster said:
Shins are in the tongue but race boots are more stiff dude. You can't be serious? There is a difference between race boots and freeride boots. Have you tried a pair of race boots then freeride? For one, there's weight and then there's stiffness. So boots are based of other boots. That doesn't mean they're an exact replica of that boot.
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So, you are saying the Nordica Doberman 130 has a different flex than my GPX 130? yeah no. The gpx has a different liner and rubber boot boards. Pretty much the only difference. Miiight havea slightly wider ankle area.

Saying that all race boots flex like a 2x4? Now you cant be serious dude. They make all sorts of flexes of race boots. Even 80 flex like your precious SPK!!!!

Im sorry that you cant flex a 130 boot man, but you should try to do some research. You need it.
 
13664351:East_Coaster said:
Shins are in the tongue but race boots are more stiff dude. You can't be serious? There is a difference between race boots and freeride boots. Have you tried a pair of race boots then freeride? For one, there's weight and then there's stiffness. So boots are based of other boots. That doesn't mean they're an exact replica of that boot.
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You haven't looked at very many race boots then. You can buy a 80 flex race boot. And it's the same boot as the 150 flex, with the exception of flex.

Where did you learn all of this incorrect knowledge?
 
13664360:Profahoben_212 said:
So, you are saying the Nordica Doberman 130 has a different flex than my GPX 130? yeah no. The gpx has a different liner and rubber boot boards. Pretty much the only difference. Miiight havea slightly wider ankle area.

Saying that all race boots flex like a 2x4? Now you cant be serious dude. They make all sorts of flexes of race boots. Even 80 flex like your precious SPK!!!!

Im sorry that you cant flex a 130 boot man, but you should try to do some research. You need it.
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I'm saying these boots feel different entirely. The flex is the same, but the boots still feel different. Racing boots are always stiffer it's just how they're made. They're also heavier.
 
13664401:Caucasian_Asian said:
You haven't looked at very many race boots then. You can buy a 80 flex race boot. And it's the same boot as the 150 flex, with the exception of flex.

Where did you learn all of this incorrect knowledge?
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I never said you couldn't buy an 80 flex race boot, I simply said they have a totally different feel than a freeride boot. They're heavier than free rides and they're like this for a reason. They're meant for gripping hardpack and ice better than a freeride. This is the same with a racing boot and freestyle boot. I know some of the full tilts are based off race boots but this does not mean they are exactly alike. Freestyle boots are meant to absorb shock from rails, jumps, etc. Racing boots are meant to grip the hardpack and ice. Now this doesn't mean race boots don't absurd impact because good race race boots are but compared to a freestyle boot, the freestyle boot absorbs more.
 
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