Best California Resort in January and February

zachster104

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Looking to go to California to go skiing. Never been to any resorts there. Furthest west I've been is Colorado.

Which is the best resort during January and February?

Main considerations is all mountain terrain and good weather during that time of year.

I'm looking at either MLK weekend or Presidents day weekend. So far Mammoth seems to get the best ratings.

Thanks!
 
If you go to Tahoe you have several resorts. If you go to Mammoth you have Mammoth and June.

Normally I would say Squaw. I skied Squaw everyday for half a decade. I skied Mammoth 2-3 weekends a month with some longer trips in college. I am now an office dweller who skis Mammoth 2-3 weekends a month again, also with some longer trips.

If I had to choose between the two I would take Squaw. Mammoth has great terrain but it simply does not have the steeps of Squaw, either in terms of challenge or variety. Don't get me wrong, Mammoth has plenty of stuff I can't ski, but Squaw has much more, and better, terrain in terms of challenge. Squaw is also a more featured mountain, with more cornices and small to medium drops, as well as the huge cliffs.

Squaw also probably gets more snow, although that is debatable. Squaw measures at 8,200 feet, which is 2/3 of the way up the mountain. Mammoth measures at 9,000 feet which is 1/3 of the way up that mountain. Squaw gets more snow at 8,200 feet than Mammoth does at 9,000 feet. Overall they both get lots of snow. Where Mammoth has an advantage is in the fact that it is higher, sometimes Mammoth will get snow when Squaw gets rain. Overall I would call snow a wash, with maybe a slight advantage for Mammoth. It really is close though.

Both mountains get lots of wind, but Mammoth gets more. This is a blessing and a curse, you can get great windbuff turns weeks after a storm, which is good, but the wind can also turn a pow day on top into a windbuff day, which is bad. This happens at Squaw too, but less often. You probably get more pure bluebird pow days with good pow at Squaw than you do at Mammoth. I would also rather ski Squaw on a pow day because of the terrain quality, although I have heard the crowds are worse now than when I was there which dampens things a bit. Mammoth gets less bumped out than Squaw because of the wind, so sometimes better turns will be had at Mammoth.

Mammoth has a better park, although that does not matter to me. I believe Mammoth also has better backcountry, although I am really not qualified to judge.

Squaw has 360 degrees of sun exposure, which means something is usually wintery and something is usually slushy. This is a good thing. Mammoth has less sun exposure off the top. While this can be good, if things get slushy and freeze you can be pretty fucked until the next storm. This happens at Squaw too, but Squaw usually has at least something that will get slushy when this happens.

On the pow days when the top is closed I prefer Squaw. It has Red Dog and KT while Mammoth has only chairs 22 and 25. Don't get me wrong, those chairs have great terrain, it's just that Squaw is a better bet for days when it is storming. Once again, the crowds have supposedly gotten worse at Squaw so this might be a moot point.

In a bad year I would take Mammoth. In an average year or better I would take Squaw. Squaw is more of a crapshoot, but if it fires it is better than Mammoth.

One more thing to consider is that Alpine Meadows is right next to Squaw. It is one of the most underrated mountains anywhere, in terms of terrain in blows the doors off places like Vail and Park City. Alpine has great hike-to stuff, much like Squaw. Sugar Bowl is also accessible

Kirkwood is another sick place. It has sick terrain, as good or maybe even better than Mammoth although it is not quite as big, and it gets more snow than anywhere in California. It is out of the way, so it is tough to hit on a trip where you are staying in North Lake Tahoe, which is where Squaw and Alpine are located.

Hope this helps. Overall I really miss skiing Squaw. I did not really miss Mammoth when I lived in Tahoe, so take that for what it is worth. I have never been a Mammoth local, although I am there a lot and have put in several hundred days there.

If you can I would go in February. The base will be better. It could work for you either way though, you really just have to guess and hope.

For this year I would choose Mammoth. Mammoth got 60 inches at the top a couple of weeks ago and 30 inches maybe a week ago. The base is all set. The 60 inch storm was mostly rain at Squaw, so I think Mammoth is more of a safe bet for this year. That could certainly change though, things are still early.

I should add that Mammoth has great public transportation, if that matters.

Good luck. Obviously I love both places. You can have a great time wherever you go. Like I said before, Mammoth is more of a safe bet but if you get equal conditions I would choose Squaw. Tahoe has a variety of resorts if that matters to you. I will say that I would avoid Northstar and Heavenly if terrain is of high importance. Heavenly is okay, but it does not have the terrain of Mammoth/Squaw/Alpine/Kirkwood or even Sugar Bowl. If you stay in South Lake and have a car you can access Kirkwood and party in the casinos, although I would not waste my time partying on a ski trip.

Have fun. California has some incredible terrain and it gets lots of snow.
 
I should add one more thing: It is easier to fly into Tahoe. You can fly to Reno and rent a car or get a shuttle up to Tahoe. Mammoth is a sketchy airport, and the only other way to get there is to fly into LAX and drive, about 5 hours without traffic, or fly to Reno and drive from there which is something like 3.5 hours, I don't remember exactly. The 395 gets very high between Reno and Mammoth, so it can be sketchy if there is weather.
 
Ski sugar bowl and squaw for snow and terrain, sugar bowl for no crowds, then maybe a day at northstar and/or night skiing at boreal for your park fix
 
I had a blast skiing Kirkwood last year. About an hour from South Lake Tahoe I think. Tons of snow and so much to explore. I highly recommend it. Squaw was great too but there was something about Kirkwood that I liked more. It snowed the day I got to Tahoe and Kirkwood had about 10 inches more than any other Tahoe resort. I was finding untracked powder 5 days after the storm. If your in south lake definitely take a trip out there.
 
13770325:dan4060 said:
One more thing to consider is that Alpine Meadows is right next to Squaw. It is one of the most underrated mountains anywhere, in terms of terrain in blows the doors off places like Vail and Park City. Alpine has great hike-to stuff, much like Squaw. Sugar Bowl is also accessible

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excellent post. i highlighted just one point i have to reiterate: alpine meadows is right next to squaw (same pass) and is one of the most underrated places in the country
 
For sure go to Mammoth especially this season my man! They are getting absolutely pounded with snow as well as having some not bad terrain! My opinion Colorado is better, but I am very biased ;) Places to ski there, Chair 23 with wipeout and dropout chutes being unreal as well as traversing far right over to Paranoid flats and Kiwi flats pretty nice as well. The gondola also has some nice runs and open bowls to get at. If your feeling it hangman's hallow is a crazy sweet run. If the snow is fresh and good you can go to Chair 9. Anything on that side of the mountain however will suck and be all icy and trash if it didn't recently snow.

--Tear it up my man!
 
I just got back from Mammoth and it was pretty insane. 7 feet up top from this last storm. Tahoe got nuked even harder. Storms like this really set the base up, so if you do choose Mammoth just about everything will be in play. The last really big round of Sierra storms, with big being 5 feet plus, came in mid-December and was mostly rain at Squaw and snow at Mammoth. Because of this I would have said Mammoth for this season, but after this last storm I think either place will rock. There is another round of storms lined up to hit Mammoth and hopefully Tahoe too.
 
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