Best Boot for all around shredding
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sambuswell
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The one that fits...
shredasaurus
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seth morrison's maybe? idk
BeefiestExpert
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A mid flex full tilt boot wouldn't be so bad.
cheerio
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Thread after thread, people don't seem to catch on. The best boot for anything is the on ethat fits your feet. Don't buy boots because someone told you they were good or some pros ride them. Myself and so many others on this site have made the huge mistake of buying cool looking boots (i.e. full tilts) whithout them actually fitting. The season i had with those boots was extremely annoying and uncomfortable. Before buying, go see a boot fitter, it'll be worth it
cheerio
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13835692:iridepc said:
Finding a boot fitter that can make any boot fit any foot will be difficult. Yes it can be done with extreme patience and lots of money but at that point, is it really worth it? Or do you just get minor work done on a boot that actually fits you well in the first place?
For example, if everyone says '' Oh ya dude get the full tilt drop kicks, they're totally dope!'' but you have an extremely wide foot. Is it even worth trying to get that pair of narrow full tilts worked on to the point where your extremely wide foot fits in it? or do you just get something else in the first place that will work just as good for you because it fits you properly.
I don't mean to rant, I just think other people's opinion shouldn't influence your decision unless tell you ''don't get these, the buckles kept breaking'' Something that has to do with overall quality and not personal performance because it will vary from one person to another
_____alfredo____
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13835695:cheerio said:
honestly all I care about is swag
shredasaurus
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13835703:darticus_prime said:
fax
Casey
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13835695:cheerio said:
I think he just wanted some recommendations on where to start looking.
Personally, what's worked for me is to stick with what has worked in the past. I am on my 4th pair of Salomon boots. I went through two pairs of the 1080 boot back in the day and then the SPK Pros when I was more park focused, and now I have the Quest Pro 110 which is definitely like a low instep, more forward lean, different style of boot than I am used to but they are way more precise by comparison and better suited for what I am doing now. Liners pack out gradually over time so sometimes you dont realize how badly your boots are performing until you step into something new.
altasupport
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The one that fits best and has the right flex for your height/weight/ability. Most mainstream boots are comparably durable. If you want a 3 piece, I really prefer dalbellos but newer full tilts are fine too.
And as a boot fitter, comments like "any boot can be made to fit any foot" are kind of infuriating. Yes you can change a boot quite a bit, but if you have a 98 last foot and a 104 last boot, it's never going to perform as well. Same thing if you have a wide foot with a super narrow boot. We'll punch it, grind it, add foam, shave the zeppa board, add shims, cant the bottoms, work super hard to try and make the wrong boot work for your dumbass. A little bit of tweaking is expected, but it shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 stops in the shop and about 10 days of skiing before they're dialed. If you get the wrong boot you're going to be in and out of the shop all the time to the point where the boot fitter will hate you. Just get a boot that fits, all the bells and whistles on different products really don't add up to much.
And as a boot fitter, comments like "any boot can be made to fit any foot" are kind of infuriating. Yes you can change a boot quite a bit, but if you have a 98 last foot and a 104 last boot, it's never going to perform as well. Same thing if you have a wide foot with a super narrow boot. We'll punch it, grind it, add foam, shave the zeppa board, add shims, cant the bottoms, work super hard to try and make the wrong boot work for your dumbass. A little bit of tweaking is expected, but it shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 stops in the shop and about 10 days of skiing before they're dialed. If you get the wrong boot you're going to be in and out of the shop all the time to the point where the boot fitter will hate you. Just get a boot that fits, all the bells and whistles on different products really don't add up to much.
iridepc
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13835774:altasupport said:
As a bootfitter I'm sure you would run out of work pretty fast if it wasn't for that "dumbass" that comes to see you. I'm not an idiot obviously I understand these basic concepts. As stated before I wanted to see what boots hold up to a lot of abuse have a good medium stiffness.
altasupport
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13835780:iridepc said:
There's a big difference between someone who comes in to have something adjusted and someone who wants to take a boot and turn it into something completely different, but isn't willing to buy a new boot. Boot fitters aren't magicians. We make money off of selling the right boot with a proper foot bed without needing much adjustment. 40 dollar tweaks on a poorly fitted boot a dozen times over the course of a season only wastes labor costs and annoys everyone involved.
Perhaps I did come off as rude tho. Look for the right flex for you, 130 is stiff, 120 or 110 is average, and 100 or less is super soft. Its not a standardized scale, so a 130 in one boot might feel like a 120 in another. I ride dalbello kryptons with a 130 flex in everything, park or pow, and love them. I don't like the buckles or cables on old full tilts, they can break and it makes it really hard to punch extra space on the 5th metatarsal head. New full tilts are fine tho. It's nice when a boot comes stock with a dense foam intuition liner, but it's not a huge deal as long as the shell fit is right. Softer, cushier liners (like on old full tilts) will feel better out of the box but will pack out too much after 100 plus days. Again tho if the shell fit is good it doesn't matter. Just go to a boot fitter, a 2 piece boot will be just fine in the park, and a 3 piece will be fine in all mountain. Just get the shell fit right, and don't waste your boot fitters time by insisting on a certain brand or model if it's not a good fit.
freeskibum82
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Ive gone through this last year just to test out a whole array of boots in a similar range. I put about 10 days on each all in a 26.5
- Nordica Speedmachine 130 - waaaaay to wide for a performance skier. Not a 130 flex, more like a 120, too much heel space
- K2 Spyne 130 - fit well with the intuition that came with it. too much of a pain to put on and take off. too much play in hike hinge when in ski mode
- Rossi Attack 130 - 98 last, fit well, cold boot. A little heavy
- Atomic Hawk Ultra 120 - 98 last, fits very well. Slightly cold boot. easy to mold and very comfortable and boy are these puppies light. I dropped down to the 120 flex for a lil more flex when riding switch but it has in no way impacted skiing. It is just as stiff as the speedmachine 130. Note that they are a smaller shell than other manufacturers. My FKS barely adjusted enough for these without remounting. I ended up settled on these with a custom footbed.
**This post was edited on Sep 13th 2017 at 1:23:46pm
- Nordica Speedmachine 130 - waaaaay to wide for a performance skier. Not a 130 flex, more like a 120, too much heel space
- K2 Spyne 130 - fit well with the intuition that came with it. too much of a pain to put on and take off. too much play in hike hinge when in ski mode
- Rossi Attack 130 - 98 last, fit well, cold boot. A little heavy
- Atomic Hawk Ultra 120 - 98 last, fits very well. Slightly cold boot. easy to mold and very comfortable and boy are these puppies light. I dropped down to the 120 flex for a lil more flex when riding switch but it has in no way impacted skiing. It is just as stiff as the speedmachine 130. Note that they are a smaller shell than other manufacturers. My FKS barely adjusted enough for these without remounting. I ended up settled on these with a custom footbed.
**This post was edited on Sep 13th 2017 at 1:23:46pm
Lyricsylvan
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Full tilt classic
freeskibum82
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13836696:AGOF said:
Thats good that they work out for you. my foot measures 104 but i feel more comfortable in a 98 boot. For me the speedmachine was too wide in the heel area too and around the ankle. That was the problem, the last was good for the toe box but that translated to too much room in the entire boot. its a boot that is built really well and i liked the idea of everything can be changed with a wrench and no rivets used
r._ed
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Honestly, the one that fits. I prefer Full Tilts personally. They have a much more even flex pattern than most boots and interchangeable tongues which means you can put something soft in for those rail days and something a bit stiffer for charging big lines.
BTW this post belongs in "Gear Talk" not "Ski Gabber"
BTW this post belongs in "Gear Talk" not "Ski Gabber"
TheSmokinL
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I did boot fittings for some time.
Don't get a boot that fits janky and say "it's cool I'll just mold it" like most adults sadly do. Molding can be great for people with foot issues, but don't use it as an excuse.
It breaks down the liner faster.
Get a boot that fits the most and then if you have a hot spot, ride in them first, wear them in your house, whatever to break em in. Then go and get that spot molded out if it's killing you.
to clarify completely, molding can be a life saver for some people, but don't resort to it just because you NEED that cool boot. Like everyone already said, try on every boot then choose.
Don't get a boot that fits janky and say "it's cool I'll just mold it" like most adults sadly do. Molding can be great for people with foot issues, but don't use it as an excuse.
It breaks down the liner faster.
Get a boot that fits the most and then if you have a hot spot, ride in them first, wear them in your house, whatever to break em in. Then go and get that spot molded out if it's killing you.
to clarify completely, molding can be a life saver for some people, but don't resort to it just because you NEED that cool boot. Like everyone already said, try on every boot then choose.
